Vickilynn

Shalom Rustyangel, I am so sorry that your husband is fighting cancer. I pray that the L-rd's grace and healing will surround him and also that G-d will give you peace.

Shalom Sheya Joe! Oh, I lOVE your blog entry! You are so right! And I wanted to tell you how much I enjoy your picture, a submissive woman in a headcovering. You are beautiful! Thanks for sharing your blog.

Shalom Mike, The truth is, and what I'm trying to focus on is that the day is about More than just turkey. It's about G-d. So, why give a dead bird a place of honor that G-d alone deserves? What's so fun about not giving honor to G-d for the day and for the blessings He gives us? I truly don't understand why anyone would choose to remove G-d from THANKSGIVING day and make it about a turkey. If every day is the same, then every day should honor G-d, not turkeys, right? That's what the Scriptures say.

Shalom Emily Anne, Thank you for sharing that. Amen, Happy THANKSGIVING Day!

Shalom SP, Yes, I DO understand what you're going through and the holidays can be so difficult missing those we love so much but are not with us any longer. I DO understand the pain you feel and I do not want to add to that pain. I pray for G-d's sweet comfort for you SP and His grace to hold you up during the holidays. G-d bless you too SP!

Shalom, Give thanks with a grateful heart, Give thanks to the Holy One, Give thanks because He's given Jesus Christ His Son. And now let the weak say "I am strong." Let the poor say "I am rich." Because of what the L-rd has done for us Give thanks. Speak to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, offering praise and making melody with all your heart unto the L-rd, at all times and in everything, unto G-d the Father in the name of our L-rd Jesus Christ. May you and your loved ones be especially blest. Hear the song "Give Thanks" from Don Moen Songs for Worship

Shalom, Amen!

Shalom SP, It is not bashing of any type. Sorry dear, you are missing the point of this thread then. I'm sorry you feel that way, but then, we never do agree, do we?

Shalom Nebula,

Shalom Andrew, WOW, you see things darkly, don't you? No, I don't expect the "world and the people who belong to Satan" to honor Messiah and G-d. But I DO pray His people will. That is the reason for this thread.

Shalom AnotherTraveler, Amen, and thank you for your gracious reply and wonderful post.

Shalom Ted, So then, what is wrong with a simple reminder to exalt the ONE who gives the blessings, rather than with what it is celebrated? Sometimes we can get our eyes off the real issue and forget where our next breath comes from. That is the reason for this thread.

Shalom Ted, Nope, not bad at all, but to exalt the turkey over the L-rd is bad, IMHO. It's not a "Turkey day", but it's a day to give thanks. Sure we can eat turkey and rejoice, but these celebrations must never be exalted over the One who gives the blessings!

Shalom LadyC, I pray that something in this thread will help us not to refer to this day in any other way that for giving THANKS to G-d and to be humbly grateful to Him.

Shalom, Those of you ridiculing this thread, please stop. Your posts are ungracious and inconsiderate. This is a serious issue. Please refrain from posting your silliness and irreverence. Thank you. Please consider that all we have is BECAUSE G-d gave it to us. We should be so humble and grateful. James 16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers. 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change. 18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

Shalom, exactly. Wrong. You aren't believing G-d's Word if you believe that. You are using man's faulty logic again. We cannot use our own strength to "get over" things. Only the Holy Spirit within us (IF we are truly born-again) can change our hearts. And we must surrender our will and walk according to the Spirit. Galatians 5 16But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21envy,[d] drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

Shalom LadyC, I'm so sorry. I pray the day goes well and G-d's peace and love reign and rule.

Shalom, Based on your reply, I need to ask if you are truly Born-again. Are you? Do you have Jesus as your L-rd and Savior? Do you read the Bible? Do you believe it to be the inerrant Word of G-d? By the way, this is not a joke. It is a matter of life and death. Hey, how about using some of your so-called logic and read before you respond and say something so wrong!! I never said that either. Let me lay it out for you. That is the statement that is a lie. If you are so convinced man's logic is so great, please use it and do not lie about me. And are YOU, in fact a Christian? A Born-again Christian?

Shalom, That statement is a lie. Someone who exalts man's wisdom should never distort the truth in such a manner. It eliminates all credibility. And lying is never logical. I am sorry that you are annoyed. You shouldn't be. That is why I said you should ask the L-rd to give you grace in this area. Yes, you have, thank you for you apology. Yes, you obviously so need grace if you are "annoyed" at other Christian's reverence for G-d. Just ask Him and He will give it to you. You will no longer be "annoyed" at the way people reverence G-d.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too Lady C! Food sure does smell good! you can smell it from HERE? wow, you got a good smeller. wanna take my place at the table? i'm not looking forward to this day at all. in fact, i'm so stressed out i just want to cry, because any minute our company will arrive, and i really wish i could be anywhere else. Shalom LadyC, Oh dear!!! I'm so sorry that you are stressed! Why is that? Family? I pray for G-d's peace and comfort for you. ::::hugs::::

Shalom T, First off, my name is Vickilynn. I don't usually answer to other people's names. Please do not call me by someone else's name. It's common courtesy. If you want to shorten my name, you can call me "VL." Thanks. And no, you are NOT a parent, and the truth is, you really have no knowledge of what you're talking about as a parent, since you are not a parent. All you have is man's logic and head knowledge, which gets you nowhere. Don't put words in my mouth, that's not very nice, nor is it accurate. Someone so concerned with man's wisdom should strive to be more accurate. I'm saying G-d is all wisdom. Man is not. If you have a problem with that, please read your bible. Your logic is useless in comparison to G-d's wisdom. You cannot argue that man's logic is any match for G-d's wisdom. Even non-Christians know that. Proverbs 21: 30 No wisdom, no understanding, no counsel can avail against the LORD. I see that LadyC posted a good one. There are others. You really should look them up for yourself. It will help you in the future. I see you use this argument a lot on this board and it's not a Biblically sound one. Man's logic is limited, G-d's wisdom is not. Isaiah 55: 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. Actually, that is incorrect, your question was not phrased as a hypothetical at all, it is a statement of generality and cannot honestly be answered as written. You should know that. Only if the question was phrased as a hypothetical, which it was NOT. Please read up on the phrasing and wording of hypothetical questions. Actually, it does not, but I'll overlook your incorrect wording and answer for MYSELF, from real life experience (not hypothetical) and not speaking for anyone else. In OUR home, our children are NOT spanked out of anger. Ever. Nope. a) Since it doesn't happen in OUR home, it needs no correction. b) Is what worth it? Following G-d's ways instead of man's? ABSOLUTELY! There is no choice in my mind or my husband's. G-d's ways are the only right ones. We BELIEVE in spanking as a Biblical form of discipline. We seek no alternative since G-d showed us this was the correct method. And LadyC addressed your "annoyance" but next time, you should ask why people do it before you judge. It's a shame that you get "annoyed" at other people's reverence for G-d and their heart motives. That is something you should really pray about and ask the L-rd to give you grace. Also, it is a Scriptural thing why I do what I do and as I said before, I believe G-d's ways are always right.

Shalom Dear Friends, Now, y'all might accuse me of picking at nits, but to be honest, it disturbs me to see this day of Thanksgiving being referred to as "Turkey Day." Oh my, what have we come to if this is how we see this day and all it stands for? Is it about a "turkey??" I feel the same way when people reduce Christmas, which celebrates the birth of the Messiah, to nothing but the secular celebrations. I pray that instead of flaming me for being picky, that those reading will STOP and thank our gracious, loving Heavenly Father for all the things that you have, because HE has given them to you! It's not about eating, it's about being so full of thanks to G-d that we overflow! Yes, it's about history and yes it's a joyous celebratory time, but let's remember that it is a day of humble thanksgiving to our G-d, not a "turkey day." What are you doing today to give glory to G-d and thank HIM for all your blessings? Psalm 9 1I will praise thee, O LORD, with my whole heart; I will shew forth all thy marvellous works. 2I will be glad and rejoice in thee: I will sing praise to thy name, O thou most High.

Shalom LadyC, I'm not addressing your answer at all dear.

Shalom Thoughtful, To be perfectly frank and with all due respect, it really doesn't matter which answer you LIKE. What matters is the truth. Man's logic is nothing. G-d's is everything. Of course I "jumped" to G-d as the answer, because He IS the answer. If you want man's logic, then that's what you'll get, but it isn't G-d's truth. G-d is every answer to every question, logic is foolishness according to the Bible. Again, you are not a parent and as such, you would not understand. Your question cannot be answered for all of humanity. You asked the question in generalities. I can answer for MYSELF and MYSELF alone, but that's not how you worded it. If you'll re-phrase the question so it is a real, answerable question, I will answer. I don't deal in generalities and you can't either, since we cannot speak for others.

Shalom Thoughtful, You addressed a serious issue in this discussion. You are not a parent. You do not have children, and as such, you really don't have the answer to this question because you have not walked through this and had to seek the L-rd for your OWN children. It's like a non-Christian doing all this reading and giving all this head-knowledge about what being a Christian is. You don't REALLY know what it is until you are led by G-d and experience Him. As far as spanking goes, your arguments are man-centered. The bottom line is the Scriptures. G-d's ways are always right, even to man who may think they aren't. Spanking is BIBLICAL and thus cannot be argued against if one wishes to follow G-d and not man. This is not a real question. You cannot know every child, every home, every parent in the world! Again, as had been said, just because SOME people may abuse the spanking, that does not negate that G-d said it was Biblical. You must make the choice, follow G-d's ways or man's. Like Emily Anne, I'll choose G-d's. By the way, we raised FIVE children and know 1st hand that once you HAVE children, you may see things differently.