alex73

I too take these post as they stand. because I can't ''read'' you body language or hear your voice tones. Aren't many of us testing our own concepts, understanding, bias, in an open arena ?? therefore Chill folks if it offends.

You might give mine a listen. We have no membership and nothing you can join. We have two different Sunday services with different messages. Wednesday night bible sthdy, Friday night prayer service, outreach prison ministries, Saturday Bible studies in the gym, youth groups, camp meetings, our own gym with basketball, racketball, weight rooms, steam baths, & whirlpools all inside. You can visit online at "Livingwaterstabernacle.com" - You may not like it at all ><> ><> I had a looks much like ours with a different ''Acent'' Mine--> http://www.newfrontiers.xtn.org/ Local,to be updated.---> http://www.kingshastings.org/index_act_megamix.htm

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1) Teaching that is biblically based. - If a church doesn't teach the bible then I wouldn't want to attend. 2) The acknowledgement & welcoming of the Holy Spirit. 3) Focus on the cross & the fact that it is now empty. I think that one of the most important things for Christians is to remain focused on Jesus, our eyes on the 'prize'. When you find it don't join you'll make it less than it is or could be.!!! Life with a capital L away from the the man made traditions. (however I have nothing against churches that aren't lively or the people who chose to be part of it.) Therefore the Spirit & the truth of the word. I also think it is most necessary for a good church has good 'social' aspects. If the only things that ever happen at a church are a Sunday service then staying a Christian during the week is much harder. Youth groups, midweek housegroups and bible-studies, weekends away, holiday clubs, encouragement to meet in small prayer groups (prayer 'triplets etc.'). The less important things: Do people agree/disagree? What are your thoughts? & of cause FOOD----> Have you noticed that when you have people round for a meal & you then ''move to a more comfortable seat'' the indepth conversation dies some what !!

I believe that all who are filled with the Holy Spirit are therefore able, & sometimes available to lead others as we pass on that gift, discipling as we continue on the path Christ has led us. We were chosen to do this, we are sometimes called to give a word, to prophesy, to interpret etc. Leaders are chosen by God & the body of people around them will in time recognise this & anointing & will be drawn to the Christ at work in them. Working with children from 6-11 over some 15 years I have seen & worked with some who quite obviously have a gift which can be seen to develop. One now 12 is helping with an older teens group on the 'foundation course'. Another who way back in the '90's would pray for any age of persons for healing or anything else who now at 20+yrs leads praise regularly in my local group & at youth conferance as does one of his contemperaries. ( 5000) If you want someone to pray for something in particular, ask a child they come to it as Christ has ask us to come to Him. Some time back it was know in China for a 15yr old to be covering/leading Churches; not just one church, as there was such a desparate need for people who could preach teach as the general population of believers could barely read let alone interpret the meanings, what an anointing.!! If someone joins & they ''Held'' a position previously don't be in haste to place them into a similar post they may have experience & also left the other place through an unhappy experience. If they are not able to just chill & be one of the followers were they ever able to learn whether they were ever malable enough for God to use them. (Humility,servanthood.) lessons I need to learn.

As there are it seems, so many (Grumpy)young & elder people amonst us who are feed up to their back teeth with the O.T.T. suggestions & legislation around the whole area of things P.C. 1) Do you think this is serious & affects each of us in society??. ><> I think it has some baring on each of us. If we haven't been directly effected by P.C. We have all heard or read something that makes us angry for the sake of others. 2) what is the answer???? ><> When we are in direct contact with P.C. we can make a statement as simple as this. Being asked by my son if I would enjoy an art exhibition, we went to the pay desk & asked for ''one & one pentioner'' the assistant said ''senior citizen!'' I just said ''pensioner will suit me'' ( I was lighthearted that day.) I told him to accept what people found they were comfortable with & not to down trodden by pressures of P.C.. Don't you think we're all able to get people to think instead of just going with the flow. Look where going with the flow has taken many countries inhabitance. Christians might say prayer, politicals might say lobby the government, radicals ''lets march''. 3) How do you suggest the ''man in the street'' makes his/her stand against these over emphasis.??? or should we continue to let things slide.? ><> that why the world is in the state it is now because the Church has let things slide by us.!! I would say please don't just let this topic slide. Just one type of crazyness--------> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-...hed-struck.html

Christ did more than that is written in black on white. 1)What did He do?? 2) Is He still doing more than is written in The Word.?? 3) Do we limit Him (Can we??) 4) Have I let Him out of my box???? & (How about you) 5) How does His other works show now?

><> So my comments have no value or need your response !!??

Acts 7:51 -53. 51 "You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit! 52 Was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him 53 you who have received the law that was put into effect through angels but have not obeyed it." Q.1. Do you think the Holy Spirit spoke through the prophets?? Q.2. Did the O/T Law carry with it the ''Word'' the living Word?? Q.3. Did they 'miss' it because they did not recognise the work of the Holy Spirit or not ''Know'' God.??

><> The lack of replies from the rest of your country suggest your a brave man

I am suprised that no one has aded a comment after reading mine concidering the responses I had in the begining. So do I assume that you now see some of the points I made to have been reasonalbe.????

Why don't you give us an example of what you wanted to hear? Please don't tell me you're actually comparing the U.S. to China. Perhaps if you posted your question on a secular forum, you will get the answers you so desire. ><> was just a jibe,! what about point two??

Given the seemingly biased responses here, I was sadened,I just hope the Brits aren't ask their thoughts on the U.S.A. & it's leader. I didn't hear any of the Christian bias to the love of Christ to all men/maids & the proverb of planks in eyes or even people in glass houses!!!!!!!!!!!!!

><> I like 'em thanks . Any more of this quality any one??

Yay, a poll - I love these. The whole children/grandchildren thing is an interesting twist, what a good idea. WHAT OF YOUR CHARACTER WOULD YOU CHOOSE TO LEAVE WITH YOUR OFSPRING.? All the good bits. HOW MANY FRIENDS DO YOU HAVE.? As many as consider me their friend. WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR EXTENDED FAMILY LIKE.? Depends which ones WHAT OF LIFE'S CHALLENGES WOULD YOU HAVE AVOIDED.? None, as long as God is in control - they build character. WHY DIDN'T YOU HAVE CHILDREN.? Because my husband hasnt turned up yet. (wish he'd hurry) WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE DAY? When it comes - the most important thing to me is that it's a celebration - whether that means an elopement or a grand scale cathedral setting with a ten foot cake, I don't care. I hate the 'we have to do this because everybody else does it thing'. If it's fake or won't bless us, (or others) I don't want it. Things I would like my children to know - If you arn't willing to lay down your life for God, you cannot live for him. Do it, do it, do it - regardless of what you think you may lose - it's only temporary. If you've run the race well - nothing else matters. If nobody else sees much worth in you or your life but you've done the above - you'll be laughing for the rest of eternity regardless. Eternity is a long time. 1. WERE YOU NAMED AFTER ANYONE? Yes. A friend of my dads. 2. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU CRIED? Tonight. 3. DO YOU LIKE YOUR HANDWRITING? It's ok, I'd like it to be nicer but I think so would most people. 4. WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE LUNCH MEAT? Hmmm 5. DO YOU HAVE KIDS? No 6. IF YOU WERE ANOTHER PERSON WOULD YOU BE FRIENDS WITH YOU? Yes, but I would try not to expect too much or put a lot of pressure on. (At this point, anyway.) 7. DO YOU USE SARCASM A LOT? No. I try to avoid it unless it's going to actually shine truth on something or bless someone. To just put someone down is pointless. 8. DO YOU STILL HAVE YOUR TONSILS? Say ahhhh 9. WOULD YOU BUNGEE JUMP? No, (heard it can damage your spine.) 10. WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE CEREAL? Coco pops - but I try to only eat them as a snack 11. DO YOU UNTIE YOUR SHOES WHEN YOU TAKE THEM OFF? Yep 12. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE STRONG? With God behind me, I'm invincible - apart from that, it varies. 13. WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE ICE CREAM? Anthing with caramel swirls, chocolate bits and toffee/honeycomb pieces. 14. WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU NOTICE ABOUT PEOPLE? Their character 15. WINTER OR SUMMER? ** Winter 16. WHAT IS THE LEAST FAVORITE THING ABOUT YOURSELF? I'm human 17. WHAT DO YOU WEAR ABOUT THE HOUSE; SOX OR SLIPPERS.? Ug boots 18. WHAT WAS THE LAST THING YOU ATE? Rice crackers 19. WHAT ARE YOU LISTENING TO RIGHT NOW? The sound of the computer humming 20. IN TIME OF WAR WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GO? Depends on the war. 21. FAVORITE TRANSPORT? Small areoplane 22. DESK TOP OR PORTABLE? Desktop ** 23. EYE COLOUR? Hazel 24. FAVORITE EAT-OUT FOOD? Thai (without seafood) 25. DO YOU KILL WASPS? Depends if they're threatening 26. FAVOURITE PUDDING? Chocolate 27. WHAT BOOK ARE YOU READING NOW? Bible 28. WHAT IS ON YOUR MOUSE PAD? Using a laptop 29. FAVORITE SOUND? Gods voice 30. WHAT IS THE FARTHEST YOU HAVE BEEN FROM HOME? Korea 31. DO YOU HAVE A SPECIAL TALENT? A few 32. WHERE WERE YOU BORN? Country ><> ><> Thanks, I was pleased to see that you had picked up where I was coming from. Many people have missed the opportunity; when & If it presented itself, to ask loved one, those ageing in our families, the questions which then bug us for the rest of our lives.

><> .<> Sooooo you discount China . Wont that put you at a disadvantage at some point in time.???

><> ><> Perhaps there is a lesson in this situation. We have all/most! I'm afraid, been victims of some sort abuse. Dosen't it give us a measure of empathy & knowledgeable prayer pointers. But the hampering of the chains unforegiveness can be broken through the power of Christ at work in us.

From a Christian point of view I would say 'forgive as Christ forgave me.' Find that peace before thinking futher & creating a mountain of unforegiveness & hate.

If you were to create questions with the appropriate answers to give to your grand children or children for that matter. What of the following would you delete & what might you add to give them some of the answers to the questions that you may have wanted to ask of your relations but never got round to. ???? eg'S----> HERE ARE SOME OF MY ANSWERS TO WHET YOU APPETITES 8) DOES YOUR FAMILYS HISTORY AFFECT YOU OR YOR INTERESTS.? Yes. DNA & all that.HOW MANY NATIONALITIES IN YOU FAMILY TREE? 3-5 IF YOU HAVE PARENTS WHO ARE NO LONGER HERE, WHICH DO YOU MOST MISS.? Dad, I didn't get what I could have done from him. WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF THE LIVES OF YOUR GRANDPARENTS.? Nan was a nurse who met my G/father while he was in hospital, having been shot by a Boer in South Africa.He lost an arm & a couple of fingers. I 'played' with his hook & faules hand. WHAT OF YOUR CHARACTER WOULD YOU CHOOSE TO LEAVE WITH YOUR OFFSPRING.? A good head of hair, Tenacity. steadiness. A measure of peace. DO YOU HAVE CHARACTERISTIC SIMILAR TO YOUR PARENTS OR GRAND PARENTS.? Too casual like G/dad, move finger joints like dad, vindictive (In the past ) like Mum & G/ma. WHAT DO YOU SHARE INCOMMON WITH YOUR WIFE.? Nature, God stuff, Badminton, art, archaeology, fellowshiping, praise & worship. HOW MANY FRIENDS DO YOU HAVE.? A few, that I could share with, acquaintencies many. WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR EXTENDED FAMILY LIKE.? Poor I haven't made the effort to get to know those who are local even when I have a soft spot for them. WHAT OF LIFE'S CHALLENGES WOULD YOU HAVE AVOIDED.? Relational inadequacy in the early part of marriage. The sad ending tomy long term professional life. The 1/2 Luge at Calgary. ''Square bashing.'' WHY DID/DIDN'T YOU HAVE CHILDREN.? They were par-for-the-course. WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE DAY? The photographer, have more cash, change the reception, found out how it could be done better. WHO OUT SIDE OF YOUR FAMILY INFLUENCED YOU MOST.? Teacher how were enthusiastic about their own subjects, fair, firm, freindly & flexible work overseers. WHAT HOBBIES OR PAST TIMEs DO YOU HAVE? Badminton, Bonsai, Art, God stuff, Archaeology. WHAT REALLY RILES YOU ON A DAILY LEVEL.? Things left on the floor that could trip people up, things that wont stay in place after I shut the door on them. Bad lempered lady drivers. WERE YOU NAMED AFTER ANYONE? No, but I have used my middle name in the past. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU CRIED? In praise & worship a couple of weeks ago. DO YOU LIKE YOUR HANDWRITING? No that one of the best uses for the computer. WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE LUNCH MEAT? Chicken in any form. DO YOU HAVE KIDS? Two boys. IF YOU WERE ANOTHER PERSON WOULD YOU BE FRIENDS WITH YOU? No, I'm boring & impersonal. DO YOU USE SARCASM A LOT? A lot in the past ''taught'' through my Dad but mywife helped me overcome.; ) DO YOU STILL HAVE YOUR TONSILS? Nop. HOW MANY LANGUAGES DO YOU SPEAK? One fluently-English to basic level 'Good Morning, how are you'' in about 6. Numbers to 30 in German & French, to 7 in Chinese, 5 in italian. ( Smart- or what : ) ; ) WOULD YOU BUNGEE JUMP? No I need my backbone & it's nerves. I'm not a spider. WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE CEREAL? Puffed wheat. DO YOU UNTIE YOUR SHOES WHEN YOU TAKE THEM OFF? Not if I can help it. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE STRONG? For my age -yes. WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE ICE CREAM? Ginger, mango or maple & walnut. WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU NOTICE ABOUT PEOPLE? Body language. WINTER OR SUMMER? ** The 'or' part. WHAT IS THE LEAST FAVORITE THING ABOUT YOURSELF? Lack of tact in conversation, I butt in. WHAT DO YOU WARE ABOUT THE HOUSE; SOX OR SLIPPERS.? ** Either. WHAT WAS THE LAST THING YOU ATE? Biscuits with my coffee. WHAT ARE YOU LISTENING TO RIGHT NOW? Keys tapping. IN TIME OF WAR WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GO? ** No. FAVORITE TRANSPORT? ** Bike. (freedom) DESK TOP OR PORTABLE? ** Portable. EYE COLOUR? Hazel. FAVORITE EAT-OUT FOOD? Chinese. DO YOU KILL WASPS? ** Yes. WHERE WERE YOU BORN? South of London. UK. FAVORITE PUDDING? Toffee apple. WHAT BOOK ARE YOU READING NOW? Psalms. WHAT IS ON YOUR MOUSE PAD? Dell add. FAVORITE SOUND? Bees buzzing in a warm medow while planes fly overhead. Clock ticking while the coal fire crackles. (Shows my age)Steam over pebbles, tide breaking on the shore. WHAT IS THE FARTHEST YOU HAVE BEEN FROM HOME? 10,000. miles. East & 6000mls. West. DO YOU HAVE A SPECIAL TALENT? Art, Cooking & Bonsai. WHAT OF YOUR DISTANT PAST DO YOU REMEMBER.? The milk coming by the Dray to the front door & the measure being dipped to be then poured into Aunty's jug, to be covered with a piece of lace with beads on the edges to hold in down. Wire meshed larders to keep things cool.Coal & Rag & Bone men calling out as they came around the streets with their carts. Some of the W.W. 2.blitz. Sweets in paper cones, buying broken bicuits Fish & Chip served in news paper.Freedom to roam as a child Prisoners of war in the local park who had photos of their children.

4 overactive leaders .---> from UCB's ''The Word For Today''Aug. 30. Part B. '' If you are a leader, you'r particularly at risk. Don't sacrifice your family on the alter of your career or you'll end up with regrets you can't resolve. The son of a well known missionary stood at his dad's grave without shedding a tear. He told someone, ''You never miss what you never had. My dad loved people on the otherside of the world, but I'm not sure he loved me.'' Wake up! The clock is ticking & the days are flying by. Yes, you must fulfil your God-given assignment in life but not at the cost of the people who matter. Take a moment & think about these words; ''And Jonathon had David reaffirm his..love for him...Then Jonathon said to David..You will be missed, because your seat will be empty' 1 Sam. 20:17-18.

><> ><> We can also be aware; that even if some of our experiences in various church settings have not seemed too helpful, ( English understaement) we have been sitting under a word of God's.

><> ><> Maybe a question of lost time, lack of knowledge or experience, gifting, level of freedom in Christ or possibly teaching or training.