Knight of Christ

I wanna swim with it!!!

Just another groupe of mornic polations woried about little peciesof paper that intruth have absulty no actual value

Please explain this. Basicly this, antichrist befor his body is possesed by satin is nothing more than another than anyother human wich means any super natural powers may have would be extremaly limeted thusly he would need the extra tec however limeted it is to help him keep control of the popoulas that is around at the time Revelation 13 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying,

Do you have a verse that states that, or is it just an assumption? At the moment no, but i will look into it for sure. But logicly espicealy at the start of the trib, antichrist will most likely be completly mortral possibly with some super natrual abiltyes aforeded by satin. But still lacking the abilty to read the hearts and minds of every liveing thing on the earth. (satin never had this abilty eather) Only God has ever had or ever will have that kind of power. It is less than an assumption and more of and an educated guess mixed with the stregec mind of both a chess player and that of a writer. Revelation 13 5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. Is the mark of the beast given at the beginning of the tribulation, or midway through it? Well everything i have seen tels me that it wont be long after Isreal enters into it's trety with antichrist, but i could be wrong on that part

Do you have a verse that states that, or is it just an assumption? At the moment no, but i will look into it for sure. But logicly espicealy at the start of the trib, antichrist will most likely be completly mortral possibly with some super natrual abiltyes aforeded by satin. But still lacking the abilty to read the hearts and minds of every liveing thing on the earth. (satin never had this abilty eather) Only God has ever had or ever will have that kind of power. It is less than an assumption and more of and an educated guess mixed with the stregec mind of both a chess player and that of a writer.

Please explain this. Basicly this, antichrist befor his body is possesed by satin is nothing more than another than anyother human wich means any super natural powers may have would be extremaly limeted thusly he would need the extra tec however limeted it is to help him keep control of the popoulas that is around at the time

Do you have a verse that states that? Revelation 13 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. Do you see what I highlighted there? That's how people are going to be identified. And satan doesn't have to be in all places at one time to accomplish his mission. He has followers for that. All you need to do is take a look at the world today to see that that's true. Have you not heard of the muslims, the buddists, the hindus, the common ordinary everyday satanist? The devil doesn't need a mark to know they belong to him. The same with the nonbelievers, he knows who they are. Do you think all those people are going to suddenly become christians once the beast makes himself known? The devil doesn't have to be able to read minds to know who his children are. True ...but antichrist befor he is indwelt will need such things

Ok lets get back on topic now lol I heard it posted that some think the mark is purly spuirtual, Honestly this makes no sence to me for the mear fact that the main propuse of the mark is that so antihrist can easely tell who is with him and how is not. If the mark where not phicical then even thouse who refuse to worship antichrist would not need to go into hideing for there would be no need to sence you couldent tell on person from another. Thus giveing all belivers the upper hand. as we all no that satin is not omnipresent he can't be everywhere at all times You all know that satin cannot read minds, (nor dose he know everything there is to know even though he would have us belive that he dose) he can only plant segsetions and study our reactions, so it seems to me that not haveing a real mark during this pitucluar time would not be prudent, not to mention that it would be a risk that i doubt that satin would want to take.

Amen brother

Simply because that is exactly were technology is not only headed, but is actually there in certain circumstances. Oic Well I don't want one. I don't even have a credit card for goodness sakes! What happens if they go cashless? How are you going to pay your tag renewal? Property taxes? Not only are they going cashless, but they are going to go to direct deposit, and get rid of checks, check, and debit cards. They are going to get rid of picture I.D. cards and it will all bundled up into the smart chip. Without it you will not be able to survive. It is the mark of the beast. That's not entirely true, to any body left behind my segustion would be to take a lesson from the north ameircians (indians) and learn to hunt eather with bow and arow or a spear, also start learning to farm and grow crops, on top of that they must relearn how to build strustures useing nothing more than the most base tools. (mostly knives and the like) There is no left behind because there is no pretrib rapture, we all need to heed the advice of Knight of Christ. Even though he is mislead about the rapture, he does give good advice about surviving the Tribulation. We need to become hunters, farmers, and fisherman. More so than all of that we need to trust in God for our provision just as the Israelites did in the desert, when he sent manna from heaven and water from a rock. Most important we all need to realize we cannot shrug off these discussion with the idea that we will not be here because of the rapture lie, unless we are dead first we will have to endure the tribulation, no matter how saved you believe yourself to be. Lets not get into a rapture debate there are a lot of other threds out here for the, scondly I wouldent be so convinced that there will be no rapture is i where you, becouse as of now they are all only theryes including my own, becouse for all we know every last one of them could wrong, that includes pre,mid,post, and none. And I'll thank you not to act like you are warnning everybody agenst me as if i was some kind of faulse profit. I don't take kindly to ppl trying to make themselves look like there better than everyone els. Sorry about that I didn't relise that the wife was still loged in here my bad Ahhh that make more since, however if you read through my post again I did not warn anyone against you or call you a false prophet, I told them that although you may be mislead about the timing of the rapture you gave us all good advice on how to live during the tribulation. By the way for the most part people who believe in the pretrib rapture, do so because it is what the church teaches. It is not their fault it is their teachers fault. The flock is not to be blamed because of this false teaching, the shepherds are. Well as for the rapture part normaly i would agree with you if it wernt for the fact that i have done some extetcive resurch on the subject, and have come to the conclusion that if all the phrophceys where tobe forfilled with any real cronalogical order then pretrib is the way to go. But like i said befor it like all the others is only a theroy and will remane so untill it happens for there s no way totruly test it in any rational manner.

Simply because that is exactly were technology is not only headed, but is actually there in certain circumstances. Oic Well I don't want one. I don't even have a credit card for goodness sakes! What happens if they go cashless? How are you going to pay your tag renewal? Property taxes? Not only are they going cashless, but they are going to go to direct deposit, and get rid of checks, check, and debit cards. They are going to get rid of picture I.D. cards and it will all bundled up into the smart chip. Without it you will not be able to survive. It is the mark of the beast. That's not entirely true, to any body left behind my segustion would be to take a lesson from the north ameircians (indians) and learn to hunt eather with bow and arow or a spear, also start learning to farm and grow crops, on top of that they must relearn how to build strustures useing nothing more than the most base tools. (mostly knives and the like) There is no left behind because there is no pretrib rapture, we all need to heed the advice of Knight of Christ. Even though he is mislead about the rapture, he does give good advice about surviving the Tribulation. We need to become hunters, farmers, and fisherman. More so than all of that we need to trust in God for our provision just as the Israelites did in the desert, when he sent manna from heaven and water from a rock. Most important we all need to realize we cannot shrug off these discussion with the idea that we will not be here because of the rapture lie, unless we are dead first we will have to endure the tribulation, no matter how saved you believe yourself to be. Lets not get into a rapture debate there are a lot of other threds out here for the, scondly I wouldent be so convinced that there will be no rapture is i where you, becouse as of now they are all only theryes including my own, becouse for all we know every last one of them could wrong, that includes pre,mid,post, and none. And I'll thank you not to act like you are warnning everybody agenst me as if i was some kind of faulse profit. I don't take kindly to ppl trying to make themselves look like there better than everyone els. Sorry about that I didn't relise that the wife was still loged in here my bad

Simply because that is exactly were technology is not only headed, but is actually there in certain circumstances. Oic Well I don't want one. I don't even have a credit card for goodness sakes! What happens if they go cashless? How are you going to pay your tag renewal? Property taxes? Not only are they going cashless, but they are going to go to direct deposit, and get rid of checks, check, and debit cards. They are going to get rid of picture I.D. cards and it will all bundled up into the smart chip. Without it you will not be able to survive. It is the mark of the beast. That's not entirely true, to any body left behind my segustion would be to take a lesson from the north ameircians (indians) and learn to hunt eather with bow and arow or a spear, also start learning to farm and grow crops, on top of that they must relearn how to build strustures useing nothing more than the most base tools. (mostly knives and the like)

OOOO brother

What happens to the rest of the people who were willing to accept the mark but didn't get it? The bible states that "all" will receive the mark, not just half, or 51%. Revelation 13 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, Your chip theory isn't logical. There just isn't enough time to make sure that everyone is marked. And it has to be everyone, because the bible states that. The battle between the forces of good and evil is not a physical battle. Yes, the physical forces of the world are involved, but the actual battle itself is a spiritual battle. I believe the mark of the beast is a spiritual mark. Revelation 13 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. This is mearly the thret of death to all thouse that will not worship him 16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Here he is saying that all typs of ppl will take the mark, not that nobody will refuse 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name And this is the resault for everybody and anybody that refuses the mark, yet again there is nothing to say that ppl will be socompled to do so that they cannot resist or refuse If you think that such a plan is imposible then you fail to relise the full scope of what i am trying to say. The things i have described have already started to be implmanted first with pets to prove that it can work second with soliders to control the millita,next will be the people. As far as thouse that are willing to recive the mark but dont get to there fate will be the same as thouse who did recive the mark...... eternal damnation becouse in there heart thay have already chosen to go with antichrist. A question though are you working off of the premiss that after the rapture no one at all will be able to choose for (even if they wanted to God will not alow it.) Christ? Becouse if so then then i can understand you're confusion on this subject Those who do not recieve the mark will be done away with. Some people will live in hiding. Of course not all will get it. Many will choose not to.

Why only 51%? Becouse when you own 51% of something then no one can own more than you do What's that got to do with the mark of the beast? You where say that such a plan would be impossible to implment becouse of time restrictions, i was try to show you that 100% control is not sesseary if you already control more than half

Are you serious? Only criminals don't want to be identified. How can you live in today's world without proving your I.D.? What about voting, getting a job, credit, having a bank account, buying an airline ticket, enrolling in your company medical plan or going to school? Unless you live in the woods, without utilities, a job, a car or anything else associated with living life in 2008 and catch your dinner every night......you need to have an identity. As for your friends who produce fraudulent I.D.s....THEY are definitely criminals and, chances are, they WILL get caught. I hope so. Let me see here first of all i don't vote, all of poltics arre crupt and need to be elimated, ppl are veary capable of takeing care of them selves when they are aloud to. (that is for another thred though) secondly I don't want to be idntfied, not becouse i am a crimnal but becouse the more ppl know about me the easer it is to be unlawfully acused of any and all crimes. I by my cars used and cash money only, credit is evil plane and simple I even refuse to have a prepaid card. I don't curently have a bank acout as i refuse to alow my money to be taxed twice, I am curently job less and more or less liveing in the woods or at least so far out that it would caust more in gas to go looking and such a low starting pay would mean that i am paying more in gas than i am makeing. Whay would i need to fly for, not like i am going to another country anytime soon. As for my friends I have been makeing progress with them but it is not easey, becides when the rapture happens and thouse type of ppl are left behind everyone els turnning to God after that just might need there talents in order to survive. I seroiusely doubt they will be caute for the main reason that the stay low profile, do not engage in ID theft and are not into counterfitting money eather

Why only 51%? Becouse when you own 51% of something then no one can own more than you do

So are you saying these chips could eventually turn out to be the mark of the beast? And the soldiers who have these chips would be doomed? Have you given any thought to the billions of people who live on this planet? What about the people that live out in the middle of nowhere. Who's gonna be turning those people in? Not every person living on this planet is accounted for. How many millions of dollars is offered for the capture of Bin Laden and we have yet to have him behind bars? The world has been searching for him since the towers fell. How much time do you think the Lord is going to give the beast to implement his mark? We are on the Lord's time scale, not the devils. Anti christ dosent need everybody only 51% of the population, other than that i think you are underestmating the abiltyies of th goverments spy stslites. The money would be offerd but who says that the one world goverment will pay out in full?????????????

wow man, we actually agree on something. All physical actions have a spiritual consequences. Consider the simplicity of the first sin and its dramatic consequences on humanity. Plus, any consent to deface the temple of God to continue service unto mammon, whether out of ignorance or fear, will result in spiritual defilement. I was about to say the same thing bilnd, not to mention the fact the the removeing or alteration of such devices would be dected almost instantly by rge satlite networks the would surly be in constant contact with it. Once you have it there would be no escape no mater how hard you try Ok, let's assume you're right. How are they going to install this chip or apply this barcode on all who are to receive the mark? How are they gonna go about tracking these people down? Have you considered the time it would take to do this? Have you considered the cost? Have you taken into account that there will be many people who consider themselves christians, who will receive the mark. Don't you think they would be a bit leery of anyone wanting them to accept such a mark? Especially when it pertains to buying and selling? Well i don't know about any barcode but as for the chip it would quite ease, In fact in a lot of Us mllita bases it is already being done as a means of ID with the excuse of replaseing the dog tages wich can be stoled off of a body or even go flying of a soldiers neck during a battel. As for how it's simple, the chip itself is no larger then that of the kernel that runs all of the systemes on any computer right now (by the was the krnel on a comp is more than half the sise of the chips implantd in dogs right now. The delivery prosses is aso the same a device wthe he chip loaded onto it is incerted into the back of the hand just under the skin, the person with it cannot feel it's presence makeing it impossible to locate with out special equipment. Once incerted it is ativated remotely and emedilty sends transmitions to a satlite net work wich feeds into a data base. The transfer rather could be as fast as 3gigabite every nanosecond (thats one billounths of a second) The information being let out can be as small as what youre last meal was all the way to all youre financel doings (wich most likely you would be required to provide for them so that thay an link up with you're bank and even you job and creidit history) Secondly our own goverment has satlites so powerfull that hey can zoom in on a fly sitting on the sholder of a person clear across the world. Can you anustly tell me that you trust youre goverment so much as to belive that thouse same systems are not being traind on us as well. As for time and caust thats simple as well we will be fitting the bill for one it's called incresed taxes. Time is simple as well the one world goverment will simply have the citisenry do that job for them by offering rewards to ppl each time they turn one in. (yes the ppl will be that blinded to what is going on around them) If they recive the mark then they never where truly belivers to begin with wouldent you think, for as i have heard it said befor a true beliver or than likely not be decived for therre eyes would have been opend long befor this thing is emplmented

Maybe I'm missing something, but we are not told to trust our government, we're told to follow Christ. Jesus even paid taxes to a Roman government so much worse than that which we have. We're told in Romans Chapter 13 to be subject unto the higher authorities God put over us, for there is no power but of God. Secondly, why are you concerned with the mark of the beast? If you're a Christian at this time you will not be here past the middle of the week of tribulation to come upon all the world when the antichrist is to be revealed and all these things come to pass. And then even those born again (the elect) during that tribulation won't be deceived by those things. A statement by Woodrow Wilson in that blog you left said - "Liberty has never come from the government; it has always come from the subjects of it." This thinking comes from one that evidently does not know the liberty a Christian has in any circumstance; in jail Paul and Silas sang praises unto God; they had freedom! Galatians 5:1 says "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free." Evidently Paul didn't think his freedom came as the subject of any government. Just wondering where excalty dose the bible depict that Jesus paid any tax at all?

But what about the rrest of us What about thouse of us that have absoulty no faith in this or any goverment, I see it as aveary big atempt at takeing our rights away and trying to get us to thnak them for it Mabt and maby not who knows I can't say i am agenst a drivers linces although maby i should but I am sure agenst things like the sences and hier forms. Besides who i am is on a need to know bassis the most ppl realy don't need to know Ok first off Didn't Jesus say "let you're word be enough" and secendly I know a lot of ppl from my youth who did and still make fake ID's and the like and they do it so well that chances are they will never get caut so what good would a system do anyone

wow man, we actually agree on something. All physical actions have a spiritual consequences. Consider the simplicity of the first sin and its dramatic consequences on humanity. Plus, any consent to deface the temple of God to continue service unto mammon, whether out of ignorance or fear, will result in spiritual defilement. . I was about to say the same thing bilnd, not to mention the fact the the removeing or alteration of such devices would be dected almost instantly by rge satlite networks the would surly be in constant contact with it. Once you have it there would be no escape no mater how hard you try

Actualy with the advances in tec over the past 20 years i am more inclined to say that most likely it will be a chip that is implanted under the skin. Sort of like thouse GPS tracking chips that vets are starting to implant in to the extra skin on the base of the neck in cats and dogs now a days. There are even credit card compinies ofering to do the same thing suposedly for convinence so the there costmers don't have to cary around actual plastic. (suposedly to prevent ID theft or whatever)

the Bible makes no distinction between any sort of tongues. this is a man made thing What?

Well i do not know bout the rest of you, but where i come from. During trick or treet if you are going to give ot candy or whatever you would eather A.) sit out side on the front poruch and wate for kids to come by. B.) leave the front light on to let everybody know that you are giveing out candy or whatever. If you are not going to give out candy you simpley leave the door shut and keep the porch light of. The porch light bing on or off will serve to indcate to the trick or treeters weather or not you are giveing out candy. Leaveing the light on tells ppl that you are where as leaveing it off tels them that you are not. Thisway makes things convenount for everybody becouse the trick or treeters wont have to waste there time going to a place where there is nothing, and the resadence do not have to be constantly be haveing to get up and down all night to tell ppl the excat same thing, that they are not giveing out candy or whatever. A rather simple plan wouldent you think.