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That way literally on doors, gates, houses, is when it is not written in the heart, not by the Holy Ghost/not by belief in the rising from that dead to life, of the Lord Jesus Christ, not written with ink, not in tables of stone, but with the Spirit of the living God. The letter kills, the Spirit makes us ALIVE/GIVES LIFE.. 2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 2 Corinthians 3:2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: 3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
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You cant clarify, as that would speak against the testimony you are talking about. Jesus Christ has clarified, that the good thing we give our children, the Lord gives to us, and it is the Holy Spirit. Then it is also testified that it shall not be every man teaching his neighbour, for all know the Lord without them. ( believing that as men give good to their children, so the Father gives the good/Holy Spirit to them that ask Him. Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
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They do not ask anyone other than God the Father for His good/Holy Spirit.
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The giving of good things can only be as written in scripture, ( cant be added to or taken away from) and it is the Holy Spirit. Luke 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT to them that ask him? Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven GIVE GOOD THINGS to them that ask him?
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The false prophets percentage is many, and the percentage of their followers is many, the percentage of the ones on the narrow path was few, it went more narrow and more scarce numbers. Right now, who would believe truly, when forums to make up inventions and to discuss for self glory are the only interest shown. If a person has the faith of the Lord Jesus Christ, they reject the many false teachers, and choose just one, One Lord Jesus Christ, and leave the forums that produce no fruit of charity, as the love of God is to lay HIs life down for us, love is not them on a forum that only gets us to keep our life comfortable for ourselves. Shame on the talkers for a lifetime every day, if there was shame to be had, by hearing below how it was for Jesus, and what they show on the forums as their example. ( WHAT HAS 25-30 YEARS OF ONLINE DISCUSSION/FORUMS BENEFFITED, BUT TO PUT THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF A WORLD THAT ENTIRELY LIVES FOR CARES OF THIS LIFE/SELF GLORY NOW.).. John 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. 26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. John 12:27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. 28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; 10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec. 11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
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Nothing is observed with eyes, we don't look in faith in this world and that is why the day overtakes all who cant speak or believe in faith. They cant say lo here, or lo there, for the Kingdom of God does not come with observation. The false prophets say, lo, here is Christ, or there, and we believe them NOT. 2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
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No, you cant force, nor give anything, most who do any calling, are the many on the wise path to destruction, and if anyone can add up at all, that means the world has no chance or clue at all any more. Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 2 Peter 2: But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
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For a Sign and a Witness To The Lord in the Land of Egypt
Thomas2 replied to Mr. M's topic in General Discussion
Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. -
Warning: Don't be caught sleeping when the "Thief" comes!
Thomas2 replied to Vine Abider's topic in General Discussion
We are caught sleeping by the many false prophet teachers,. what else do you think catches the word and the forum is here for that purpose, except that it has a little warning, the same as our Lord Jesus Christ warned us. Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. -
Warning: Don't be caught sleeping when the "Thief" comes!
Thomas2 replied to Vine Abider's topic in General Discussion
Do you notice the actions of servants, or of enemies, is it difficult to see a difference and to know evil from good, light from darkness. Come forward 2000 years to now, and we see what the people of Israel do, the very same they did to our Lord Jesus Christ. How could more wrath be filled up by Israel, what would you suggest could be done to add to the uttermost.. Matthew 27:24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. 25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. Acts 13:45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. 46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. 1 Thessalonians 2:14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: 15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: 16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. -
Try your best to show we see darkly, from other verses, other than the two you have written your idea about, do you think there are any ? There are many scriptures, too many, all showing what LIGHT WE ARE IN. John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. 1 John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. 10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
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The world did not and does not know Him. ( as He is) we cant be the same if we claim to believe in Him. The Son reveals to us to know Him, ( the Father.) and did not say He partly and darkly reveals to us the Father, but tells us ALL THINGS. ( delivered to the Son of the Father) Do you think seeing darkly is the equivalent of seeing darkly now ? All things the son has heard of the Father, He has MADE KNOWN TO US. 1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
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Paul showed we see darkly, but that, that changes and we see when the light shines in that dark place/ when the day star arises in our heart.. 1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 2 Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
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We put away childish things, being children is BEFORE THAT FAITH/THT WHICH IS PERFECT, is come. 1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 1 Corinthians 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 1 Corinthians 14:20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. Galatians 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
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If you have any further details share away, if not, the disputing/unbelieving of this world is over, the testimony is told, meaning the end of the disputer is here.