Jump to content

LiveWire

Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service
  • Posts

    392
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by LiveWire

  1. How about we begin with, God, always does that which is His perfect Will and Purpose?
  2. You said to examine Verses 16, 19, 21 and I posted them for you.
  3. Daniel 4: חָזֵ֥ה הֲוֵ֛ית בְּחֶזְוֵ֥י רֵאשִׁ֖י עַֽל־מִשְׁכְּבִ֑י וַאֲלוּ֙ עִ֣יר וְקַדִּ֔ישׁ מִן־שְׁמַיָּ֖א נָחִֽת׃ In the vision of my mind in bed, I looked and saw a holy Watcher coming down from heaven. בִּגְזֵרַ֤ת עִירִין֙ פִּתְגָמָ֔א וּמֵאמַ֥ר קַדִּישִׁ֖ין שְׁאֵֽלְתָ֑א עַד־דִּבְרַ֡ת דִּ֣י יִנְדְּע֣וּן חַ֠יַּיָּ֠א דִּֽי־שַׁלִּ֨יט (עליא) [עִלָּאָ֜ה] בְּמַלְכ֣וּת (אנושא) [אֲנָשָׁ֗א] וּלְמַן־דִּ֤י יִצְבֵּא֙ יִתְּנִנַּ֔הּ וּשְׁפַ֥ל אֲנָשִׁ֖ים יְקִ֥ים (עליה) [עֲלַֽהּ]׃ This sentence is decreed by the Watchers; This verdict is commanded by the Holy Ones So that all creatures may know That the Most High is sovereign over the realm of man, And He gives it to whom He wishes And He may set over it even the lowest of men.’ וְדִ֣י חֲזָ֣ה מַלְכָּ֡א עִ֣יר וְקַדִּ֣ישׁ נָחִ֣ת ׀ מִן־שְׁמַיָּ֡א וְאָמַר֩ גֹּ֨דּוּ אִֽילָנָ֜א וְחַבְּל֗וּהִי בְּרַ֨ם עִקַּ֤ר שׇׁרְשׁ֙וֹהִי֙ בְּאַרְעָ֣א שְׁבֻ֔קוּ וּבֶאֱסוּר֙ דִּֽי־פַרְזֶ֣ל וּנְחָ֔שׁ בְּדִתְאָ֖א דִּ֣י בָרָ֑א וּבְטַ֧ל שְׁמַיָּ֣א יִצְטַבַּ֗ע וְעִם־חֵיוַ֤ת בָּרָא֙ חֲלָקֵ֔הּ עַ֛ד דִּֽי־שִׁבְעָ֥ה עִדָּנִ֖ין יַחְלְפ֥וּן עֲלֽוֹהִי׃ The holy Watcher whom the king saw descend from heaven and say, Hew down the tree and destroy it, But leave the stump with its roots in the ground. In fetters of iron and bronze In the grass of the field, Let him be drenched with the dew of heaven, And share the lot of the beasts of the field Until seven seasons pass over him—
  4. הַזְכִּ֣ירוּ לַגּוֹיִ֗ם הִנֵּה֙ הַשְׁמִ֣יעוּ עַל־יְרוּשָׁלַ֔͏ִם נֹצְרִ֥ים בָּאִ֖ים מֵאֶ֣רֶץ הַמֶּרְחָ֑ק וַֽיִּתְּנ֛וּ עַל־עָרֵ֥י יְהוּדָ֖ה קוֹלָֽם׃ Tell the nations: Here they are! Announce concerning Jerusalem: Watchers are coming from a distant land, They raise their voices against the towns of Judah. ^ Watchers, is an Enochian term they used between periods of king Solomon's Temple and 2nd Temple referring to Deuteronomy and Psalms and Genesis 6 speaking about ANGELS that rebelled against God. מֵעַ֣י ׀ מֵעַ֨י ׀ (אחולה) [אֹחִ֜ילָה] קִיר֥וֹת לִבִּ֛י הֹמֶה־לִּ֥י לִבִּ֖י לֹ֣א אַחֲרִ֑שׁ כִּ֣י ק֤וֹל שׁוֹפָר֙ (שמעתי) [שָׁמַ֣עַתְּ] נַפְשִׁ֔י תְּרוּעַ֖ת מִלְחָמָֽה׃ Oh, my suffering, my suffering! How I writhe! Oh, the walls of my heart! My heart moans within me, I cannot be silent; For I hear the blare of horns, Alarms of war. ^ Still concern over the rebellion of the Watchers. עַד־מָתַ֖י אֶרְאֶה־נֵּ֑ס אֶשְׁמְעָ֖ה ק֥וֹל שׁוֹפָֽר׃ {פ} How long must I see standards And hear the blare of horns? ^ still nothing about a human army whatsoever. The term “Watchers,” meaning “wakeful ones” (Aramaic ןיריע), glossed as “sons of Heaven” in 1 En. 6:2, refers to a class of angels, mentioned also in the Bible in Dan. 4:10, 14, 20.¹ Even within the Book of the Watchers it is used of the holy angels in heaven (e.g., 12:2-3, 20:1).
  5. you seriously have to twist Verse 6 something horrific to see what you see! A LION, and you turn it into an Army. the LION of Judah is Who destroyed the Earth in Jeremiah 4, the LORD!
  6. This is real spiritual warfare. People better be prayed up and praying against this. If this goes into Law, we will be holding House/Home Church Meetings again like the New Testament.
  7. 23 I saw the earth, and behold, it was void and unformed, and the heavens, and they had no light. כגרָאִ֙יתִי֙ אֶת־הָאָ֔רֶץ וְהִנֵּה־תֹ֖הוּ וָבֹ֑הוּ וְאֶל־הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ין אוֹרָֽם: 24 I saw the mountains, and behold, they were quaking, and all the hills moved to and fro. כדרָאִ֙יתִי֙ הֶֽהָרִ֔ים וְהִנֵּ֖ה רֹֽעֲשִׁ֑ים וְכָל־הַגְּבָע֖וֹת הִתְקַלְקָֽלוּ: 25 I saw, and behold, there were no people, and all the fowl of the heavens wandered away. כהרָאִ֕יתִי וְהִנֵּ֖ה אֵ֣ין הָֽאָדָ֑ם וְכָל־ע֥וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם נָדָֽדוּ: 26 I saw, and behold, the fruitful field became a desert, and all its cities were destroyed because of the Lord, because of His fierce anger. Read Verse 26 S-L-O-W-L-Y I saw, and behold, the fruitful field became a desert, and all its cities were destroyed because of the Lord, because of His fierce anger. Do not forget Verse 4: 4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord and remove the foreskins of your heart, O people of Judah and dwellers of Jerusalem, lest My anger go forth and burn with none to quench it because of the evil of your deeds. דהִמֹּ֣לוּ לַֽיהֹוָ֗ה וְהָסִ֙רוּ֙ עָרְל֣וֹת לְבַבְכֶ֔ם אִ֥ישׁ יְהוּדָ֖ה וְיֹֽשְׁבֵ֣י יְרֽוּשָׁלִָ֑ם פֶּן־תֵּצֵ֨א כָאֵ֜שׁ חֲמָתִ֗י וּבָֽעֲרָה֙ וְאֵ֣ין מְכַבֶּ֔ה מִפְּנֵ֖י רֹ֥עַ מַֽעַלְלֵיכֶֽם: Literally NOWHERE, is an opposing Army mentioned here but Only God doing the destruction. Besides, with Horse and Chariots and spears, swords, bows, hammers, shields...NO WAY IMPOSSIBLE that combination "Horse and Chariots and spears, swords, bows, hammers, shields" could do to the Earth and HEAVENS that Verse 23 speaks about: 23 I saw the earth, and behold, it was void and unformed, and the heavens, and they had no light. כגרָאִ֙יתִי֙ אֶת־הָאָ֔רֶץ וְהִנֵּה־תֹ֖הוּ וָבֹ֑הוּ וְאֶל־הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ין אוֹרָֽם:
  8. All of those Bible Versions have been connected to Septuagint and Mazoretic Text, which are severely incorrect. You're basically calling the Hebrew People and Moses liars, and worse yet, God, Who gave them what to WRITE!
  9. It was spoken from nothing Verse 2 shows Earth exists even in how it is described. That is existing. the Verses that follow shows us God then creating the Light, then Sun and Moon. How can the earth be a Wasteland? Once again, when you use faulty Text, you get a faulty answer. בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ׃ When God began to create heaven and earth— ^ You act like Verse 1 says a completed Earth and heaven, but factually, it's just the Title of Chapter One called : When God began to create heaven and earth And then God begins in Verse 2 doing what Verse 1 suggests.
  10. Thu Jul 6, 2023 - 2:50 pm EDT (LifeSiteNews) — A newly published United Nations report suggests that religious rights must be subordinated to the supposed rights of the LGBT agenda and its adherents. The report, published in June by the United Nations (UN) and written by Costa Rican lawyer Victor Madrigal-Borloz, outlines the government’s role in discipling religious institutions which refuse to push LGBT ideology. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-un-report-suggests-lgbt-ideology-should-take-precedence-over-religious-freedom/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa
  11. Thu Jul 6, 2023 - 2:50 pm EDT (LifeSiteNews) — A newly published United Nations report suggests that religious rights must be subordinated to the supposed rights of the LGBT agenda and its adherents. The report, published in June by the United Nations (UN) and written by Costa Rican lawyer Victor Madrigal-Borloz, outlines the government’s role in discipling religious institutions which refuse to push LGBT ideology. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-un-report-suggests-lgbt-ideology-should-take-precedence-over-religious-freedom/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa
  12. The important Key here is knowing that the Earth (Unformed and Void) [existed] ""first"" before the Stars and Sun and Moon. So, trying to properly calculate the Age of the Universe is only going to bring confusion and inaccurate results. This is why I introduced the Microwave Spectrum that Science attempts to present as some sort of proof. There never was a Big Bang, earth existed and God then Created the Universe around it. Theoretically speaking, the Earth, should be at the center point of the Universe. But even so, let's say the Universe is 10 trillion years old. The Earth would be Older! Could be a better reason, aside from Sin, to look Aged. None of what you have offered is valid since you're using a Septuagint mixed with Mazoretic Text. Here's the True Hebrew: וְהָאָ֗רֶץ הָיְתָ֥ה תֹ֙הוּ֙ וָבֹ֔הוּ וְחֹ֖שֶׁךְ עַל־פְּנֵ֣י תְה֑וֹם וְר֣וּחַ אֱלֹהִ֔ים מְרַחֶ֖פֶת עַל־פְּנֵ֥י הַמָּֽיִם׃ the earth being unformed and void, with darkness over the surface of the deep and a wind from God sweeping over the water— Unformed and Void as I said!
  13. I actually researched it. There are some Churches that require 1 year at 10% tithe, next year 20%, and 3rd year 30% + organizations like Assemblies of God, some Southern Baptist, mainly Methodist and like Churches do require to be a Tithe Payer to participate in Church Voting and Board Membership. How did I miss this? Resurrecting the LAW?
  14. I believe in the past 300 years of observable Science, we are looking at Earth tainted by Sin. Peter tells us the Earth will be purged with fire and purified of Sin. I will bet when Earth is purified, it will look like the Age of when it was Created. And I bet with 6,000 years of continual sin upon sin upon abomination, the Earth, looks extremely Aged. the easiest one is counting back days, with Verses that end with "And there was evening and there was morning." True, but it's same usage for Jeremiah 4. People have created a Gap Theory using Jeremiah 4 to say Genesis 1:1 is a Completed Creation with Earth, 1:2 is after the Reason for the Gap Theory, Lucifer's Fall/Flood...and why Verse 2 begins with Chaotic unformed Earth covered with water.
  15. What a joke! Was the prince of the kingdom of Persia, who held the Angel Gabriel, Captive, human?
  16. Shocked. I just walked out and shook the dust off my feet. Are Churches where you are at segregating between who pays Tithes and who doesn't?
  17. 2 sides to this thought. The one in your post, and a second one based upon our responsibility. I was at a Church Service a couple weeks ago, and at the ending the Pastor said, all Tithe payers, you know who you are, stay, there is something that needs a vote on. I don't attend there, just visiting, but watched as people, evidently, not Tithe Payers, leave. I stood up and said in a loud voice, when did the House of God become a Whore House? When did God separate people in His body based upon who pays Tithes? Where is there an example of anyone paying Tithes in the New Testament? I then ended with, You are Satan, the Lord Rebuke You! ***When did Protestants create the Rule that Tithe Payers are the true Church Member and only ones who are able to Vote?***
  18. There is "NO" apparent age, until You and Others make One Up! There is however, facts! And those stem off when Adam was Created and then going backwards. But your Chaotic Earth is Jeremiah, and you are using Jeremiah to create a Gap.
  19. NOWHERE, does it say the king of Tyre is human. God said, he was in the Garden. The fact you cannot discern this, is why, I don't think you know what you're doing by trying to mesh man made Science to God's Miraculous Creation.
  20. English translations are generally Septuagint or Mazoretic.
  21. You a Gapper? Gap Theory? Basically, that is what your post reads like.
  22. God, for some reason one day goes to Ezekiel and tells him to go see the king of Tyre. And God also gave Ezekiel the words to tell the king. One of those things was : 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God But You, say the king of Tyre wasn't in the Garden. So, are you saying God is stupid and doesn't know what He sent Ezekiel to say? God said to Ezekiel tell king of tyre : 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God Why would I trust you over God?
  23. So what? Jesus sent an Angel and Moses sat with God. Who cares, it happened, and we have the Books of Revelation and Genesis because of it.
  24. I've been working on a Concept concerning when Moses was shown God's BACKSIDE, but not His FACE: Exodus 33 21 And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. I believe this is God taking Moses back to the creation, what God has already accomplished. God was not willing to show his face, the future of what he would do for that nation of Israel. Earlier, Moses was pleading with the Lord to show him what would become of his people and that God would give them grace as they went forth. The next Verses show God won't show Moses the future, only the Past: God won't show Moses the future only says He will be there with them: 13 Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found grace in thy sight, shew me now thy way, that I may know thee, that I may find grace in thy sight: and consider that this nation is thy people. 14 And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest. 15 And he said unto him, If thy presence go not with me, carry us not up hence. 16 For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? is it not in that thou goest with us? so shall we be separated, I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth. In this Concept, Moses is shown by God, the Creation, which Moses would later write down as he formatted the Torah. Just an idea I have been thinking about. I believe this idea comes from God and why I am sharing it. Here's my issue: Moses, second in line to Pharaoh, so he was brilliant, mathematical, educated, taught to be a leader of the Egyptian People as a god. When we study the Pharaoh's, they were more brilliant than the likes of Plato, Socrates, many others. So Moses, would have been very keen on what he heard, was shown by God, and would have been able to write anything he saw down, including Evolution, had it factually existed. Acts 7:22 And Moses was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and he was mighty in his words and deeds. You and those who think you have a Scientific Clue, probably aren't intelligent enough to loosen Moses' Sandals. I have every confidence Moses wrote Genesis 1 as it specifically happened and it happened within 6 DAYS!
  25. God blinds the Jews to not accept Christ and you think God does not do anything like deception? 19 And Micaiah said, “Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing beside him on his right hand and on his left; 20 and the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ And one said one thing, and another said another. 21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord, saying, ‘I will entice him.’ 22 And the Lord said to him, ‘By what means?’ And he said, ‘I will go out, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And he said, ‘You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do so.’ 23 Now therefore behold, the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; the Lord has declared disaster for you.” Seeing that God will ENTICE [DECEIVE, MISLEAD, LIE TO] and will put a Lying Spirit so You will believe a lie...tells me, You don't know your God at all!
×
×
  • Create New...