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The american dream, is this not to get rich. This leads one away from God. Matthew 19:24

Hi Friend, the JW,s doctrines come from the bible. Lets look at this one--- Jehovah is the true living God, Jesus is Gods son, Jesus is not God. Your teachers teach you the opposite. Lets see what Gods word and Jesus say about this--- John 17: 1-6 Jesus is praying to his father ( Jehovah ) and calls the father-- THE ONLY TRUE GOD-- Backed up by Paul at 1 corinthians 8:6-- THERE IS ONE GOD TO ALL, THE FATHER--- And we find at revelation 3:12-- Jesus is speaking these words. And in front of the eyes, ears and hearts of all creation Jesus stresses the fact 4 times that he has a God-- Now does Gods word ever teach that God has a God?? The only defense these trinity religions have is John 1:1--- here is a fact that you are never shown by your teachers--- TRANSLATED FROM HEBREW TO ENGLISH IT READS LIKE THIS-- in the beginning was the word, and the word was with the God and the word was god. The hebrews used the word HO=THE when they spoke of the true living God.-- so we can see Jesus was not being called the God. Now since we all know that Jesus said that his sheep here his voice, and Jesus himself told us his father is the only true God, why do so many listen to opposite teachings??

1 timothy 6:16 -

Even the rocks know better than jesus ever lied. How does one become so confused on such matters.

That is 100% true. A gift must be received and we were all children of wrath before we received the gift of salvation. Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. Grace (unmerited favor) must be freely received or there can be no salvation. Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Hi Friend, yes those who believe on the lord Jesus will be saved, But God through his writers also said-- Those who do the will of God remain ( be saved ) And Jesus said-- This means eternal life ( be saved ) their taking in knowledge of you the only true God and the one whom you sent Jesus Christ. ( This means true knowledge not false knowledge ) Also God said-- Those who endure till the end will be saved. So one must apply all of these teachings from the word of God in the case of getting eternal life. And since God told us through Paul at Hebrews 10:26 There is no sacrafice ( Jesus blood ) for those who practice sin. You can do 99% but if you practice sin ( willfull sin ) iniquities, lawlessness, Jesus sacrafice was not for you. Why you may ask, Because that one stepped left or right of the narrow gate. Jesus is allready in the narrow gate. only those who enter the narrow gate will recieve grace, salvation. These are the children of God. And at 1 John 3:9-10 ( this is a mirror for all of us to peer into. ) It tells all who they really are to God. And i tell you this truly-- There is a book of life, only God knows the names written in it. No mortal man has ever seen these names or this book. Not one mortal man alive can read anothers true heart, only God can read the true heart. Not one mortal man truly knows if his brother practices sin or will in the future, so i tell all. Not one mortal man can tell another he is saved. this is reality my friends, God has given us a scale persay to weigh the outcome for our lives and it is this-- for 70- 90 years of life now we can practice sin and kid ourselves that we are saved or live to do Gods will with our whole heart soul and mind, and love our brothers and sisters even our enemies Jesus said. and we will recieve trillions upon trillions upon trillions of years ( still just a drop in the bucket where it concerns eternal life) The choice is ours. But true knowledge is a must.

Hi Friend, one must consider this, That the children of God are the only ones who get this grace, the children of the devil will not get this or salvation.

Hi, Obviously if one keeps on doing a sin he doesnt do it because he hates doing it, to God anyways. There is a list at 1 corinthians 6: 9-11-- Drunkards ( probably drugs to since Paul said the word Pharmacia was the way the demons could enter a human ) adulterers, men who lie with men ( homosexuality ) fornicators( men who have sex with a woman out of the marriage arrangement) revelers, idolotors, thieves,greedy persons, extortioners,--- see at 9 it says WILL NOT ENTER GODS KINGDOM ( this is where eternal life is ) and in 11 it says-- this is what some of you were ( past tense ). This is Gods reality. God said those words through his inspired writer.

I totally agree. That's why I'm OSAS. And you never did answer my question. But I'll move on. Hi Friend, no one knows it doesnt say if they were saved. but this is obvious truth, These did powerful works in Jesus name ( do any of us do powerful works in Jesus name? ) Obviously if someone is doing powerful works in Jesus name, they think they love Jesus very much, in their hearts, minds, and souls, but they practiced sin, Jesus called them workers of iniquities= practiced sin( 1 John 3:4 ) and he confessed that he NEVER knew them, These were told ( had their ears tickled ) you are saved. But the opposite is truth. In Noahs day there were 8 children of God alive out of all of mankind. 99% minimum were the children of the devil, God compared these days with Noahs day.And God said-- The road is narrow, few will find it. one way to be positive is to make sure of all things. satans #1 way to mislead mankind has always been by transforming into an angel of light by posing as god in false religions.

Hi Friend, Sometimes it is called willfull= meaning that one knows it is sin and yet does it anyways, says i am sorry, then does it again, then says i am sorry, then does it again, etc-- truly this one is not sorry to God. How can one put on the new and then look back and do, in reality this one has not put on the new. they are likened to Lots wife. By the judgement of God Lot lived, His wife died. She looked back. She didnt even have the opportunity to commit a sin, but in her heart it was her true desire. God the only reader of hearts, the only one who has the book of life, no man has seen the names written in this book, no man can tell another that he is saved because he cannot read hearts.

Hey, a point of agreement! But really, nearly 80 pages and no end in sight looks like something to walk away from. Hi Friend, alls it takes is listening to Gods word over men.

I'll tie up this one loose end. You did not answer my question. Were the people in that passage never saved (as you stated) or once saved and then lost (as you also stated). These two things are contradictory; both cannot be true. Either they were never saved or they were once saved and then lost. Which is it? "one can be saved and then turn to the practice of sin" Nobody denies this. "I have know some who..." Anectodal evidence. I could as easily say that I know people who reject OSAS (like Roman Catholicism) yet sin like the devil because they can just confess it. OSAS is not the problem, since both extremes practice sin and ask repentance. "Once saved always saved is a false teaching" That is the issue being debated. Debates are not won by simply asserting a premise, over and over. "Gods word clearly shows that those who practice sin are the children of the devil." Again, nobody denies this. And both CS and OSAS believers practice sin and ask forgiveness, day after day. Hi Friend, But at i John 3: 9-10 it clearly says that a true child of God cannot practice sin, instead these practice righteousness. Repentence is the stopping of doing the sin, not doing the sin and saying i am sorry and keeping that process going. As i showed, God said through his writer Paul at Hebrews 10:26-- That there is no sacrafice ( Jesus sacrafice ) for those who practice sin. God told all of us this. And if one loves Jesus one listens to his voice at Matthew 7: 21-23. He will confess he never knew the workers of iniquities ( lawlessness ) And that is practicers of sin. So as i stated not one mortal man can tell another he is truly saved because he cannot read the true heart, nor know if that one will become a practicer of sin or still is a practicer of sin. Also at 1 Corinthians. this is a list of some sins and says -- those that do these sins will not enter into Gods kingdom, and goes on to say that this is what some of you were ( past tense )-- repentence is not doing sin and saying i am sorry over and over again. Right there with that past tense clearly shows that repentence is the stopping of doing the sin. This is what God says through his writers. So again i beseech all-- MAKE SURE OF ALL THINGS. ETERNAL LIFE MAY DEPEND ON ALL OF US DOING JUST THAT. We do not want to hear these words from Jesus to us on judgement day( matt 7: 21-23)

Hi Friend, There is no christian saved that has not repented first if he is a practicer of sin. At Hebrews 10:26-- God told us through Paul that there is no sacrafise ( Jesus sacrafice ) for those who practice sin. That is what God says.

Hi, Actually repentence blots out sin, Salvation is a free gift because we all sin, but not all practice it.

Hi Friend, At 1 John 3: 9-10 says a child of God cannot practice sin, He practices righteousness instead. But the ones who practice sin, or hate their brothers are the devils children. Like i said a couple of times allready no mortal man can tell another he is saved, because that one could go practice sin willfully after the fact and be turned into a child of satan. No child of the devil will recieve salvation or grace.