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I saw the point, to be perfect and that the Lord does give us strength, was not difficult to see, God cannot lie, men cannot tell the truth.

and I was answering how the Lord points out to us, men say one thing and do another, and your dictionary cant teach those things.. Matthew 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. They do not know because of having an unstable spirit and mind Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. 1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned James 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

There is no duel, the righteous are not silenced like the wicked, that would make no sense, in Job for example, it was the wrong speaking friends to hold their peace, not Job. If you do not feel edified, sorry about that, catch ya later

Only the wicked are silenced and have their mouths shut.. Isaiah 62:6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the Lord, keep not silence 1 Samuel 2:9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail. Titus 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy l ucre's sake. Psalm 31:18 Let the lying lips be put to silence; which speak grievous things proudly and contemptuously against the righteous. Psalm 94:17 Unless the Lord had been my help, my soul had almost dwelt in silence. Psalm 115:17 The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence. Ecclesiastes 3:7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; Matthew 22:34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. 1 Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

Never hold our peace.. Isaiah 62:6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the Lord, keep not silence, Proverbs 21:28 A false witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.29 A wicked man hardeneth his face: but as for the upright, he directeth his way. 2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Hearing His word is hearing to fear the Lord, not hearing His word, is not hearing to fear the Lord Luke 1:50 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. Luke 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? Acts 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. Acts 5:5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. Acts 5:11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things. Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 1 Corinthians 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 2 Corinthians 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter. Ephesians 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 1 Peter 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: 1 Peter 2:17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king. 1 Peter 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Revelation 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

Laying our life down, is different to taking our life. Samson gave His life to destroy the enemies of the Lord worshipping false gods. We see the testimony, Samson slew the Philistines at his death, not killing himself.. Judges 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life. For the ones who are sorrowful in this life, I always looked for them, to be friends with them, because sorrow is such sensitivity, but I know that these days there us sorrow with the Lord too, we desire to die, and death flees from us, because it is not our time, and being sorrowful and wanting to be away from this world are very natural.. 2 Corinthians 1:8 For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life:9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead: Psalm 69:29 But I am poor and sorrowful: let thy salvation, O God, set me up on high. 2 Corinthians 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things. Revelation 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

The scriptures were on the prvious page, can you not see what they say ? Luke 14:7 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready.18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused.19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused.20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come. Luke 14:25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

"We do need to be taught of the Spirit, to enter, more deeply than we have done, into what the Father has given us in His Son. If we do not, some difficulties will arise which will demand the knowledge of that which we have not got, and there will be weakness; there will be the consulting of flesh and blood (natural discernment of what we think instead of what He thinks—NC), instead of going forward in the strength of God, with the eye fixed upon the Lord Jesus." Then why are you teaching us, if we need to be taught of the Spirit.. Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. yes we are taught by Christ, not by cunning craftiness of men whereby they lie in wait to deceive, but we see that we put off the old man and become the new man, not a new birth baby at all, but a man, no need to grow, we re already a man of God, and growth is learning more,m but we put off the body of the sins immediately.. Ephesians 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Everybody fears, we fear man and death, then we fear God and damnation, and the devil has no fear, bu the Lord came in the Spirit of the fear of the Lord, and the desire of the righteous is only the Lord, that is why Christ had no life here and said follow me, and the rest of the word then is understood as.. Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Teaching forgiveness of sins, to do sins again and never cease, is not teaching truth, or doing truth, it is confessing being a liar, and saying trust me, but I cant stop lying. Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 2 Timothy 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Intergrity is not in human dictionaries, as integrity is the Spirit of truth.

The persecutions and tribulations we suffer for the sake of Christ, also show we are counted worthy of His Kingdom.. 2 Thessalonians 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: 5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: When the adversaries of the Lord, persecute us, the same as they persecuted the Lord, this is the token of their perdition, but to the ones who suffer for the sake of Christ, it is counted to them of salvation.. Philippians 1:28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God. 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; 30 Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me. Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. 39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul. "Hebrews was written to the Jews and they could fall away from grace and not enter into the promised Davidic earthly kingdom. This is not written directly to the church today in this dispensation." Hebrews was written to the Hebrews, and Apostle Paul is the Apostle to the Gentiles, not to the Jews, and when Apostle Paul says, "But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul." he is speaking to the Gentiles is proven: Galatians 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

When Jesus came to be the example for us to follow, we see the life He had, His friends thought he was mad, His brothers did not believe in Him, His neighbours tried to stone Him, as this is the experience in the world, it is rejected by all of it, and you cannot join them either, if you have this Spirit of Christ. His testimony was how wicked the world was, so they have no place to hide from their deceiving methods any longer, and in response to this, they killed Him. They had done the same to every prophet God had sent to Israel, murdered and persecuted, as we see, the message of the Lord is not easily accepted. Christ hasd nowhere to lay His head, no life at all while being the Messiah, and called the Apostles, who followed Him, also receiving the persecutions, rejections, and after they received the Spirit, boldly preached the word to the non receiving world until their deaths. This is to lose your life in this world for the Gospels sake, as we cannot have no life in this world, just because it turned out that way, and then Apostle Paul is the example for the ordinary people, to walk as He walked, following Christ, which was great persecutions, misery until they despaired even of life, and no certain dwelling places, in stripes hunger thirst and made as the filth of the world, had no lives, very much hated their lives in this world. Then Paul showed how grievous wolves would enter the flock after he was not there to expose them for the deceivers that they are, and they filled the world with their flattering, selfish sinful doctrines, which they say is the good and right way, but their time was over from the time they began, and now, at this ending o the world, they are exposed again, as was always meant to be. Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

AS for well said, the Lord said about that too: .1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. Ezekiel 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.32 And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not. Matthew 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. Talk is not love, it never was, love is if we can perceive in our heart what Christ did for us, then we do likewise, or we just talk on..

Yes, hating our life in this world means we would keep it, Ecclesiastes 2:17 Therefore I hated life; because the work that is wrought under the sun is grievous unto me: for all is vanity and vexation of spirit. John 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Matthew 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Mark 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it. Luke 9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. 1 Peter 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

Integrity is sincerity, cannot be found in dictionaries, not even in proverbs, it is found only in the sincerity that is in Christ, no malice, only truth, and to prove the sincerity of our love, is only the moment we know, the talking is not it, as this is all the world of so called teachers can do and, do nothing, as they keep their lives, and do not lay them down as Christ did which we perceive is the only truth and only love .1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. . 1 Corinthians 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 2 Corinthians 8:8 I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love. Ephesians 6:24 Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen. Titus 2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,

We see the trials of the Gospel, real trials, placed on trial, to their deaths, and this is what we are to follow, otherwise what trial would it be.. Matthew 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. 21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. 23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. 24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? 1 Corinthians 4:9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. 10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised. 11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; 12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: 13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day. 14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you. 15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. 2 Corinthians 1:7 And our hope of you is stedfast, knowing, that as ye are partakers of the sufferings, so shall ye be also of the consolation. 8 For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life: 9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead: 10 Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us; John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. 26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Anyone here, hate their life in this world ?

Justified by faith, and in the tribulations we glory as the love of God is shed into our hearts Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope: 5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. faith works through this love.. Galatians 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. Love works no ill to neighbour.. Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Justified by the blood of Christ, as we all fell short of the glory of God, and Christ is just, so He can justify us, in this same justice which is His love.. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. To believe in Jesus, is to believe we all fell short of the glory of God, now they fall short no more, and stop the falling, also only glorified if we suffer with Him.... Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Full assurance of understanding, and a good understanding have all these: Psalm 111:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever. Colossians 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Israel and all have to do the same, to not be a forgetful hearer, as told in the gospels, but be a doer of the word and work: James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. Children and heirs IF we suffer in the same sufferings of Christ, otherwise we receuve what we have alreadu instead.. Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. We have strength: Romans 15 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me. Romans 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 1 Corinthians 16:13 Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong. Saved by the blood, but we know the deception how men fail even despite the Spirit of grace.. Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. 39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

Here is the way as all foretold, transgressors will be taught the way of the Lord, and this is sinners being converted unto Him... Psalm 51:13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee. When the ears are dull of hearing, they are recorded as being unconverted( of course).. John 12:40 “He has blinded their eyes and He hardened their heart, so that they would not see with their eyes and perceive with their heart, and be converted and I heal them.” Acts 28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. Hebrews reveals these are the ones with ears dull of hearing, they are unconverted, neither born again, nor of the Spirit, and are carnal, which means flesh and they fulfil the lusts of the flesh.. Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. Hebrews 5:11 Concerning [g]him we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. 12 For though [h]by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food. 13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant. 14 But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil. First to know regarding conversion, is unless we be converted we cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven, we have never had anything to do with it, and that is because, the sinner needs to be converted from the error of their way, which means, the unconverted is neither healed, nor forgiven of their sins.. Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. This is fully confirmed here in 1 John 2:12-13, how these little children have their sins forgiven them, because they have known the Father, which means converted, and born of God and of the Spirit, no longer of the flesh, as God is in them, the Holy Spirit.. 1 John 2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake. 1 John 2:13 I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father. 1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Then there are these kind of little children, not the immature in Christ, as that is heresy, but those who are not in Christ at all children.. Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, 20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you. 1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. The beginning is never Spiritual immaturity, those scriptures do not exist, it is all fabricated, and without Spiritual understanding also, there is a difference between those who have need of milk, as they are failing the grace of God and cannot discern between god and evil, so are such as have need of milk as a baby, instead of beginning the path as told, laying aside all evil, and envies and malice, and then this is a sign of someone desiring the sincere milk of the word, as the word is always the sincere milk of the word.. 1 Peter 2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, 2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: 3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious. The opinion is proven as incorrect, the beginning is described here again, they lay aside all filthiness and naughtiness, to receive the meekness of the engrafted word, this is the sincere milk of the word, and if they are not a doer of the word, they are deceiving themselves and being deceived by those deceivers.. James 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. Continuing from the beginning, without stopping, being a doer of the WORK, otherwise if anyone does not bridle their tongue(these who they pretend are immature and children) then their religion is vain, as the religion has to be pure before the Farther which is to KEEP HIMSELF UNSPOTTED FROM THE WORLD James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. Isaiah 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.