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You might be on to something here Selah7...flesh it out for us? Tatwo...:)

Something interesting here... In Rev 12:17 "So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus." The word "rest" as in "the rest of her children" is from the Greek word "loipoi" G3062 and can be defined as "remaining or remnant." Whereas the word "woman" is from the Greek word "gune" G1135 meaning "wife or woman" Tatwo...:)

Could the "Son" or "Man-Child" be the remnant Body...and the "woman" a type of Israel? Think about it. Let's consider...what's the real importance of that passage...the "woman" or the "Son"...dare I say...that is "caught up" to God and His throne? Tatwo...:)

Can we consider maybe...in "type" only? Tatwo...:)

I must state that “looking for and/or expecting Him”…and understanding the rapture passages can be two different things, nonetheless this is an interesting question…and I'm sure you will find this an “interesting” answer to say the least. I must say that I interpret your questioning of my statements…in a way that kinda makes me think you really do not understand what I posted. My post…the one you responded to here…Really speaks to the fact that I feel that I have made a lifestyle out of seeking Him out. Therefore any insinuation that I am “not looking for Him, or expecting Him” could only reveal that my post was not understood, perhaps I could be clearer? If my assessment here is wrong…I’ll take your word for it…please forgive me, I’ll make the adjustment and overcome. A question “iamlamad”…did I say I “ignore” the rapture passages? I know them as well as you more than likely…I studied and sought the Lord for His understanding of these issues many years ago. I have learned them well…and have a spiritual understanding as to how these doctrines are to impact my spiritual existence…day to day, and…I am growing in Christ’s image and likeness….as attested to by Him and my family. As I see it…for those who are the “called and chosen” He’s already been found…His life is inside of me…what is the benefit of looking for that which you have already obtained? Crazy as it may sound to you and others…”no” I am not “expecting Him” at any moment. I have a prophetic understanding that I am presently working on at His behest…which is why I am on a forum called “Revelation 12:6 The Woman In The Wilderness Explained?” albeit, up to my neck in conversations about the “secret rapture.” If you want to give greater importance to “rapture” than I do…that is quite fine, get all of it that you can, may you be successful. I have been given the sense that the importance of who this woman from Rev. 12 is…is more imperative to me at this time…than the “secret rapture”…that, by all accounts…I would be a part of anyways…based upon my lifestyle in Christ. I am completely hidden with Christ in God at this time…He told me that, I am living it…this is an elementary doctrine. The real question as I see it is…now that we’re discussing this is…how is it that I *would not know* when His prophetic return is to occur…prior to its actual commencement if, I am still alive on the earth when He is revealed? That’s my faith…I am in preparations to live and die by it. Since when did the Lord Yahshua stop telling His Body what He is going to do before doing it, that’s always been His way??? His revelation was decided prior to creation…He knew the end from “before” the beginning. He has already told us when He is coming…we must pursue Him tirelessly…He digs that…then…soon enough He will appear in a way that most will be completely unaware of…I imagine the “woman” is a key to that. Tatwo…

Yes, I have heard you say this…I have heard many people proclaim this as well. This has only casually intrigued me here’s why. One of the first things I learned a long time ago was, that “heaven,” “kingdom of heaven” and the “Kingdom of God” are synonymous…The Lord of Glory Himself said the kingdom of God “is near you” and “it is within you.” I am referring to the “eternal heavens”…not the “created heavens” of course. I get it…when I was filled with His Holy Spirit….I became His Temple, His throne is established within me…His life’s essence, presence, love, power, and authority reside within me…in my spirit in the form of His Spirit. His kingly authority and priestly righteousness are at work in me right now…I am already there. As a result of these things…I am already in heaven…”The Light?” I am in His kingdom ruling and reigning on earth, learning each day how to allow Him more and more of me so I can fulfill His eternal desire with my life and death. As the result of my recorded belief immediately above…the whole “rapture” dogma is simply of no consequence to me; rather it is totally nonsensical as I see it, therefore no need to contend for it. Preference? Humm…this “rapture” you speak of…has some element of preference, or choice for the “Body of Christ?” So even though I am maturing in Christ’s image and likeness…learning, practicing, and offering an acceptable sacrifice of my life…on the “alter” in the “temple of God”…my belief or disbelief in such a thing as…when “I go to heaven” or what “I go through” while in the flesh on the earth…offers me some element of option in terms of timing? If I am a maturing child of God in the Body of Christ do I really need to concern myself with a “rapture” or “secret rapture?” If the raptures occur…aren’t I already included? Conversely, if for some reason these “raptures” do not occur…what would be the difference to me? I live and hope to die for Him…that’s my focus, His will for me is already established in eternity…and He is revealing it to me…that is His way…I trust in it. Will I get a chance, in whatever the conditions on earth are, to not love my life even when faced with death and in that…overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of my testimony, to prove my love for Him just as He did for His Father? I will…and that’s no secret “The Light!” So you can see why I have no concern for this “rapture” or this “70th week of Daniel” you speak of. As I see it…if these are issues for me to concern myself with…in the process of my letting Christ change the way I live, I'll be changed from the inside out. Readily recognizing what He wants from me, and I can quickly respond to it. God brings the best out of me, and develops a well-formed maturity in me. Tatwo...:)

Perhaps good sir...perhaps...forgive me...building relationships and the kingdom of God like this takes a special gift...I am working on that...peace truth7t7 Tatwo...:)

Light, What's all the commotion concerning a "rapture?" Is the rapture or secret rapture where the Body of Christ is taken from the earth to heaven? Maybe, maybe not...ultimately it makes no difference. The mild hostility here between you and truth7t7 has taken the forum from the woman in the wilderness...to a rapture. Can either of you explain to me what the woman in the wilderness is connected to a rapture? Tatwo...:)

With the way things are progressing globally...depending upon how you see the world around you today...billions of people are neck deep in "tribulation" (persecution, affliction, distress) now...more than ever and rapidly increasing. I am discerning a deep sense of fear in many of my outer court relationships...terror...fear, some have strangely died...unexpectedly, leaving families without key members...it distressing to be sure. Tatwo

Greetings iamlamad, While can agree with some of what you posted…there are parts that I would like to question a bit. For instance you state; “This use of "she" used in place of "woman" is referencing Mary, the Mother of Jesus.” I pick this particular one because this forum is a focus on the “woman” of Rev 12…her identity is very important and may not be what you think. Your view creates some confusion, here’s why. While theologians & historians never seem to be able to agree as to the exact date John composed the “Revelation of Jesus Christ”…their disagreement is a non-issue. However, the majority of them that I have looked at seem to agree that it was written after the physical birth, death and spiritual resurrection of Christ. Now let’s consider Rev. 1:1 the angel of the Lord speaking to John. “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon [quickly, swiftly, immediately] take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John,” NASB [Emphasis mine] So, “the things which must soon take place;” would begin to transpire now or very shortly…but up to that moment…they had not yet…remember, this is a number of years “after” the physical birth, death and spiritual resurrection of Christ. Now let’s consider Rev. 4:1, now it is the glorified Lord Himself speaking to John. “After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven, and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after [with, among, after] these things.” NASB [Emphasis mine] In the context of “After these things”…"these things” is surely understood as the “things” John was shown in Rev. 1:1 – 3:22? So the “things” that “must soon take place” (Rev. 1:1) look to occur immediately or quickly…they are then followed by what must take place after “these things.” (Rev. 4:1 – 22:21)? This is giving definition to what appears to be a sequence, or a linear progression in time. Again…it is being said that, ”these things” would transpire now or soon but had not yet…it seems prudent to recognize that this encounter with John takes place some number of years after the physical birth, death and spiritual resurrection of Christ. The book of Revelation is said to have been composed by John…and that…many years after Christ Yahshua’s birth and death. What do we do with the fact that it is the resurrected, glorified Christ that is telling John “things” that are yet to take place, that these are future “things” in His plan…that the Lord Himself states as having not yet occurred. I mean this is begging the question…why would the Lord need to reveal, in a prophetic vision of the “future - end of the age” to John, clearly cued for “future” fulfillment, completion and understanding …by pointing us to that which has already taken place? Was He really telling us, that which had already taken place, was going to come to pass again, perhaps? In any case, John was an apostle…he was there…he would have already understood that which he knew and lived through that had come to pass…things like Mary physically giving birth, the death and spiritual resurrection of Christ. Surely John did not see this as that, again? Primarily we should understand that the Lord told John that these things were to begin to take place soon perhaps starting now and roll out into the future unto the end of the age. Which leaves us with…if this prophetic “woman” is not Mary…then who is she? If this “woman” who gives birth to a “Son” in Rev. 12 is not Mary…then who is this “Son” that is caught away to God and His throne? A clue might be that “Israel” is a type of this woman, and the “Man-Child” is a type of Christ? My work here can overlay most of what you said in your post. Tatwo…:)

Josheb, The reality you have brought forth in this forum concerning the "Body of Christ" is a picture that is clear. Spiritually & prophetically it is understandable that many cannot understand your portrayal of an important “spiritual” reality. They don’t understand “Son” so they cannot understand “Father.” Some of those, maybe most…will see my statement and think at a very minimum…”ridiculous,” that’s ok…they simply cannot “see, hear or understand” that Christ is the way, the truth, and the life…and that, outside of a Spirit borne disclosure of such…they can never go to the Father. Josheb, God has blessed you…take great comfort in having increased revelation from “Christ, Head and Body” He will lead you into His truth, no need to argue competitively about something less than spiritual thought and spiritual word. Those who want to obsess about the Israel seen geographically today, those who want to seemingly confront others with a secret catching away, those who alter the concept of many seeds…other than the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent, those who enjoy squabbling over translations and the like …To them I say “have all you can get of that,” there’s plenty to go around it seems…and, it has to be that way. This is what our Lord is doing today according to His plan for all of creation. The departure from Christ that is occurring in our day is continuing as planned…as you can see…their message comes to nothing because they cannot receive the messenger genuinely. They bury themselves in their bibles all the time and they equate that with spirit life or eternal life, yet they themselves cannot receive it. The scriptures clearly reveal Christ…who is alive…but they are unwilling to receive from Him...the life they outwardly proclaim…so they contend nonsensically…as experts and law keepers…exactly as planned. They are the “woman”…whoa…remember Josheb…it’s not the “woman” who is exulted, it is what she was carrying that is robed in the glory of God as Christ. Tatwo…

The Light, Can you define "church" for me...so that I may understand your perspective more clearly? Tatwo...:)

Hi Light…:) I would agree with you here…in terms of Israel being the woman...in “type/shadow” only…she “carried” the “seed of promise”…Christ within her and she birthed Him, here on earth. We have seen this woman in “type” before…in Sarah, Mary, and there may be others…remember, that which is in “type/shadow” points toward its perfected completion. I sense that for the end of the age…this woman that appears in Rev. 12 will be just that “the” fulfillment of the previous “types/shadows” as prophesied by John. It is noteworthy that these women in type…Sarah, Israel, & Mary…give birth to the seed of promise. There is one more birthing to occur and it will be the completed perfection of God’s original desire…a Man in His Image and Likeness…made up of a many membered corporate body…here on earth. God installed creation “heaven and earth” within Himself…He put forth creation as He did so we could see His characteristics…He clothed Himself in humanity so we could experience Him. Tatwo...:)

Greetings, This is a bit of a response to this forum as a whole, not just truth7t7 though I have quoted him below. The reason I quoted him is that he started the forum and has stated his thoughts multiple times...and as such kinda set the tone for the “discussion.” truth7t7> The woman in Revelation 12:6 represents the "Remnant Church" seen in Roman's chapter 11, they will be in Israel's wilderness during the 1260 day tribulation, as Jerusalem is in desolation. truth7t7> The woman represents the "Remnant" Church as the OP clearly states, we disagree truth7t7> The woman represents the "Remnant Church" in the wilderness, the remnant of God's heritage truth7t7> Scripture clearly teaches that the woman/remnant as seen below will be in the wilderness of Carmel, Bashan, Gilead “So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.” Rev 12:17 Strongs · woman G1135 – Guné a woman, a woman, wife, my lady. · rest G3062 – Masculine plural of a derivative of leipo; remaining ones -- other, which remain, remnant, residue, rest. On this forum it has been stated that the woman is “Israel?” The woman is the “remnant church?” The woman is the “remnant?” maybe? it deserves a closer look to be sure. Perhaps a closer look at the usage of the word “rest” in Rev. 12:7…might reveal that John is referencing that which came from the woman ”the Son, Man-Child” as the remnant… perchance an item of note? Tatwo…

He has... Tatwo...:)

Greetings angels4u...I have some thoughts about your statement...if I may? “But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth.” Rev 12:16 NASB The idea that “God God will take care of her” when the scripture says “the earth helped the woman” is likely not the same thing. There are references to the meaning of earth that are (geographical/physical), but then there are references to a spiritual existence...that which is earthly, which is descriptive of being carnal; it is descriptive of being devilish or sensual. “To dwell in the earth” means to be an inhabitant of that world (Kosmos). For example, God has called us out of the “world” into the Kingdom, and when that concept of “world” relates to the carnal, the sensual, the devilish, to be earthly or to dwell in the earth is a reference to being in a condition that opposes God. I think that a deeper understanding of the “earth” from this passage might help us gain some insight about this “woman.” This opens up the possibility of a closer look at this “woman” or perhaps a deeper dive…if anyone really wants too. If all are sure of their position concerning this woman…I understand. Tatwo...:)

Nice to hear from you, Alive… Alive> "Hey, Tatwo. You have touched on one of my favorite nuggets and a lens by which I look at much." It is a powerful lens by which to observe and learn of Christ. In fact when one has understanding of what God’s initial/ultimate intention actually is…it makes His end of the age plan very clear? Alive> "He desires a family to express His Glory. To express Himself. Where I go from there is asking..so what is the audience." So, if I understand your question…”what is the audience?” At this point…I would say it’s all of creation… which is how it’s “shaking” out right now. Currently it would seem that we are hidden in God…that is significant…because…in the way we don’t really have a great deal of insight on Yahshua between the ages of 12 and 30…. I would say that “He” was hidden in God for that period of time for the purpose of His training… in regards to His parents, He was in “subjection to them” and yet, He kept increasing in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men during that time. After His baptism…this now “mature Son” was “birthed” into or “revealed” to creation and openly authenticated by “two witnesses” …the “Holy Spirit” like a dove descended upon Him…and the “Father” proclaimed… "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased." Perhaps it could be said that this “type/shadow” is a scenario that is playing out now with the body of Christ. He (Body) is hidden in God with Christ…for training in becoming a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. We know that creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. Additionally, we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. The book of Revelation tells us that there is going to be a “birth” or “revealing” of a “mature Son” at the end of the age…just saying. Tatwo...:)

Wow…I just read all of the posts in the “The Israel Of God Is The Church” there is so much being said. Often times things are said differently but mean the same thing…can be confusing. I truly have gained some light as a result of this forum to be sure. I take a simpler look at this subject from this perspective…“And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.” Gen 3:15 NASB I see two seeds…Christ and the beast…in the mind of God from the beginning…more can be said…that’s enough for now. “Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;” Gen 1:26a NASB His desire for creation is to put Himself on display in humanity…which He did in Christ the head of Christ the body. The Fathers desire is for all that He created to see His character and nature…to be incarnate…in His family. This is what He is presently doing…call it what you want. Tatwo

This is an initial response to AdHoc who posted a very eye opening post. Essentially he posted what looks like the outline for this topic, saved us all a lot of work, revealing his diligence. It was long, I have been working with it and would like to start a response. It will be in multiple posts…great stuff. The Lord wants us to understand this women…more importantly it’s the “Man-Child” or the “Son” that comes forth that is of real importance to the Lord…not the woman. AdHoc’s comments are in blue The Woman of Revelation 12 is New Jerusalem before she is perfected. Very likely, very likely…I think it could be seen as that…for a time, I’ll touch on that later. Let us see what attributes she has. 1. She is a "sign" thus not physical I agree, and remember a “sign” in the heavens can be seen as representational of the physical thing on the earth if you think about it, so her sign is in heaven and her reality...likely on the earth, let’s see if we don’t kick that up somewhere. 2. She is in heaven, but delivers her Man-Child on earth Amazing isn't it? Where is the location of heaven…today? Once the child is born He is caught up to “God and His throne”…exactly where is the throne of God…today? 3. She has already two other seeds - those who "keep the commandments of God", and those who "have the testimony of Jesus Christ" So you are telling us that… · Those who "keep the commandments of God" Israel? · Those who “have the testimony of Jesus Christ" Christ the body? Humm…ok, FWIW, my position on this at this time is more reflective of Paul’s words in Galatians in regards to the seed…”He does not say, "And to seeds," as referring to many, but rather to one, "And to your seed," that is, Christ.” I see “seed = Christ” as one or singular…this is also what is stated in Gen 3:15…there is a deeper meaning here, I feel like that is out of the scope of this discussion at this point. 4. She is thus a "Mother" There are likely a few types of this woman "mother" in the scripture. 5. She is clothed with the sun. A garment in parable is one's works (Rev.19:7-8). Christ is the "Sun of righteousness" (Mal.4:2) 6. She has the moon under her feet. She thus rules this light that only reflects the sun and which rules the night (Gen.1:16) 7. She has a crown of stars. A crown is for ruling On 5, 6, 7…you have shown powerful understanding and insight of prophetic symbolism, this gives a great picture and is very helpful in describing what she... “once” was. 8. She produces the Man-Child with pain 9. She produces the Man-Child at the end of the age because only 1260 days are left 10. She flees to a wilderness for these 1260 days 11. She is helped by the earth during these 1260 days - not God Wow…there is so much here… ”like birth pangs on a woman” … a “Man-Child” is born. All of this transpires on earth…fascinating. It’s a “Son” that’s a Man-Child, in other words a mature Son? Interesting… Number 11...this is a great observation and I would think that it figures into this picture in a big way as we move forward. Perhaps He is referenced as a “Man” in that upon His “birth,” He is revealed as full grown, and mature? And the reference to “Child” is in relationship to the idea that He is “new in His appearing” along with picture that He appears as the product of a time of “gestation/ preparation?” Tatwo...:)

Greetings Charlie...just some thoughts and questions. Nice thoughts to be sure. I do not know if you are aware but I have been studying Daniel exclusively and have no understanding of Revelation or the other books of the Scriptures. But threw Daniel I have learned so much about God’s Plan of Salvation. I was not aware of your journey through Daniel…I too have done “some” work in Daniel largely regarding the similarities there and in Revelation concerning the end of the age, I am sure you will continue to share what you learn…thank you. You mentioned the two witnesses are humans, are empowered by God, will be killed, resurrected, and more...including they are literal / physical in the world. Thinking out loud- God’s Word and the Messiah were and are both literal / physical. They were God’s own witnesses given to the Jews to be preached to the world - Jesus and the Scriptures were meant for the Jews not the ‘outer court (Gentiles). I tend to agree…with your immediately above sentence. Both were killed and resurrected and will have the power to destroy with fire (not as we are interpreting it - as two supernatural men) but at the end of time for those who have rejected Jesus and those who must be judged by His Word (10 commandments). Ok, so you are suggesting that those who have rejected Christ Yahshua are to be judged by the 10 commandments (Law)? I think I see how you are looking at this; I perceive that our ideas on the “two witnesses” differ…? The more I understand Daniel the more I believe I might see in Revelation- BUT ONLY at this time through these questions posted in this forum. Yes, when it comes to those elements of Daniel concerning the “end of the age” I have found them to not only support the same in Revelation, but they confirm the revealing of the prophecies of Christ throughout scripture as well. Daniel is (my findings) quite different than today’s accepted interpretations. In many ways you would not recognize my interpretations of Daniel to today’s accepted interpretations. I too have found such to be true in regards to the book of Revelation. If you read my abbreviated study as I post it…I do not think people recognize my interpretations of some things as well. Have you or are you going to share your interpretations of Daniel? I am interested. Mist important is the prophetic and eschatological importance in Daniel’s verses vs. the more ‘historical’ interpretations of today’s accepted commentaries, and the ‘timing’ of events in Daniel. I am not sure I follow completely Charlie…are you saying that “the more ‘historical’ interpretations of today’s accepted commentaries” are not in line with what you see in Daniel? The more I see these two depart from today’s accepted interpretations the more I THINK I see the possible differences in today’s interpretations in Revelation verses. So, as you work through Daniel…the Lord is revealing to you that “the prophetic and eschatological importance in Daniel’s verses” when lined up with today’s accepted interpretation of the same…is different…and that you suspect the same could be true for Revelation? But Revelation for me can not begin until I complete Daniel - now it is so interesting reading everyone’s thoughts and interpretations on Revelation. Charlie Thank you Charlie Tatwo…:)

Last Daze this is an intriguing post....I must comment. Last Daze said..."Yes, there will be a manifestation in the natural realm of the two witnesses. That's not the point." What if it is the point? Consider that Christ Yahshua did exactly that...made the invisible Father visible? The unseen to be seen in the natural? Last Daze said... "The unseen realm is more real than what is seen. It's just not as well understood." I completely agree...and I believe that is why in this the "end of the age" a more clear understanding is being exposed in..."The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show us?" Tatwo...:)

Part 6 in an abbreviated writing about the "two witnesses" The essence of what is in the two witnesses is that they operate from the authority of God’s throne with the anointing of the Holy Spirit, so they are Kings and Priests. That is the final witness. When that measure comes, there is nowhere for the unrighteous, and the unbelieving, and the lawless to hide, whether in the church or in the temple grounds or in the world. We will see the beast that ascends out of the abyss, because now he cannot operate behind the mask of false brethren. Because even the false brethren have been revealed, now he has to come, and there is a battle. We know Yahshua Himself was crucified…and there is a sense in which there is a crucifying and death. But three days later there is resurrection, and with it always comes the wrath of God. Upon the ascension of Yahshua to heaven, forty years later, those who killed Him experienced the destruction of their city. It is a parallel in Scripture. These are parables that are being disclosed in our time because these are the times. But if you know what is going to happen, and if what you know is going to happen is the victory that has been promised all along, then gird up your loins, as the Scripture would say. Having identified the spirit of the King and the Priest associated with the lampstands and with the oil, the light of the word and the Spirit being perfected in a people who are a royal priesthood, we then begin to see that for a period of time (and during the time that they are opposed)…those forty-two months or this time, times, and half a time…they have enormous power and demonstrate that great authority and power upon the earth in the midst of that opposition. Get ready, because this was why you were created, and it is why you were assigned to this time in history. God determined when you should live; God determined where you should live. And the greater the oppression and opposition, the greater the opportunity for your face to reflect the glory of Christ who is your life and who is appearing as Himself in the fullness of what was meant to be brought forth when the age was consumed, the fullness of that. Tatwo…:)

Charlie744...there is a connection to the law and prophets...perhaps this can bring "some" clarity? The two witnesses are humans on the earth at that specified time. What really seems to be coming through is, because of the authentication by the Staff like Rod (Christ the Head)…they are empowered (the temple of God on earth) “supernaturally” if you will. In other words, what has always been typical in eternity, the Spirit…is made manifest on the earth via these human witnesses (Christ the Body). These have been measured as the naos of God, in the 11th chapter of the Book of Revelation. They have been measured and presented as the likeness of Christ, and they are adorned with the Royal Priesthood. They function as kings and priests in the fashion that summarizes the law, in the fashion that summarizes the prophets. They are like Christ. And as He was killed, so they are killed by this beast that came up out of the abyss. But then, on the third day, three-and-a-half days later, they are resurrected and called to heaven. Daniel sees it ahead of time in the very same prophetic reference that says that the saints will possess the Kingdom. It would appear that the Lord is showing us that the two witnesses are likely to be the Body of Christ on the earth. They have been qualified and commissioned to operate in the “character or witness” of the Royal Priesthood, Melchizedek – “King & Priest” on the throne of God. The two witnesses are the King & Priest attributes that typifies Christ and His Body. Tatwo

Part 5 in an abbreviated writing about the "two witnesses" And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner (Revelation 11:5). It is significant to note that fire will come out of their mouths. What normally comes out of a person’s mouth? It’s words…so the words of God that will come out from the two witnesses will be that which scorches the earth. In short, it will represent a return to the uncompromised truth that God had been working on and developing hidden in Himself throughout the ages. The reason it is described as two witnesses and words coming out of their mouths is, that it is the picture of the incarnate, where the heavenly dwells in the natural, and when it comes out, it has the effect of the heavenly in the natural. That is why, for example, that it devours their enemies. I do not see two individuals here. I see the witness of the King and the Priest, because that can only come about in the restored temple of the Lord which glorifies Yahshua, or Joshua, in the Old Testament, who is Christ in the New Testament. It is that the two witnesses represent the perfect incarnation, in a body of people, of the Christ Yahshua, the High Priest in the order of Melchizedek. This is about Yahshua as the witness, but we are not minor priests under the high priest; we are the body of the High Priest. We are not minor kings under the King of kings; we are the body of the King. The world will have to deal with us, the same as they had to deal with Christ. That is why the parallels between Christ and His ministry for forty-two months, opposed by unbelievers among the Jews…and us. We are the naos of God, certified to measure up to the Rod that came out of the stump of Jesse, approved as the naos of God, approved as those under the altar of God, approved as divine worshipers, coming forth at the time when the House of God is tread upon by Gentiles, by unbelievers in the House of God. It is the beginning of the separation that forces the disclosure of the harlot in chapter 17. This is the beginning of that process. Tatwo...:)

Nicely put Marilyn C. Tatwo...:)