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Personal estimation for the year for Rapture of the Church
justthefacts replied to alaric_w's topic in General Discussion
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. Kind of says it all if you know what is being stated. Godbless JTF -
If a Pastor or Deacon of a Church assembly is feeling moments of depression or other demonic attacks, then it is highly recommended that they follow the guidelines set down by the Holy Spirit in the scriptures to combat these issues. A Pastor is responsible for the entire assembly and that which is taught/being taught as the truth of Gods word unto those which have been entrusted by the Holy Spirit to their keeping [keeping in Gods word]. If a Pastor is unable to fully minister unto their congregation, then its time they stepped down, for a Pastor is nothing without the comfort of the Holy Spirit to lead, guide and strengthen them in their daily tasks and no Pastor receiving the benefit of the Holy Spirit will be experiencing depression or any other demonic influence. How are they teaching their congregation to stand against the wales/demonic influences of the devil if they are unable to do so themselves? Sounds like an in-depth study of 1 and 2 Timothy are in order. Also sounds like the Church establishment needs to seek a new Pastor through the Holy Spirit instead of human intuition. Just my bid JTF
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Question about something jesus said
justthefacts replied to Frank Goad's topic in General Discussion
Good question Frank Goad. Those who enter paradise [heaven] have been cleansed of all unrighteousness through their washing by the blood of the lamb [Jesus Christ] and therefore are innocent. Children of this world are not accountable unto judgment of the law for in Gods view, they have not yet the ability to properly reason out or understand the merits of the law and therefore cannot rationally discern it. They are innocent [even under fault] for they do not seek to do wrong. This is why the connection by the Lord so that His brethren would know that they are righteous in the site of God the Father as He also views the little children of this world "Righteous". Godbless JTF -
"So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." Gandalf's response to Frodo. This my friend may be true for the average person passing through this world age, but not so for one of Gods children who have been commanded as to what their duties shall be while here. Read the bible instead of watching Hollywood movies and you shall come to understand this. Godbless JTF
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"Watchman" shâmar, shaw-mar'; a primitive root; properly, to hedge about (as with thorns), i.e. guard; generally, to protect, attend to, etc.:—beward, be circumspect, take heed (to self), keep(-er, self), mark, look narrowly, observe, preserve, regard, reserve, save (self), sure, (that lay) wait (for), watch(-man). Eze 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. When the Holy Father recognizes someone as "Son of Man", it represents that this person has received a special commision "anointing" from Him for the services that He specifies. The word "anoint" means to rub or apply such as applying a salve to the body. When refering to Gods chosen vessels for His work, it means to apply the Holy Spirit which gives them the ability to accomplish their tasks. The prophet Ezekial received the truth stright from the mouth of the Holy Spirit and was instructed to go unto the house of Israel [10 tribes] and warn them what thus saith the LORD concerning them and their ways in the hope that they would "Hear" and repent. All of Gods children in Christ have been commanded to walk in Ezekials foot steps in this latter generation and become watchmans of the truth for the sake of salvation. This commision has been given directly from the Lord Himself: Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. One cannot teach that which they do not know, so we are commanded to study the scriptures and meditate upon them in order to receive knowledge with instruction from the Lord. Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. No person can properly reason out the scriptures and that which they reveal without instruction from the Holy Spirit. Even the 12 disciples who were taught and instructed daily by the Lord Himself could not fully understand His teachings until He gave them the ability to do so: Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Luk 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, There are too many who because of sensual misleadings think they have received the commision from the Holy Spirit to Go Preach when they know nothing or very little of Gods truth. Many pulpits are manned by goat herders instead of shepherds who only lead Gods children astray because they have not been properly taught and therefore cannot teach themselves. In truth, the message from the Holy Spirit was to Go Prepare themselves for the task by studying and properly reasoning out the word of truth. We are all called to be watchmans, but God has never set anyone unto a task before they were properly prepared. Be careful my friends, for God has forewarned that if a person desires to pastor and teach His children for his own sensual desire to do so, then they may, but they shall be held accountable as that that which they teach, and if they lead their flock down the path of false teachings because they themselves are untaught, they shall stand accountable. Luk 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. GodBless JTF
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We may believe whatever we wish pertaining to the scriptures, for that is our God given right, but if we are found mistakenly on the wrong side of understanding when these things occur, then how are we know that which is taking place and what it means. I am not questioning anyone's beliefs. Only that we must study and always question ourselves, for our Lord commanded us to watch and how may we see if we are looking in the wrong direction. GodBless JTF
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THE TWO GREAT PROPHECIES OF "THE END OF THE AGE" (Luke 21 and Matt. 24. Mark 13.) The great prophecy recorded in Luke 21 is different both in time, place and subject from that recorded in Matt 24 and Mark 13. The one recorded in Luke was spoken "on one of those days, as He taught the people in the Temple" (Luke 20:1). For one note of time is in 21:1, "and He looked up and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the Treasury." So that He was still "in the Temple" when He uttered the prophecy recorded in Luke 21, for the whole conversation with the disciples follows without a break the Lord's commendation of the widow. But with regard to the prophecy recorded in Matt 24, we distinctly read (v. 1) "and Jesus went out and departed from the Temple ... and as He sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately" (v. 30). So in Mark 13:1, "He went out of the Temple ... and as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, over against the Temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked Him privately" (v. 3). So that we have two great prophecies. One (Luke) spoken in the Temple, the other (Matthew and Mark) spoken later upon the Mount of Olives. As parts of the first are repeated on the second occasion, we will give the leading points of the three in parallel columns, so that the object of each, and the difference between them, may be clearly seen. They both open with a summary of events which might have taken place in the lifetime and experience of those who heard the words :-- FROM THE CROSS ONWARDS. LUKE 21:8-9. MATT. 24:4-6 MARK 13:5-7 "Take heed that ye be not deceived for may shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by (i.e. immediately, so R.V.)." "Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in My name, saying I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of war see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet." "Take heed lest any man deceive you. For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And when ye shall hear of wars and rumors of war, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet." John refers to this first sign in his First Epistle (2:18); but had the nation repented at the proclamation by Peter in Acts 3:18-26, by the Twelve in the Land, by "them that heard Him" (Heb. 2:3), and by Paul in the Synagogues of the Dispersion, "all that the prophets had written" would have been fulfilled. LUKE 21:10, 11. MATT. 24:7, 8. MARK 13:8 "Nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom: and great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences, and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven." "Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows." Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows." Now, it will be observed in the Lord's discourse as recorded in Luke, that, instead of saying "these are the beginnings of sorrows", and going on with the account of them, He stops short; He goes back; He introduces a parenthesis detailing and describing events that would take place "BEFORE ALL THESE" beginnings of sorrows. He describes in v. 12, THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM. 12. But before all these, That is to say "BEFORE" the great tribulation, all that is recorded concerning Jerusalem in vv. 12-24 would take place. These are the closing words :-- 24. "And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Now, in the discourse recorded in Matt. 24, instead of going back to speak of the condition of Jerusalem before and until the beginning of the great Tribulation; having said "All these are the beginning of sorrows", He goes on to describe the sorrows, or birth-pangs of the Tribulation (Matt. 24:9-28. Mark 13:9-23), and He continues the prophecy concerning these sorrows up to the moment of His appearing in the clouds of heaven. While, in the discourse recorded in Luke 21, having gone back, and described what should take place "before all these" beginnings of sorrows, the Lord does not speak further of the great Tribulation, but takes it up at the end, and, as in Matthew and Mark, speaks concerning HIS COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN (of course, in Luke the words are slightly different from those in Matthew and Mark) :-- LUKE 21:25-27. MATT. 24:29, 30 MARK 13:24-26. "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth; for the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." "Immediately after the tribulation of those days (*1) shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken, and then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory." The first prophecy, in the Temple (Luke 21), was uttered in answer to two questions : (1) "When shall these things be?" and (2) "What sign shall there be when these things shall come to pass?" The answer to (1) is given in vv. 8-24, and the answer to (2) in vv. 25-28. The second prophecy, on the Mount of Olives (Matt. 24 and Mark 13), was uttered in answer to three distinct questions : (1) "When shall these things be?" (2) "What shall be the sign of Thy coming?" and (3) "And [what shall be the sign] of the end of the age?" The answer to (1) was given in Matt. 24:4-14. Mark 13:5-13. The answer to (2) was given in Matt. 24:15-27. Mark 13:14-23; and to (3) in Matt. 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27 (and in Luke 21:25-28). And then both prophecies conclude with the Parable of the Fig tree, and the final solemn assurance :-- "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall by no means pass, till all these things may be fulfilled" (Matt. 24:34. Mark 13:30. Luke 21:32.) This latter is the last of four equally impressive statements : Matt. 10:23; 16:28; 23:39; 24:34. Each of these consists of two clauses, the former of which contains the strongest negative that could possibly have been used; and should be rendered "by no means", or "in no wise", as it is often rendered elsewhere; while in the latter clause the verb is in the subjunctive mood with or without the Greek Particle "an", which (though it cannot be represented in translation) makes the clause hypothetical and dependent on some condition expressed or implied. This condition was, in each of these four passages, the repentance of the nation, in response to the appeal of "the other servants" of Matt. 22:4, as recorded in Acts 3:18-26 and elsewhere, culminating in Acts 28:17-29. The conclusion of both prophecies thus consists of an assured certainty, with a definite contingency, or uncertainty which was not fulfilled. Had the nation repented, then Jesus Christ would have been "sent", and "the restoration of all things which God had spoken by all His holy prophets since the world began" would have taken place, in accordance with God's Divine assurance given by Peter in Acts 3:18-26; but the condition of national repentance (Lev. 26:40-42; Hos. 14:1-4, &c.) was not fulfilled; hence that generation passed away; and both prophecies (with all the others) are now postponed. The first sign of all did (and will again) take place - the rising of the "many Antichrists", whereby John could say they knew that it was "the last hour- ie, the last generation" before "the end of that age" (1John 2:18). (*1) Leaving no space, therefore, for a millennium of peace between the great Tribulation and the appearance of the Lord in glory; proving that the second coming must be pre-millennial. (*2) In all three passages the verb is genetai = may arise, or may have come to pass: not pleroo = be entirely fulfilled or finished, as in Luke 21:24. This was so in both cases. This is not my work, but was presented by the biblical scholar E W Bullinger as #155 of the 198 appendixes of the King James bible. I do accept it as worthy of study by biblical students of Gods word [disciples] who are solely interested in finding truth above speculation. It is my hope through presenting this work unto this thread that many may find it helpful and an assistance unto the furtherance of their biblical knowledge of this difficult topic as well as other difficult areas of scripture which are hard to be understood. May God bless JTF
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This would be true if it were true. If you perceive me to be a fool for sounding the alarm as commanded by the Lord. Eze 33:7, Mat 24:42, then thank you. JTF
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A trumpet makes a distinct sound which is used greatly in the militaries for giving commands. The 7 trumps are commands which are given at certain intervals of time and by knowing what is taking place upon the earth at the time of their sounding as recorded in scripture, then you will know which one has sounded. Remember, the antichrist comes at the sixth trump. Be aware and be ready.
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Then why was it important unto the Lord [bridegroom] that His body [disciples, virgin] know of and understand the two hours He made reference too? The hour of temptation and the hour of His return. ????? If they were to be raptured out as you claim, then these two hours of reference would be meaningless unto them and they would have no reason to be concerned. The Lords warning would be in vain and God never does anything in vain. "Missmuffet" you surely have missed it.
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What time is it Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. There are two time periods approaching of which the Lord gave us warning: [1] The hour of temptation: Rev 3:10, [2] The hour of His return: Mar 13:34-37 Just how important is this unto the bride of Christ, His virgin? Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. At the time this was spoken by the Lord [as the son of man], no intity other than the Holy Father did know, but Jesus also stated: [1] Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. [2] Mar 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. Jesus stated this unto His disciples [His body, virgin] while teaching them concerning the course the world would go after His return to the Holy Father and the Church roll within it starting with them [disciples] and the generations to come leading up to His return. Notice the sturness of the warning in Mat 13:23, "Take ye Heed". I believe this was voiced in the very same sense as 11 Tim 2:15, for Jesus stated: "I have Foretold You all things". All means All, nothing left out, so it is emphesized by these two statements that all the answers are in the written word, but not in plan sight. If one is to learn the answers unto the Lords warnings concerning the two hours [hour of temptation and the hour of His return], then they must seek it through the study of His written word for that is the only way it can be obtained. 1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? 1Co 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. This is a promise from God, that if we are willing to do the work [earnestly study], then our efforts will be rewarded, however the keys to scriptural knowledge [referenced as the key of David, Isa 22:22, Rev 3:7] are not laying on the surface of the Bible for just anyone to obtain, but are there for the learning of those who believe and comitt themselves to the task of uncovering them as the Holy Spirit permitts. Rom 12:3, 11Cor 10:15, Eph 4:13 As it is written: 1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Flesh and blood reflects the natural man of this world [human intllect, spirit] whom God stated could not inherit His kingdom [obtain His knowledge], and only those unto whom it is given can receive it. Matt 13:11 Many claim to have an indepth knowledge of the scriptures by just casually reading the Bible from cover to cover. Im not saying they have not obtained some knowledge, but as king Saul who only stamped his feet a few times and not vigorously when commanded by God, they are not rewarded because of their casual responce unto His commandment. 11Tim 2:15, Mat 13:23 We can be lazy and allow our "Preachers" too do our thinking for us, but this is unacceptable unto God whom stated: you reap that which you sowe, and He is no respect of persons meaning: if His children under grace sowe the seeds of distruction, then they too shall reap it. This is the reason for the parable of the 10 virgins. Mat 25:1-12 Here the Lord is letting His body know [disciples-Church] that if they take His work [efforts] casual and do not apply themselves [will not plow the word for its truths], they will wind up on the wrong path [little knowledge, no understanding] and will be left out of the marriage supper of the Lamb. So now we come full crycle back to His warnings of the two hours pertaining to His return. Would it not be wise to apply ones self to the rightful study of His word using the study tools that He has supplied in this latter generation and learn the things that He has given for the rightful edification of the Church so that they may be acknowledged of these things and stand ready when they see them approaching, or should we be an unjust watchman not sounding the alarm unto the unknowing and unwise and allow them to be overtaken by the events of the end time. The hour of temptation and the hour of His return. It is written, so shouldnt you find out an then shout it from the mountain tops? Godbless JTF
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BeauJangles, I appreciate your candor, but yes, this as with all of my entries are of my own studies unless otherwise stated. Thanks and Godbless JTF
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Innocence is Bliss Act 17:29 - Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. Act 17:30 - And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: God is not material, but He is Spirit. He has a glorious celestial body as described in Revelations chapter: 1, but it is not as the human body of this world which has been condemned to perish. He has given this same type of celestial body unto His children the angels, but each have their own distinction one from another which is referred to as their glory. God the Father has His own distinction [glory] which He will not share with anyone [Isa 42:1]. In the book of beginnings [Genesis], God the Father [in His role as creator] said unto His children the angels, “Let Us make man in Our image”, and “Let Them” have dominium over the earth. In the book of Job 38:4-7 it is written that when the Father [in His role as creator] laid the foundation of the earth, the sons of God [angels] were there, so this gives credence to the fact that when God stated in Genesis chapter 1 “Let Us make Man in Our Image”, He was speaking unto His children, for Christ Himself stated: when you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Jhn 14:9, Jhn 1:1, Rev 19:13 Mat 1:23, for the word or God Himself passed through this world in a flesh body as indicated in the first chapter of John. It is therefore submitted that the sons of God have already and continue to pass through this world in flesh bodies for the purpose of grace and salvation. The apostle Paul stated in the books of Romans and Ephesians that there are those whom God selected even before the foundation of this world began to pass through this world at selected times for the purpose of fulfilling His work. It is therefore conceived that mankind are both a living soul with a spirit [intellect] and have both celestial and terrestrial bodies as described by the apostle Paul in 1 Cor 15. When this flesh body perishes, it returns to the dust from which it was taken for it is no longer needed [Gen 2:7, 3:19] , then the spiritual body along with the soul/spirit of the person returns to the Father from where it came. Ecc 12:6-7, Jhn 14:2 However, as the apostle Paul explains in 1Cor 15, only those who have repented and excepted Christ return to the Father with an immortal soul [eternal], but those who have not accepted Christ return in their spiritual bodies still having mortal souls which are subject unto the second death. Mat 10:28, Rev 20:6, Rom 2:6-7, 1Cor 15:53-54 Genesis 1:1 speaks of the beginning of all things, the age that was, which became extinct. Very little is written about this age throughout the scriptures, but the evidence is there that it existed and God did leave us the evidence in the earth itself [fossils] to verify this fact. Why this age became extinct is examined in the scriptures, but is a study for another time. What we learn and understand from Genesis chapter 1 is that the Spirit of God [creator] brought the first eternal age to an end [1:1] for in verse 1:2 it is revealed that the earth “Became” tohuw va bohuw, without form and void. The Hebrew is very specific and the language is “Hayah –became” “Tohuw –waste” and “Bohuw – emptiness, for God stated in the book of Isaiah that He created the earth full of life, not emptiness. Isa 45:18 In Genesis 1:3 through 1:25, we see the creation of this present world age of which God has made His children [angels] subjected too by placing them here in flesh bodies, each one after their own image. While in this present form, this natural existence, they have no prior knowledge of the world that was; for it is the purpose of this age that Gods children passing through it determine whether they will love Him or mammon. With their senses being dulled, the children are now prawned to the lesser things of a lesser existence, and due to their lack of knowledge, seek to reverence these things as their livelihood or caretaker causing them to form the conclusion that their terrestrial existence is the completeness of their world and thereby forbidding the acknowledgment of a celestial dimension of a higher existence, and denying the existence of the creator and God who brought them. Being subject unto this world due to the fleshly existence, it is easily seen why even after repentance and salvation through the Lord Jesus Christ occurs, Christians still relate that which is revealed in scripture in a literal sense and not properly dividing the text as to its spirituality thus causing many of them to develop a false sense of their heavenly Father and that which He has conveyed unto His children in His written word. God is not flesh and therefore no materialistic sense should be applied to Him as indicated by the apostle is taking place in Acts 17:29. No Christian should ever consider the physical assets and placement of this world as an indicator of acceptance by God for themselves or any person. The apostle Paul teaches in Rom 16:25, Eph 1:4-5, Ezek 1 that there are those whom God “Predestinated” before this world was created to come forth at certain times for the purpose of performing Gods desire in and upon this world so therefore they have a destiny to fulfill and their lives while here will be subject unto the Fathers purpose, but all others have free will of which the Father will not interfere and leaves it upon His children to learn of Him and His purpose of this world through the learning of His written word and to conform themselves accordingly standing ready to give an account and taking necessary action as needed to help others to conform. 2Tim 2:15, Mat 25:40-45 This is the great mystery that God kept hidden from mankind [as well as satan and his demons] until the time to reveal His plan of salvation for the whole world through His son Jesus Christ and His Church. [Preaching, 1Cor 1:21] Therefore, when you read scripture such as Mat 25:34-46, reason it not in a literal sense pertaining to the things of this world, but reason it in the spiritual sense as God looks upon His children as spirits and not flesh. Jesus stated that the poor would always be with us [speaking of the poor in the literal sense] and we should help them, but the poor in spirit who hunger for Gods truth, thirst for His righteousness, who are spiritually sick and lame not able to perform His work are the people we are to seek and nurture, for they are the children of God through the Lord Jesus Christ and our brethren. If you understand what this means [Not all who believe are of the body, but all can be lifted into the body], then you are a wise servant of the Lord and learned of His teachings, but if that expression doesn’t register with you, then maybe you should give attention unto this warning and exercise 11Tim 2:15 with a whole heart and turn from the fables of men. Eze 3:17 - Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. For the love of the brethren I speak and do not remain silent, for the time approaches as it is written. There is an old saying that is full of wisdom: [Make hay while it is day for the night cometh when no man can work]. Godbless JTF
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The Bondage of the end time In the book of Isaiah written unto Sameria and the book of Jerimaiah written unto Judah which constatutes the whole house of Isreal, God [Yahaveh] laid out His judgments concerning them at that time and in their future. [It world be helpful in learning the difference between the house of Israel [Sameria] and the house of Judah, and why God seperated them] Because of their continual rejection of Him [Yahaveh] and their desire to be as other nations which worship and practice rituals pertaining to pagan gods, He first sent Sameria into captivity and bondage across the Caucases mountains and scattered them throughout the earth into other nations and then latter He sent Judah into the capativity and bondage of the Philistines [modern day Irac] under King Nebercanezzer whom was a type of the antichrist who comes in the end time. The judgments handed down by God against Israel were not only for that era, but also a prophecy against them pertaining to the end generation at which time the true antichrist will be revealed who shall seduce the whole world into believing that he is Christ. Once again at the end time, Israel [both houses] will be captivated by false religions and put into subjection of the bondage of a false messiah because they are blind in spirit and refuse to accept the true Christ whom is Yahaveh's savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. It is necessary to note that each book written pertaining to this prophecy [Isaiah and Jerimiah] and not discluding the writtings of the Minor Prophets which give light and depth to this prophecy along with the Lord Jesus Christ Himself in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, gives creedence that not only will the physical house of Israel, but the spiritual house as well [Ekklesia] will enter into this bondage of the antichrist in the end time. Now the Lord's disciples today [students of Gods word] have [or should have] been taught that the book of Daniel reveals prophecy that the predestinated one [antichrist] will enter on to the scene "Peacefully and Prosperly" deceiving the whole world [Nations] that he is the long awaited christ who is the savior of the world. In the book of Revelations [the revealing], We are taught that in the end time there will be 4 controling spirits [powers, dyanisties] loosed from the river Euphrates which will influence the inhabitants of the earth. These are the spirits of Religion, Politics, Education, and Monatery, for these are the tools of the world leaders today in controling the people and influencing them as to the direction they wish to go. It is also taught in the revealing that there will be a first beast [world system] that will rise from the sea [nations] in the end time which will bring all the peoples of the earth into cohabitation and harmony, but this world system, aliance will be implimented by man and not able to deliver that which it is intended to do and will colaspe, disolve which is the deadly blow. During the aliance however, a one world religious belief, educational structure, political preference, and currency will be inacted. All nations and peoples will be subject to this order. It is believed by most biblical scholars that this one world order will be flawed as are most things implimented by mankind and not able to withstand the strain of rebellion by many. It is at tis time that the second beast will enter the scene and as written, will heal the deadly wound of the first beast [world order]. The second beast however is not earthly, but heavenly for he is from the spiritual realm and therefore has the power, knowledge lacking in mankind to resolve the issues that caused the deadly blow to the first beast and heal him. He will posses the answers to the worlds problems and all mankind will become healthy and prosperous. His abilities and doctrines will be accepted above all and the whole world will awhore after him as if he is God. All that he commands they will gladly do and any who oppose him will be dealt with. He will claim to be Christ and will demonstrate aswome knowledge and power before the people. Eventually he will be accepted and crowned as the king of the earth, the almighty God, the savior of the world. All who accept him and his doctrine [the mark of the beast] will be provided for and be at peace, but those who do not accept him will have to provide for themselves. This is the test of the end time for the true Church [hour of temptation], Gods election [Ekklesia] for they will not accept this mark, doctrine of the antichrist. They know from the study and learning of the scriptures that he is the false one to come as revealed in the 6th trump, 6th seal, and 6th vail as written in the book of Revelations along with 11Thes chapter 2 and many other places in scripture. His number is 666. The Lord taught in Matt 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 that the true Church [Ekklesia] will be delivered up before him, them [the synagouge, church of the antichrist, satan] and will be tested for a short time, but not a hair on their head will be troubled and the Holy Spirit will speak through them as recorded in the book of Joel. The Lord commanded that His followers were to watch and recognize these things as they begin to unfold and stand ready for the time was short leading up to His return. With most of what is being taught in the churches today as biblical truth, not many of Gods children have a prayer of a chance of knowing these things and standing ready as the Lord commanded, therefore being caught off guard and taken captive by the teachings of the false one. This is the main teachings of the books of Isaiah and Jerimaih and why God has given them for our learning and warning. In Jerimaiah chapter 4: God stated that His children are a little sottish [stupid] and that He destroyed the world once, did we think He would not do it again. This is no game, but many do not take it serious and believe things pertaining to scripture that are not true and leading them down the road of disaster. God stated in Jerimaih that a man who puts his trust in man [over Him] is a fool and deminstrates several examples in the teachings of Jerimiah pertaining to Israel [Spiritual Israel, Church] taking the word of self proclaimed prophets [preachers, teachers] over His messangers [the prophets and disciples],who brought us His letter unto us, His Holy word. Jesus warned that there seamed a way that is right unto a man, but in the end is disaster. Do not put your salvation soley in the techings of a peacher or teacher or any person, but study for yourself and learn as best you can, for only you will stand before the Lord in your behalf, not your preacher or teacher. You may not learn all that the Lord desires, but you will have dimonstrated your earnest effort in obedience unto Him and He will accept that as a job well done and take up your slack if, and when it is necessary. The time is approaching and the ear marks of time [prophecy] are aligning very rapidly if you know how to see them. This I write unto you out of love for the brethren and as a watchman sounding the alarm. Many will reject this warning and find fault with it and that is there God given right, but for all who wish to know, study now while there is still time. If you think the Lord will not close the door on you, then you are saddly mistaken. Once again, read Isaiah and Jerimiah and see if God did not close the door on them. I will not respond to any entries on this thread. This is given soley as a warning, not for discussion. God Bless JTF
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Many of you have posted some very interesting propositions for consideration an study. This is good for promoting and causing one to "Sometimes" stop and search their own reasonings of what the scriptures actually have to say. A while back in another forum, I had a sister in Christ relate to me that even though she did not agree with me on many issues of scripture, she was challenged by me to study even harder to establish unto herself her own beliefs. There, my goal was accomplished, for I will teach only the facts of scripture and if by doing so I cause even one to challenge themselves and actually search the scriptures for truth as instructed by the Holy Spirit, then I have accomplished a good thing whether they agree or not. One of the biggest handicaps of Gods children is tunnel vision. All Christians start out as babes in knowledge and wisdom and are in great need of proper supervision [Teaching and Guidance] from their elders. The apostle John devotes three Epistles to this truth. Eventually [If properly supervised], they grow into what John classified as [Young men] which means they have grown enough "Spiritually" that they can interact with others and not be easily overtaken [intellectually] by false teachings whether biblical or scientific. Then we have the Elders or those who have grown strong in the Spirit with knowledge and wisdom and who are able to withstand the wales of the devil [false teachings] who become the instructors and teachers of the Churches. The problem is, not all who claim to be Elders of Gods children are actually Gods children at all, but wolves in sheep's clothing, and then there are those young men who have received a little teaching and become overzealous in the flesh. Those who strike out following their own sensual misguidance because the Holy Spirit has not yet instructed them well enough in truth to become leaders or teachers in the instruction of others. They get overwhelmed in the flesh and suddenly see that great GP in the sky and are certain that the Holy Spirit is calling them out to Go Preach. Go preach "What"? They know little if anything, and the Holy Spirit has never sent anyone to do the work of salvation that wasn't properly taught and grounded in Gods truth. "Elders and not babes" To many establishments are being entertained today by "Babes" who stand behind the pulpits and claim to be Elders, "Preachers, teachers" of Gods word who do no more than muddle the waters of truth with their own sensual reasonings because the Holy Spirit has not sent them and is not standing with them. Why am I stating this? Be cautious my brethren, and look deeply into all that you believe to be true and those who you accept as your teachers [especially yourself] before closing the door of study and reasoning. As stated before: No man [person] knoweth anything of their own and are in need of being taught. The 198 appendixes of Dr. Bullinger will help many if they are willing to entertain them in this area of study. None of the writings of Dr. Bullinger are meant to be an absolute, but only a tool of help in studding our heavenly Fathers letter unto His children. Thanks for all the post and keep them coming. I find them interesting an even helpful in my own studies. Have a good day and God bless JTF
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It is only my intention to try and be of a help in the proper reasoning out of the things that our Heavenly Father has written unto His children for their edification. I myself have been given much knowledge over the years of study, but at the same time I realize as so did the patriarch Peter that there is still so much that I have not yet been given by the Holy Spirit, for no "Man" knoweth anything of himself and must be taught. I am not a biblical scholar nor do I claim to be one, but that such as has been given unto me I willfully share with all who will receive it as commanded by the Holy Spirit. I stated {Not everyone is a self made scholar of scripture} because there are those who think themselves as much which is evident in their manner of writing, but for the most part they only succeed in the muddling of the truth so that know one has a chance of learning anything. These are spoken of in the great book of Jude as well as other places in scripture, for in all their efforts and with much saying, they prophet nothing. Oh well JTF
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Thanks for all the replies and all are welcome unto their opinions pertaining to the teachings of the Holy Scriptures. It was only my intent to help enlighten some who may have not been instructed pertaining to the literal and figurative reasonings of scripture so that they may properly divide the word of truth as instructed by the Holy Spirit. As concerning the book of Revelations, unless the literal and figurative reasonings are properly divided, the understandings as they are being taught today in our assemblies are just fictional. That which is literal pertains to the earth or this natural existence and that which is figurative pertains to the heavenly or spiritual existence and there are scripture that pertains to both the literal and figurative at the same time. Not everyone is a self made scholar of scripture, and there are still those who could use a little help. We are called to both Learn" and "Teach" at the same time. Have a good day and God Bless JTF
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Hi, It is not my intention to undermine anyone's intellect with anything I may state here in this thread, but I do wish to address what I believe to be a complete failure in proper reasoning and understanding of many things written in scripture as being litterial when they are indeed figurative. Throughtout scripture, the Holy Spirit uses the things of this world which are literal things that we have to look upon as help in our reasonings of that which is of a spiritual nature. Since we have no knowledge or reasoning of the spiritual world and are in need of being taught, the Holy Spirit has used the things of this world that we can relate too as symbols, metaphours, edoms and like such to help us with properly reasoning a thing out. A diciple [student of Godfs word] needs to be aware of this and look for these things when studding the scriptures. Example: The locust army mentioned in Revelations. This is not a litterial army. but is addrerssed that way for Gods chiuldren to reason out that a force will be let loose upon the earth that will consume everything as a literal locust consumes everything in its path. Since the locust is figurative in the end time and not a literal creature, then that which it consumes is not a literal thing, so we must reason out that the substance which we need to survive and be healthy that is taken away by this locust army is spirtual and not literial. So what is this substance that Gods children need to survive and be healthy? Gods word, which is living food for all of Gods children and able to save them. The locust army "Spirit" will consume "cause the teaching of Gods truths to cease" by muddleing the waters so as to prevent the truth from being recognized. This is the famine of the end time as stated in the prophets: Amo 8:11 So be aware of these things and seek understanding from the Lord who gives freely unto those who seek Him. Hope this helps someone. God Bless JTF
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Signs in the heavens, the earth, and the sea?
justthefacts replied to luigi's topic in General Discussion
Sorry luigi, I am not trying to hijack your thread but I did need to address Still Alive's inquiry. If you wish to carry this any farther Still Alive, please start a new thread. God Bless JTF -
Signs in the heavens, the earth, and the sea?
justthefacts replied to luigi's topic in General Discussion
Thanks for the comments Still Alive, but a solar flare would devastate that area of the earth which according to scripture is our Lords most favorite place in His creation and where He will reside for eternity and could even cause the devastation of the echo system [nature] of the earth which would result in the death of all living things which are here. No this is not going to happen because it would directly contradict Gods promise unto the earth after the flood of Noah's time. What you must realizer is that God is a consuming fire which mostly stands for judgment and purification throughout the scriptures. Even the term "Lake of fire" is referring to His final judgment and is not a literal lake. The verse which you have quoted above will indeed take place at the Lords return, but it reflects this earth age and not the earth itself literally, for when the Lord returns, all the kingdoms of the earth [man and beast] become His kingdoms under His rule. The apostle Paul teaches in 1Cor chapter 15 concerning this and specifically states in 1Cor 15:52 that at the Lords return all things "Living" shall be changed. This is the ending of this age "Natural order" and the ushering in of the spiritual age or Millennium. Hope that helps Still Alive. Thanks and God Bless JTF -
Signs in the heavens, the earth, and the sea?
justthefacts replied to luigi's topic in General Discussion
Thanks for the comeback luigi. It is difficult to pry open the intellect of Gods children and pour in knowledge and wisdom when as seen in this thread there are so many who address these issues through their their own reasonings. " then our knowledge of these end time events should now be increasing." In actuality, this has been true ever since our Lord started His ministry and gathered the apostles. WE have so many today who stand in the pulpits and in the Sunday school classes whom are teaching the reasonings and understandings of men as biblical truths which have actually caused the waters of truth to become muddled and unclear. A vital part in understanding Gods word is unlocked through our knowledge of history as well as the scriptures, for there are too many things being taught today as a truth whose origins are shadowed in untruth. The Lord stated that as the end draws near, knowledge would increase, so yes luigi, it is time and past time that all of Gods children should be taught and know these things. You my friend seem to be looking at the material aspects of the Lords teachings, but you need to understand the spiritual implications as they pertain unto the Church even more. Thanks and God Bless JTF -
Signs in the heavens, the earth, and the sea?
justthefacts replied to luigi's topic in General Discussion
Please take note as pertaining to the earth in these times: Gen 8:21 - And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done. Gen 8:22 - While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease. Th earth is where Gods throne {Throne of David} is going to be for eternity. He will not allow mankind to destroy it. God Bless jtf -
Signs in the heavens, the earth, and the sea?
justthefacts replied to luigi's topic in General Discussion
Hello luigi, Interesting observation of our Lords reflection and warnings of the end times as recorded in the great book of Matthew chapter 24. Indeed the question was asked by the disciples: Mat 24:3 as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Our Lord begin to reveal and explain unto them all that shall take place upon the the earth and in the world of men up until His return. He had to go into much detail because He Himself had not yet been crusified and returned to the Heavenly Father, so the disciples who at this time had no idea of what laid ahead at Jerusalem could only listen in astonishment and possible bewilderment to the teachings of the Lord as He answered their inquiry. Yes, much of His teaching's in chapter 24 {as well as Mark chapter 13 and Luke chapter 21} have to do with the natural order as God created it to be in Genesis chapter 1 pertaining to the earth and mankind, but He is also teaching of the Spiritual events as well pertaining to the Church leading up to the coming of the antichrist and his reign over them. This is not to be overlooked and must be understood by His brethren if they are to withstand the times and events at the end. The Lord admonishes His diciples to be viglant and remain alert so as not to be overcome by the events of those days. Now that which we must recognize and realize today is that "We are" the very disciples the Lord is theaching in these three chapters {Matt 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21} upon whom all these things shall come. The end generation. Observing and knowing the signs as they occur upon the earth is important as you have pointed out, but knowing and recognizing that which shall come upon the Church durring thses time of testing before the return of the true Lord is imparitive. Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. The disciple {Watchman} must know what to watch for or their efforts are in vain. Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, {Give great thought to that statement} When it happens, it happens, but our Lord did not leave us without knowledge for as it is written: Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. However, He did give us the season {Harvest} and the events to watch for if we have eyes to see and ears to hear. 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness A good platform of study luigi. Thanks and God bless JTF