leoxiii Posted November 16, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 512 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/30/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/25/1955 Share Posted November 16, 2009 lekh -- If Rome represented "all nations" in A.D. 70, then Babylon represented all nations in 400 B.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lekh l'kha Posted November 16, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 830 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2009 lekh -- If Rome represented "all nations" in A.D. 70, then Babylon represented all nations in 400 B.C. Did God judge Babylon while its armies were attacking Jerusalem, or did Babylon continue as the greatest empire the world had ever known for decades longer? Did God judge Rome while its armies were attacking Jerusalem, or did Rome continue as the greatest empire the world had ever known for centuries longer? The prophecies state that the Jews would be scattered among the nations in the four corners of the earth - and Jesus repeated those prophecies (Luk.21: 24). This world-wide dispersion occcurred as a result of the Roman armies destroying Jerusalem in 70 A.D. The prophecies stated that the Jews would eventually be regathered into the land of their fathers following their world-wide dispersion, and during this time of regathering into the land of their fathers, Jerusalem would once again be attacked by the armies of all nations - it is THEN that God will judge the nations. In the Revelation it's called "the battle of that day, the great day of God Almighty" and "Armageddon". I know you want the prophecies of the Bible spirtualized so that you can claim the Church has replaced Israel, but your theology is a lie, and those at whose hand the Jews were slaughtered and tortured are going to pay - and that includes the Roman church. She's part of the great whore of Babylon which according to the Revelation is going to be destroyed with violence. Lekh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The animal sacrifices required by God in the OT provided atonement for the souls of sinners and they pointed forward to the perfect once-for-all sacrifice of Jesus Christ.That is true for certain sacrfices. The majority of sacrifices pertained to ritual and ceremonial purity. You are ignoring the plethora of biblical information and grossly oversimplifying the sacrificial system. Sacrifices were offered as burnt offerings in free-will worship, used to consecrate ritual items, to ritually purify the priests, were required for the dedication of infants, and so forth. None of that has anything to do with pointing forward to the cross. The sin offering was what pointed to Christ. The animal died in place of the sinner.Yes, in in the sin offering. That is not at issue in sacrifices that pertain to ceremonial/ritual purity. After Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I know you want the prophecies of the Bible spirtualized so that you can claim the Church has replaced Israel, but your theology is a lie, and those at whose hand the Jews were slaughtered and tortured are going to pay - and that includes the Roman church. You hit the nail on the head. Most of the resistance to the Temple of Ezekiel being literal, is that it speaks to the restoration of Israel which is documented in both Old and New Testaments. (Edited by moderator) theology holds to the view that the church is now Israel. That theology falls flat if God actually means "Israel" when he uses the term "Israel." (Edited by moderator) theology seeks to spiritualize Israel in order to facilitate Replacement Theology. (Edited by moderator) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The temple remains in ruins to this day. Any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 QUOTE (shiloh357 @ Nov 16 2009, 08:54 AM) You are misapplying that passage. Paul is comparing God with the pagan deitieis that required temples as dwellings. He is contrasting the omnipresence of God that cannot be contained in a temple with the gods of the pagans. Paul is not speaking against the Temple. Was Paul incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 There is no need for a future temporal temple with literal bloody animal sacrifices in some yet future age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 There is no need for a future temporal temple with literal bloody animal sacrifices in some yet future age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kross Posted November 16, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Christians live and die under the law of Christ today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lekh l'kha Posted November 16, 2009 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 830 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/14/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2009 Horizoneast, Let's leave Ezekiel's temple aside for a while - I never said anything to you about Ezekiel's temple in my last post directed to you - but you brought Ezekiel's temple and the sacrifices into your reply to me on the previous page. But let's talk about what you said below: The church of God is the Israel of God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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