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Thanks for the link gator, was a good read, and the numbers are better than I had thought.

I understand there are two different battles, I was talking about the prophecies from the Old Testament that describe devastation to the earth, which I don't see happening until after the millennium, at this final battle. I'm also not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying the fire that comes down from heaven is the lake of fire? God bless

What about this keras? Revelation 20:7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. As far as I can tell, this is when the fire enters into it regarding what is described in the OT prophets. God bless

That is absolutely true. If Trump was dropped in the middle of these folks with no protection, they would tear him to shreds, literally.

Yeah, that would be more likely than the individual's obituary and lifestyle that was attributed to me!

It seems to be the original intention that it would be kwik. Consider this, when the founders began the Revolution, people were making straw figures of King George and burning them in public. He was the official leader of the colonies at that time. Fast forward to 1963, the FBI claimed to the Warren Commission that Oswald had visited the FBI office in Dallas and met with an agent Hosty, where Hosty claimed Oswald informed him of his intent to assassinate Kennedy. This was several weeks prior to the assassination, but Oswald was not even investigated over this by the FBI or by the Secret Service. Hosty claims that he destroyed his notes from this meeting with Oswald, so no official documents exist to support his claims, but this evidence was accepted and used by the Warren Commission to conclude Oswald was responsible for the assassination. The point being, exactly when did it become acceptable that one could not speak against leadership? These rights we were granted revolved around the very right to do so. God bless

I do get where you are coming from, and I appreciate the respectful discussion. This smile is for you. I have the same look in regard to the subject matter, but only because I believe we are being tricked into giving up the very freedoms that allow us to share the gospel from the pulpit, on this forum, or anywhere else for that matter. God bless

I do expose the hypocrisy, almost daily. My senators and congressman know me on a first name basis, I am a thorn in their side and very outspoken in the community here. When they get enough people to give up their freedoms I will probably be one of the first ones locked up in their FEMA camps for being a non-conformist. They are well aware that I will never conform to their twisted ideals and forced inequality.

Yes, they all do have them. So what happened during the Obama administration when this was agreed upon. Either he ignored his advisers or they know less about science than I do, if that is possible.

No, I continue to object to it. Inequality is the very worst of things.

The law should always be applied even-handed, but it is not the case and never will be as long as the enemy is in charge. It won't get better either, it is only going to get worse. The very people who coined the term hate speech think just like Kathy Griffin, so if you are expecting her to be punished it isn't going to happen that way. We the people can deliver our own justice, and it will hit home with more impact. This is exactly why I don't go to comedy clubs anymore, don't go to the movies anymore, and don't watch TV anymore. The enemy controls these things and there is nothing in it for me. I can object to what they stand for without sinking to their level. We all know you can't convince someone of the truth by beating them over the head, anymore than they can convince us of their lie by beating us over the head with it. God bless

Of course they can have it both ways, that is why they have constructed the system to their liking. It only applies when they decide it does, which is the whole problem with it, inequality.

The entire hate speech, hate crimes category is nonsense to me, born of political correctness and another form of tampering with freedom by distinguishing between specific groups as to what is allowed or not allowed. It is rooted in inequality, which I am fervently opposed to.

Really sad, what makes it worse is that her and those like her are the ones given a voice in the world we live in. I pray for her.

I understand what you are saying Davida. I'm not politically correct, probably because what political correctness is all about in my view is to oppress and silence opposing views. I would disagree that this wasn't for laughs though, she is playing to her crowd. The problem with someone like Kathy Griffin is that they don't live in the same world we do, these people honestly believe that everyone thinks like they do except for a small contingent of people who are out in left field. They don't realize they are the ones out in left field because they don't know right from wrong. I don't dismiss it as comedy either, it is not funny in the least. I don't find any modern day comedians funny for that matter, other than a few exceptions. Comedy today is centered around politics, and I don't find that an amusing topic, it doesn't help that most of them are liberals either. I don't approach liberty as given to me by the Constitution, that was simply luck in geography for me, liberty was given to us by God. People can choose their own path, and Kathy Griffin has chosen hers, as she has made clear over the course of time. So I will pray for her, and at the same time defend her God given liberties, regardless of how tasteless I find them to be. God bless

I agree 100%, in fact, I bet within the day you will start to hear people in the media and from the Hollywood side of things blaming this all on Trump. Wait and see if he doesn't end up being the bad guy in all of this.

No, I don't find anything she does or says funny, she is tasteless. Making accusations against me or others does not make you right, sorry. Not one person here has defended what she did or found it acceptable.

I agree there is nothing funny about it, she is not funny at all in my opinion, never has been. I just don't see what she did as a legitimate threat, and this investigation will go nowhere and cost the taxpayers money for nothing. Her actions were tasteless, just like most everything else she does, and she is going to pay for it and already has in many ways.

Thanks, I will go back and read this again, and yes I would appreciate additional info when you have the time. God bless

She's a comedian, she isn't supposed to be taken seriously. Those who do take her seriously are already of the same mind set anyway, they simply hate the President because they swallow whatever nonsense the media or Hollywood types spout. The point is, they already think that way, she isn't inciting anything, just following the predictable protocol of those who hate anyone that thinks differently.

He may not be singing that tune, but it still holds true. For several years I was unable to work due to a disability from an accident, I did not qualify for unemployment and was denied assistance by the state and federal government. So those numbers never reflected those in my situation, and there are a lot, so unemployment is always higher than their figures suggest. What thread are you referring to as far as job types? If you can link it here for me, or let me know the name of it, I would be interested in reading it. God bless

How about all those on wall street that got a free pass in 2008 as well. lol

Agreed, if we start imprisoning people for things like this where does it end? She's a comedian, not being good at it isn't a crime. Let the fallout teach her a lesson.

Definitely a good thing, would still be nice to see job creation that isn't based on minimum wage.

The lie becomes the truth and the truth becomes the lie, what a world.