Guest idied2 Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Man's will, man's choice, makes a great difference as to how this all plays out. Heb 4:3 although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. There is a dangerous doctrine in our day that teaches that God will not respond to sin once you are saved, and that is not true. There is another dangerous doctrine that makes eveything God's fault, God has no faults, and when judgment is exercised by the Lord, there are reasons why judgment falls this way or that way. Almost all doctrines today are dangerous. Like people going to heaven and rapture doctrine ect. Of corse there is no fault with or in GOD. But there will be wailing and knashing of teeth when those who think they are going into the kingdom are cast out. They will be waveing their fists and cursing The true GOD of heaven and earth right up to the time when the fire removes them from existance. And their problem was believing in the god that the devil made up for them. There are chosen out there that haven't woke up yet. The LORD will be waking them up until fortyfive days before his second comming. fortyfive days before the second comming, the door will be closed and no one else will be able to enter. By this scripture we know that it is not possible for CHRIST to lose anyone. Mt 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Mr 13:22 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Mr 13:20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days. Joh 6:39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idied2 Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 What is the difference between a few moments of denial in fear and cold blooded plotting to sell a person to be killed? You don't know the difference? If your neighbor slandered you by saying that you were rude, is that the same as the other neighbor that has you kidnapped and killed for money? There is no difference between a lier and a murderer in GODS sight. Re 21:27 But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Re 22:15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Almost all doctrines today are dangerous. Like people going to heaven and rapture doctrine ect. So you think people going to the heaven is a "dangerous" doctrine? Where did you come up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idied2 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 So you think people going to the heaven is a "dangerous" doctrine? Where did you come up with that? There is no scripture that says anyone is going to heaven. In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryt Posted September 20, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,230 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1952 Share Posted September 20, 2004 So you think people going to the heaven is a "dangerous" doctrine? Where did you come up with that? There is no scripture that says anyone is going to heaven. In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: Re 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. What about this one. It assumes men in heaven that could not opent the book. LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idied2 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 QUOTEÂ Re 5:3Â And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. What about this one. It assumes men in heaven that could not opent the book. LT Enoch was a man and he was translated as was elijah. Even they weren't worthy to open the seals rev 5:5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals." In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :t: :t: PRAISE GOD FOR JESUS CHRIST :t: :t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryt Posted September 20, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,230 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1952 Share Posted September 20, 2004 QUOTEÂ Re 5:3Â And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. What about this one. It assumes men in heaven that could not opent the book. LT Enoch was a man and he was translated as was elijah. Even they weren't worthy to open the seals rev 5:5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals." In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :t: :t: PRAISE GOD FOR JESUS CHRIST :t: :t: Then why didyou make the statement?There is no scripture that says anyone is going to heaven. LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idied2 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Then why didyou make the statement? Because it's true. In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryt Posted September 20, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,230 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1952 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Then why didyou make the statement? Because it's true. In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: But you contradict yourself by admitting that Enoch and Elijah are in heaven. LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest idied2 Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 There is no contradiction. Christ assended into heaven. Enoch and elijah were translated. Still there are no scriptures that say that anyone is going to heaven where they are. CHRIST didn't even tell HIS apostles that. HE told HIS apostles that HE would return here and those who are HIS will go up and meet him in the air here on earth. It's about the milineal reign of CHRIST in the kingdom of GOD. That will be here on the earth. Luke 17: 20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21 nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you In CHRIST JESUS :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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