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BoldlyProclaimingChrist, So basicly your saying that the Chucrhs is going out in defeat and that if that is any hint of a revival its deception. I understand that your believe that speaking in tongues is a deceptions. But my point is who cares if you speaking in tongues or not as longs as your living Godly and Christ like. I dont judge people by if the speak in tongues or not. I am sorry that you see the church as defeateed and that Christ is coming back for a defeated bride. I guess thats why you only look for escape (rapture) instead of preaching the gospel and seeing Gods kingdom be established in victory. Good thing not all christians live in doubt and think like you.

But the results are not bad at all. Think about it, First we kicked butt in afganistan and liberated the locals from taliban control and established a new goverment. Many people believed that we would be sending thousands home in body bags yet we have very few casualties then expected. Second we have captured or killed nearly every known high ranken alquada leader except for ben laden. But how cares ben laden is ether dead or a mole that can never have power or live in the open with out fear of being killed. Third, we defeated Sadam Hussain and took him and his evil leaders out of power and liberated millions of Iraqis. Yet we do still have a small rogues of sadam loyaliest and Iranian terroist still trying to bring terror to that region. But for the most part US in in control of Iraq. US does get a causualties but but for the most part they are way lower then expected in any war time situation. George Bush told us upfront that there would be casualties and sacrifices as in any war. But for the most part its been minimum. I give George Bush. A+ You might say that George Bush lied about the WMD. No he didnt most of the world believed that he had them encluding UN council and the dems. We had every reason in the world to believe he had them. He had them in the past because he used them on his own people. He had facilitys to make them and he refused to allow un inspecters in and when he did they were only allowed to go to certain places. UN and DEms authorized George Bush to use force agaisnt Saddam. I still support George Bush.

John, I not going to enter into endless long winded debate over OSAS doctrine. Look the only defferance in what I am teaching and what your teaching is this: I am teaching that people need to repent believe and live a Godly life. and yours seems to be the opposite. I am not teaching people to live by the old law but live as Christ lived. I am not a follower of Paul I am a follower of Jesus Christ and his life. I may follow Pauls example but only because he follows Jesus's example Paul told his followers to follow his example as he followed Christ. This is the same thing I would have told my followers during that time because they had no other Godly Christ like examples to follow. Pauls was teaching what Jesus taught. And if his teaching contradict Jesus then he is a false teacher. Jesus is THE MASTER (Teacher) and we are to follow him. Jesus is our example. To teach otherwise is simple false doctrine. Amen

Yes, Joel speaks of Judgement and Restoration. I was referring to Joel 2 about the early and latter rain. Joe 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month. Joe 2:24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil. Joe 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you. Joe 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed. Joe 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. I believe God is going to purify his Church in the last days and the Chruch will be a pure bride not tainted by this world. She we be beutiful and strong. I do not believe that God's Chruch will go out in defeat as many preach. The bible speaks of the second coming as of a marriage where the bride meets the groom. The bride spends much time making her self ready and beutiful for the groom. I beleive the great falling away is nothing more then a purging that God is going to allow in the last days to test and try his Church so the all that is left is a pure bride. Amen

Hehe...You noticed that too. I believe based on scripture that during the tribulation there will be a great falling away as spoken Mat. 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. But I also believe that just before the coming of the Lord there will be a great revival spoken of by Joel the prophet this will also happen during the tribulation but just before the coming of the lord. I believe the tribulation will bring about the great falling away. It will be a trying time for Believers and many will deny God and fall away. Yet at the same time the Church will be awaken and the true believers will grow while the fake and half hearted phonies fall away. Its much like when you prune a plant. You trim the unproductive branches off so that the plant will have new life and grow exceedling healthy and full and produce much fruit.

This is only because the dems have made him out to be one. They are famous for doing this to anyone that stands in their way. In my opinion he is doing an outstanding job and i will continue to support him. I also disagree with this plan. But Bush is being pressured to go with the UN's plan by you know who DEMOCRATIC Senoters and congressmen. You see what happened last time when bush walked away from UN's plan DEMOcrats kicked and screamed. So dont blame bush for going to the UN. Blame the Democrats who are demanding that US give way to the UN.

Yes, our security is based on our faith until the end. But faith with out works is not real faith at all. Faith without works is false faith. Its talk with out the walk. Works are the evidence of faith. You tell me you have faith but you do not have the works of faith then you are a hypocrite and a lier. Hyrpocrite: A person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold Example: If I tell you that your house is on fire and that if you dont get you and your family out of the house they will all parish. You tell me you believe every thing i say, But you remained in the house and you and your family died a horrible death. Did you really believe me? NO Its the same when Jesus says you must repent or you will parish. If we believe we repent and follow or we do not believe and go our own way. If you really believe your actions will show bearing fruit of your faith. Therefore faith with out works is not faith at all. Works are the evidence of faith. Can faith alone save you? Jam 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? True faith has works or its isnt faith So your saying that you can be a believer without being obeidant to God and its ok to follow the devil just aslong as we believe in Jesus. The bible says you can only have and serve one master. You Obey one and hate the other. You either obey sin unto death or righteouness unto life. The words and teachings of Christ were for all believes both Jews and Gentils. You can not pick and chose which scriptures you like and dont like you either follow all his teaching or none. Your doctrine teaches people to disobey God.

Amen DIME! Most OSAS people i have met put more faith into the doctrine of "eternal security" rather then the one who can keep them saved and from falling away.

Hey, that makes way to much sense for a Calvinist. Calvinst Rule book: Rule #1: If it makes sense than its has to be false. Rule #2: If it requires something on my part then its absolutely false. Rule #3: If you can convince yourself that your saved then your truly saved. Rule #4: Repentance and Obedience to God is optional. Rule #5: God picks and chooses unconditionally those he wants to love and hate. Rule #6 God pick and chooses unconditionally those whom he wants to give eternal life and eternal hell too. (Saved by Luck) Rule #7: God forces us to love and serve him with out our will or choice. Rule #8: Evangelism is a waste of time because God has already predetermined those who will and will not be saved. Rule #9: If a brother or sister falls away into horrible sins then we will deny they were christians to begin with; if they come back we will say that they were just backslidden and saved the whole time. Rule #10: "Sinners Prayer" is our initial key to salvation rather then Repentance, Faith and Baptism. etc....

Hi, Like I said we are not qualifed to judge others or ourselves because our judgement is not God's Judgement. We can in no wise see a persons heart only God does. God judges people by their heart which is their motives and intentions. We can not decern a persons motives or intentions only God can do that. Most of the time we can not decern out own motives until God shows us. We can only judge by what we see and God says not to judge by sight. I am not qualifed to tell you that you have eternal life or eternal death because Iam not your judge only God is. But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you, or by man's judgment: yes, I judge not my own self. For I know nothing against myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord shall come, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise from God. (1Co 4:3-5) Are we able to make manifest the counsels of someones heart? Are you able to bring to light the hidden things of darkenss in someone elses life? I have a hard time bringing to light the hidden things of my own heart much less others. I have a hard time understand my own motives and intentions until God convicts me reveals them to me. Do you think your a qualifed Judge of God's servants? I do believe we can judge for ourselves whats right or wrong in this life but we are not able to judge the conditions of someone's heart or their salvation based our own tainted views. I can Judge and say yes Suicide is wrong and horrible but I can not judge if that person went to hell or heaven. Only God can by that Judge. I can judge and say adultery is wrong but I cant say Joe is going to hell because I am not his judge. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth: and he shall be held up: for God is able to make him stand. (Rom 14:4) But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at naught thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment-seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling-block, or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. (Rom 14:10-13)

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Hi, I am not qualified to tell you if a person that commits suicide will go to heave or hell. The bible says that we are not even qualifed to judge our own salvation, becaue we all we have to stand before God and give account. God is the only one that is qualifed to say one has eternal life or death. So I will not judge no man before his time, I will let God be the judge of ones salvation and eternal destiny. God is the only one that knows a persons heart we can not. Just let God be the judge. God bless,

I agree with you I think he has a poor attitude. I think he needs to examine his fruit production system. Maybe I am misunderstanding him and taken his post offensive.

I think most MOrmons and Jw's have good motives would this qualify them as "false teachers" or false teachings.

Well that's alot of pity. Do you ever feel pity for the devil?

Hi, I had a pastor that worked in a bar as a bartender while he was a christian. He led many people to the Lord by given them Godly advise. Actually the assistant pastor was led to the Lord at that bar by the pastor while he was bartending. God is not limited to our religious ideas of him. God can work in a bar rooms just as he can work in any Church actually God is probably more welcomed in bars then in most churches. God bless,

Hi, I really dont know the answer to this question but Judas in a way did repent. If you read in the bible it says that Judas took the money that was given him for betraying Jesus and gave it back. This is an act of repentance, but yet in his sorrow he hung himself. Judas was remorseful and repentive. Judas was never really right to begin with. Judas had an ungodly lust for money and he would constantly steal from the money that was donated. Ultimilty his lust for money distoryed Judas by betraying Jesus for 30 Shekels. Do you see how if sin is not dealt with in the early stages that it will eventualy betray you. God bless,

CWJ, If your so admit about beleiveng OSAS doctrine why do you try to convince others that its the case? What impact will if have on their already existing salvation. Why are you tring to convince others that they can not lose their salvation if they fall away or backslide into sin? Isnt this the Lie that Satan told Eve? "Surely you will not die in the day you disobey God..."--Satan Why try to convince others of OSAS doctinre when it will have no bearing on their already existing eternal salvation? It is pointless. On the other hand we have every reason to warn others to stay true to God an be faithful to him till the end because you can fall away as the bible states and deny God by their words and deeds. Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. In your case its pointless to warn others that they can never lose their salvation. Actually in the case that the OSAs is a lie, which I turely believe it is, then Its the most deceptive false doctrinal lie you could ever teach a christian. Who do you think God is going to hold accountable for them falling away because they believed the OSAS doctrine? Your argument is completely pointless if not deceptive.

Hi, There are many differant types of fast spoken about in the bible and they all very in length and time. Fasting has everything to do about denying and weakening your flesh at the same time allowing the Holy Spirit to strengthen your inner man. Jesus said that alot of things come about through prayer and fasting. Fasting is not benifical unless your using that time to seek God. There many things that you can fast from such as: 1)Food 2)Food and Water 3)Delicate or Pleasing Foods (meats, desserts, coffee, wine, soda and all the other good stuff) 3)Sex 4)Pleasures -TV -Computer -Sleep -Golf (etc..) -etc... Here is a good book that I would recommend reading about fasting: God's Chosen Fast

So how did you become saved? Did you have to do anything or did you just wake up one morning and find yourself saved? We all had to do something in faith toward becoming saved such as confess with our mouth and believe in our heart.. These are all works that led to us being saved. We all have to repent in faith and God see's this and transformes, forgives and saves us. There are works of the law that do not save and there are works of faith that do save. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. (Jam 2:24) If I were to tell you that your house is on fire and that you must get you and your kids out or you will all die. You tell me that you believe me, but yet you stayed in the house and you and your family died. Did you really believe me? NO! If your really believed me then you would have listened and obeyed my instructions. You would have gotten everyone out of the house to safty and would have been saved. You see faith with works saves. Its not enough to simple say I believe because your actions speak for you. Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Do you see how faith and works go hand and hand. Faith requires actions/works or it isnt faith. Its the same with our faith in Jesus. Jesus says why do you call me Lord and not do that things I say? Jesus says you must repent or you will parish? If you really believe him then your going to repent and obey him and if you did not repent from sin and obey then you really dont believe. God dealt with me for a long time before I finally gave in to him and repented and confessed my sins and began a new life. With out me doing something in faith I would not be saved. Yes it was the grace of God drawing me but yet it was still my choice to repent, believe and follow. God did not force me niether does he force anyone to repent and believe. The bible teachs that godly sorrow leads us to repentance which leads to salvation. Repentance is work! Real faith has works or it isnt faith. Amen

Saved from sins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mat 1:21 Then after her baby is born, name him Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins."