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Bronze means the judgment of all the sins of mankind. Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. 8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. The people may not have realized the connection between the brass objects in the outer court, but Yeshua pointed to the brass (bronze) as said that it pointed to Him. He was made like sin so that we who look to Him for salvation may be saved from the serpent

Those of us who have been baptized, have by our baptism asked God to help us die to the old self and take on a new life in Christ. This is what Yeshua wanted his disciples to understand before they asked who gets to sit beside him on the throne. Matthew 20:21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. 22 But Yeshua answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. 23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. The Laver of Bronze was made of bronze, it was always filled with water. In the tabernacle in Jerusalem, the priests that served in the Temple washed their hands and feet at the laver before entering the Temple. This washing was symbolic of the washing of sins off our lives before entering into the services of God. Yeshua accepted all sins passed onto Him and bore the condemnation of these sins to the cross, that we may be washed and be clean from all sinfulness of the flesh. Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Revelation 1:5 And from Yeshua Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, To bear the condemnation of all the sins of mankind, Yeshua showed His willingness to take the sins of the world upon Himself by being baptized by John. Matt 3:13 Then cometh Yeshua from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Yeshua answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Yeshua, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Today the meaning of the basin is be washed of all our sins by believing in Yeshua and His ministry for us. Truly repentant, the Lord can save, those that seek forgiveness for themselves with the washing away of their sins as Yeshua provided in this symbolic service. If we follow Yeshua

To bear the condemnation of all the sins of mankind, Yeshua showed His willingness to take the sins of the world upon Himself by being baptized by John. Matt 3:13 Then cometh Yeshua from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Yeshua answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Yeshua, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Today the meaning of the basin is be washed of all our sins by believing in Yeshua and His ministry for us. Truly repentant, the Lord can save, those that seek forgiveness for themselves with the washing away of their sins as Yeshua provided in this symbolic service. If we follow Yeshua

The bronze altar in the outer court was 7.5 feet square and 4.5 feet high, was made of acacia wood overlaid with bronze, and had a horn on each corner. The fire on the altar was to be kept burning at all times and the daily sacrifices were offered in the morning and afternoon. Here a repentant sinner who believed in the One True God would bring in a little year old lamb without blemish to be sacrificed for their sins. They had to be there laying their hand on the little lambs head confessing their sins and then watch the life of the little lamb sacrificed in their place. So altar of burnt offering, worked on their imagination, burning the dreadfulness of sin, and the final consequences of sin and the sinner into their heart. It was telling them as it should be telling you

The bronze laver and bronze altar were located in the outer court. These two objects found in the outer court are the first two things that are needed a sinner approaching God need in their lives. The outer court represents Those things done outside ourselves, that prepare the way for God to work inside ourselves. It is important to remember that in Revelation it talks about the outer court and the fact that it is not included in the measurement of God

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I read your experiences and see that you are seeking to have an experience with God. When you had your first "Holy" experience I noticed that you did not mention your sinful flesh comparison to "Holy" which should have been extreme. Like Isaiah, who was probably a pretty good jewish fellow before his encounter, following the Words of God, praying, repenting, and trying to live according to God's Will, exclaimed, "Woe is me, for I am unclean" when he came in the presence of Holiness. IT isn't just a term, it is the very essence of God. Think about the instructions that Moses was given to prepare to meet God. He had to spend three days cleansing himself before going up to Mount Sinai. Even when the Lord cloaked Himself as a burning bush, Moses still had to take off his sandals, because he was on Holy ground. I know that many things you said on your website are based upon that which you have been taught (by the world) and have no foundation in scripture or in God's kingdom. IT is not up to me to teach you, but I would suggest that you do not accept any rubadub spirit. God has chosen His Words and He will come and talk with you, that is a promise. Get a concordance and look up all the discriptions that all the people in the Bible had when they encountered God. Look up all the different ways that they discribe their experiences. What did they experience. WHat did they see. What do you need to do to come in the presence of Holiness. Prayerfully study the Word of God to know that you are the Temple of God. You are to invite Yeshua in. He is the High Priest. Have you studied the Temple and all the services involved. This is what is to happen in you. The Mount Sinai experience is to be personal. We are to go to the foot of the Mount and pray asking God to prepare us so that we may go up and be before Him. He will instruct you through the Word of God what you need to learn in order to prepare to meet Him. You probably think I never read a word what you were saying about the tribulations. I did. Go back to God. Seek Him with all your heart. Empty the junk in your mind (attic) asking God to cleanse it. Open the doors to your heart, asking Yeshua to come in. Let Him open up the Book of your Life and go through it with you. Ask He shows you sin in its true light, repent, if you do not understand how that little thing could be all that sinful, ask Him to explain. He will. It will help you see how abhorant it is in His eyes. You will learn the root, branches and fruit of sin. Once you understand than you can truly sincerely turn away from sin, and with the strength from Yeshua never sin that sin again. Some sins are those favorite or secret sins, and when Yeshua turns the light on in your attic, they will be exposed. You will see how they look through the eyes of God and really know that there is nothing hid from God. Trust God, what sins He is cleaning out of your attic is worth it. He will replace your favorite sins with something far more precious and beautiful, than you can ever imagine. When God cleans you of all your sins you will experience the "peace that passes all understanding". I want you to know that any demons hidding away in the attic will flee, but not without causing a ruckus, and even violence. Good riddance. Let God be your teacher through the scriptures, let God be the one who leads you into all truth. I have been there, done that, and have no regrets, for being the presence of the true "Holy One of Israel" explains more in that moment that ten thousand teachers from earth. May the Lord be with you in a way you have yet to experience. May you case away from your mind all that you have experienced so far, seeking only to find the real God, the Holy One of Israel. DO NOT BE SATISFIED with sensations and feel good. The true God will expose you by the light of truth and it is not pretty. The true God will reveal to you the deep darkness that has covered the earth by the light of His Word. God will heal you. God will drive the voices that you have been listening to away so that there is only one and it is His. You will learn to recognise His voice, because it is scriptural. It is the living Word of God.

Interesting that there has been seven leaders of the UN and if Clinton gets His way he will be the eighth. Reminds me of this verse....

Now you are on the journey of your own spiritual life. Do not let your parent's religion become yours. [i do not like the word "religion" because of so many living the ritual and not the reality of the truth] You should want yours to be real. I believe what you want is to receive the Holy Spirit like the apostles and be real. Read the Bible, not for anyone but your own salvation. Search the scriptures for God. Prayerfully asking God to show you how to meet Him. Prepare yourself to meet the same God that Moses did on Mount Sinai. Desire to walk with God in the cool of the evening like Adam and Eve. Hopefully not feeling as naked as they did when they sinned. That is why it is always good to ask God to forgive you before He comes. Isaiah was caught a little unprepared one time, and said "Woe is me, for I am unlcean" and wished that he could just bury himself in the dirt in shame. That is why I want you to be prepared to meet the Holy One of Israel. God is real and you need to meet Him.

Most are familiar with these verses and understand that the Lord will come "like a thief". Now I want you to pay close attention to the verb. Here is future tense. We know that the Bible was written in such a way that every generation reading it saw their generation, and the Words of God could light up by the presence upon them to enlighten our minds that it applys to us today. Now look at this verse... it has a present tense. So we are not to be surprised. If we study the placement of this verse, you will know when the Lord will return.

Yep.. God will show and answer for Himself to your satisfaction and then all this is just argumentive seemingly conflicts over words will disappear. That is why Believers talk about the "peace that passes all understanding". They once also like you saw the seemingly controversial conflicts within the Bible.

Sounds like you hit a sore spot - his... Your relationship with the Lord is personal and between you and the Lord, gain strength from that relationship that any outside attitudes that you run into are taken to the Lord before reacting. You can pray for the peace that passes all understanding for your friend.

When I hear that, I think that this person knows the devil better than they know God. For if they knew the Lord better, then they would be giving God first place in their sentence and say something like this. I know my Lord, God and He is real, the devil also.

My favorite verse is Rev 3:20, because that is how He came into my life...as a God of His Word.

So I will venture.... In order for God to Judge the world without reproach, he must experience life in the same way that we do and live without sin to be able to say "It can be done, I have done it and so I am fit to judge with impartiality and without reproach." If he came to earth and took on a body, he wouldnt be living the same life we do. He must experience everything we do, including birth, which is why he came as "the Son of God". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, in everyway tempted like us, but without sin, our God did this for us.

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It has been 144 years since your prophet was alive. During the last years of her life, she was appalled by the wickenedness that had crawled into the high places of the organization. She indicated that she wanted nothing more to do with the church. She told you there would be more light. Reformation did not stop with SDA as they would like you to believe,.... there is more light. "And many times those who are seeking for light are by the same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may render obedience." Desire of ages p 232 Wake up.... you know that your prophet told you that if the church did not carry the light, that others would. I do not want to get into the history of your church or the prophet and her warnings against the organization that hijacked her words and put a different spin on it. Read Letter W-166 Dec 2, 1902 from Elmshaven, Sanitarium, CA to Edson and Willie White p 4-5

Then there is more prophecies that you must take into consideration. Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. The time of the gentiles is over. From the time that Israel became a nation again, which is a miracle only God could have done, Israel will again play a significant role in the endtime events. As far as understandin Christ and the ministry in the sanctuary of old, there is more. Have you ever watched a shadow show, well the feasts of God are that, but the real action is behind the curtain and the body is Christ. Just as Yeshua fulfilled the spring time feasts, so also he will fulfill the fall feast before His second coming. As it is in heaven, so shall it be upon earth, it is His kingdom coming.

A curtain reflecting the angelic activity in heaven, embroidered with cherubim, divided the holy from the most holy place. It is called the veil. It separated the Holy from the Most Holy where God dwelt on his mercy-seat, between the cherubim above the ark. These truths contained in the most Holy are sacred and immutable and as unchanging as God is. Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Messiah, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this will we do, if God permit. 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. At the death of Yeshua upon the cross, inside the temple during the time of the Passover Lamb sacrifice, a heavenly symbolism was sent showing the world the earthly temple sacrificial services were over forever. Mark 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. It was at that moment the new heavenly priestly services were instituted. Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; 20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Yeshua, made an High Priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. It is time for us to put on the fine linen that Yeshua has provided and come in and be united with Yeshua for eternity at the wedding ceremony. We are to spiritually come here to receive the final hidden manna, our new name, and to know the name of God at the appointed time.

This should not even be a debate, but should cause all of God's children to cry and sigh unto the LOrd for such attrocites.

I do, everyday. And isn't that something that every Christian is supposed to be doing already? But that wasn't my question. My question was, having been armed with the identity of the beast and the timing of the End, what should I then do differently? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Warn others.... find ways of preparing for the end without buying and selling in the NWO system that is coming. Pray that the Lord prepares you for what is ahead... and that you are prepared to do His will under the worse circumstances. Those are a few thoughts...

You do not realise how worried Tishri1 was worried about you...going around the neighbor hood knocking on doors asking about you. I am glad she found you... She was a mess.... now she is happy again. I came to Messiah believing this is the last call, and I have watched others come with nothing but a testimony of God's leading, not even a testimony of someone leading. I can attest to the fact that God lead me to the truth in His Word and then to others he had lead this far. Is it the end of messages from God, Nah... God will inspire us through out eternity with His wonders. We are just beginning to understand.

By the catholics fighting theologically hard that they are not the biblical prophectic one to rise to world absolute power, they have defeated themselves as it is at the heart of their theology. They can not have it both ways. They want to worship at the temple in Jerusalem, sit on the throne of God so to speak. They want the world to worship under their dictates and thus work very hard behind the political scenes, and are very visiably active in that arena. I also hope that they are not the biblical prophectic evil system. To want any religion to be the ultimate evil religious system, that cause all both great and small to worship or else is bringing the tribulation that is beyond anything this world has ever experienced so far closer to reality. I agree that Islam is a contenter for the evil position. I asked you to give me seven kings and now I will for your consideration. Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings.