eagleswings Posted March 28, 2010 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 613 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1959 Share Posted March 28, 2010 What Does it All Mean? By Jan Markell Olive Tree Ministries - www.olivetreeviews.org/ March 24. 2010 Home Emphasis added I believe I have studied under the best of the best teachers when it comes to what the Bible lays out for us in the last days. Many are dazed at the rapid decline of America. The passage of health care wasn't about health care; rather, the socialization of America. America just came under the power of Saul Alinsky. But some of us, while grieved, look at the broader picture. So, this is how I see it. Revelation, chapters 13 and 17, lays out a coming one-world political system, one-world leader, one-world religion, and a one-world financial system (cashless). We don't know when this will all be implemented, but we do know the biggest factor holding up the one-world order has been America, the superpower like no other. In the coming system, all nations will likely be "equal." That is, there will be no superpower other than, perhaps, the European Union -- a consortium of powerful European nations. Even some individual nations in Europe are crumbling as I write this so some of those nations will band together and become the end-time power. Economic chaos is likely to level the playing field of all the world's players on this strange chessboard. Economic chaos will also bring down China and Russia, although both seem to have major roles in the last days as they invade Israel, one in the Gog/Magog war and one in the Battle of Armageddon. Their empires and land mass are enormous. But the number one superpower has been America and now we see her imploding due to corrupt politics, greed, love of self, love of power, and the personification of the Bible verse that says, "The heart is more deceitful than all else and desperately wicked; who can understand it?" (Jeremiah 17:9) So the bottom line is that America has been the primary obstacle to the one-world system. We see the decline of the dollar which has been one of the major currencies for decades, yet it stands in the way of a one-world economic/financial system. Barack Obama and others say we are not a Christian nation, but that is nonsense because the church in America, in spite of its weaknesses today, stands in the way of the coming one-world religion. On the other hand, we have the apostate church in the U.S. which will go along with a one-world religion. As this is being written, there is an assault on everything Christian in America. It is to strip us of our godly heritage and rid the U.S. of as much Christianity as possible. This scenario is scripted in the Bible by the inference that as America didn't exist in Bible times: America has to diminish and Europe must rise. The man who could best bring this about promised America and the world "hope and change" and the uninformed bought it hook, line, and sinker. But Barack Obama is just one player in this global chess game. Nonetheless, he gave the world an image that he was the new "world leader" during the 2008 campaign. This is what the world longs for: A "man with a plan." There needs to be a one-world leader but it is not him. Capitalism must go and must be replaced by a socialized world. You say this will take decades. Look at what has happened in just over a year! So not only are we threatened from without by radical Islam, we are threatened from without and within by a group of intelligent globalists who are convincing America and the nations of the world that the only way to lasting world peace is the establishment of global government. And all nations will have to be equal for this to work efficiently. Globalists have no respect for the people who elected them; no respect for their office; no respect for the American Constitution; no respect for what it means to be entrusted by the people of any nation to serve in a high capacity. Their only maniacal goal is the consolidation of more money and power into the hands of the few in order to control and manipulate the entire world. This coming system is not some prophetically speculative or futuristic fairy tale, but a real world reality outlined in the Bible. It is not some whacko conspiracy theory being advanced by the fringe society. It's an orchestrated agenda which God had planned for before the foundations of the earth. But America has not made it possible for the globalists to get their agenda through until now. We see that through the corrupt-to-the-core Obama administration, they are pressing forward to the prize -- a one-world system with America subservient to the European Union. We just don't know the timing, nor the timing of the return of our "blessed hope" Who remains our only hope. Because so many feel a foolish one-world system is the answer for global unity, I feel the words of Isaiah 66:4 have been in play for several years: "I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spoke, they did not hear, but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not." God sent delusion and this is the result. He sent the delusion to fulfill His Word. It is strong delusion that is causing some Americans to stand behind globalists who will bring about a system outlined in the book of Revelation. Where one gets in trouble with this kind of theology and opinion is when it leads to an "I give up" mentality. Good people stop fighting evil. Some just roll over. Some go into complete apathy and escapism. Remember the profound statement by Edmund Burke: "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Just keep expectations realistic and Bible-focused. Now, what is the good news? We can only change the world by changing the spirituality of a culture. In the meantime, we can contend for the faith, preach the gospel, and be salt and light to a frightened world. And since all of the above are scripted, the final act is as well. We can know with certainty that the King of kings is coming back very soon. Right now some are wailing and calling this "escapist theology." Go ahead and wail. What is happening is in the "all these things must come to pass" (Matthew 24:6) category. We cannot stop such events. We cannot alter the way it is outlined in the Bible. If you have the proper eschatology, all that is happening makes perfect sense. If you follow the Pied Pipers of Amillennialism, Preterism, Replacement Theology, Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, and more, you will be lost in the maze of bizarre current events. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- See God's eternal, unchanging Word -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olive Tree Ministries, Inc. -- www.olivetreeviews.org/ Box 1452, Maple Grove, MN 55311 763-493-3010or 763-210-8291 Other articles by Jan Markell: Playtime for Kids and It's Called Divination There's No Power in This Blood! The Danger Behind Political Buzz Words We Ignore Why Perilous Times Are Now in Overdrive | Why the Left Is Not Right The Emergent Church Could Submerge Yours! | Silencing the Watchmen A Spreading Sickness | Wait -- the Outrage Isn't Over Inaugural Prayer to the God of Our Many Understandings! Wait -- the Outrage Isn't Over | Footprints of a Prophet or Tracks of a Wolf? Are Evangelical pulpits about to praise Islam? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Home - Articles - Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Praying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted March 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted March 28, 2010 This end of days stuff is to my mind, pointless drivel, but as people are wont to post differing opinions from so many different "preachers", let me add mine to the "pot" - "Salvation is a theme for which I would fain enlist every holy tongue. I am greedy after witnesses for the glorious gospel of the blessed God. O that Christ crucified were the universal burden of men of God. Your guess at the number of the beast, your Napoleonic speculations, your conjectures concerning a personal Antichrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaright Posted March 28, 2010 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/18/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/28/1950 Share Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) What Does it All Mean? By Jan Markell Olive Tree Ministries - www.olivetreeviews.org/ March 24. 2010 Home Emphasis added I believe I have studied under the best of the best teachers when it comes to what the Bible lays out for us in the last days. Many are dazed at the rapid decline of America. The passage of health care wasn't about health care; rather, the socialization of America. America just came under the power of Saul Alinsky. But some of us, while grieved, look at the broader picture. So, this is how I see it. Revelation, chapters 13 and 17, lays out a coming one-world political system, one-world leader, one-world religion, and a one-world financial system (cashless). We don't know when this will all be implemented, but we do know the biggest factor holding up the one-world order has been America, the superpower like no other. In the coming system, all nations will likely be "equal." That is, there will be no superpower other than, perhaps, the European Union -- a consortium of powerful European nations. Even some individual nations in Europe are crumbling as I write this so some of those nations will band together and become the end-time power. Economic chaos is likely to level the playing field of all the world's players on this strange chessboard. Economic chaos will also bring down China and Russia, although both seem to have major roles in the last days as they invade Israel, one in the Gog/Magog war and one in the Battle of Armageddon. Their empires and land mass are enormous. But the number one superpower has been America and now we see her imploding due to corrupt politics, greed, love of self, love of power, and the personification of the Bible verse that says, "The heart is more deceitful than all else and desperately wicked; who can understand it?" (Jeremiah 17:9) So the bottom line is that America has been the primary obstacle to the one-world system. We see the decline of the dollar which has been one of the major currencies for decades, yet it stands in the way of a one-world economic/financial system. Barack Obama and others say we are not a Christian nation, but that is nonsense because the church in America, in spite of its weaknesses today, stands in the way of the coming one-world religion. On the other hand, we have the apostate church in the U.S. which will go along with a one-world religion. As this is being written, there is an assault on everything Christian in America. It is to strip us of our godly heritage and rid the U.S. of as much Christianity as possible. This scenario is scripted in the Bible by the inference that as America didn't exist in Bible times: America has to diminish and Europe must rise. The man who could best bring this about promised America and the world "hope and change" and the uninformed bought it hook, line, and sinker. But Barack Obama is just one player in this global chess game. Nonetheless, he gave the world an image that he was the new "world leader" during the 2008 campaign. This is what the world longs for: A "man with a plan." There needs to be a one-world leader but it is not him. Capitalism must go and must be replaced by a socialized world. You say this will take decades. Look at what has happened in just over a year! So not only are we threatened from without by radical Islam, we are threatened from without and within by a group of intelligent globalists who are convincing America and the nations of the world that the only way to lasting world peace is the establishment of global government. And all nations will have to be equal for this to work efficiently. Globalists have no respect for the people who elected them; no respect for their office; no respect for the American Constitution; no respect for what it means to be entrusted by the people of any nation to serve in a high capacity. Their only maniacal goal is the consolidation of more money and power into the hands of the few in order to control and manipulate the entire world. This coming system is not some prophetically speculative or futuristic fairy tale, but a real world reality outlined in the Bible. It is not some whacko conspiracy theory being advanced by the fringe society. It's an orchestrated agenda which God had planned for before the foundations of the earth. But America has not made it possible for the globalists to get their agenda through until now. We see that through the corrupt-to-the-core Obama administration, they are pressing forward to the prize -- a one-world system with America subservient to the European Union. We just don't know the timing, nor the timing of the return of our "blessed hope" Who remains our only hope. Because so many feel a foolish one-world system is the answer for global unity, I feel the words of Isaiah 66:4 have been in play for several years: "I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spoke, they did not hear, but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not." God sent delusion and this is the result. He sent the delusion to fulfill His Word. It is strong delusion that is causing some Americans to stand behind globalists who will bring about a system outlined in the book of Revelation. Where one gets in trouble with this kind of theology and opinion is when it leads to an "I give up" mentality. Good people stop fighting evil. Some just roll over. Some go into complete apathy and escapism. Remember the profound statement by Edmund Burke: "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Just keep expectations realistic and Bible-focused. Now, what is the good news? We can only change the world by changing the spirituality of a culture. In the meantime, we can contend for the faith, preach the gospel, and be salt and light to a frightened world. And since all of the above are scripted, the final act is as well. We can know with certainty that the King of kings is coming back very soon. Right now some are wailing and calling this "escapist theology." Go ahead and wail. What is happening is in the "all these things must come to pass" (Matthew 24:6) category. We cannot stop such events. We cannot alter the way it is outlined in the Bible. If you have the proper eschatology, all that is happening makes perfect sense. If you follow the Pied Pipers of Amillennialism, Preterism, Replacement Theology, Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, and more, you will be lost in the maze of bizarre current events. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- See God's eternal, unchanging Word -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olive Tree Ministries, Inc. -- www.olivetreeviews.org/ Box 1452, Maple Grove, MN 55311 763-493-3010or 763-210-8291 Other articles by Jan Markell: Playtime for Kids and It's Called Divination There's No Power in This Blood! The Danger Behind Political Buzz Words We Ignore Why Perilous Times Are Now in Overdrive | Why the Left Is Not Right The Emergent Church Could Submerge Yours! | Silencing the Watchmen A Spreading Sickness | Wait -- the Outrage Isn't Over Inaugural Prayer to the God of Our Many Understandings! Wait -- the Outrage Isn't Over | Footprints of a Prophet or Tracks of a Wolf? Are Evangelical pulpits about to praise Islam? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Home - Articles - Victory I've read and heard many end times stories that depict the ways of the world as being evil. I carefully considered these things and waited on the Holy Spirit to teach me what this means. It was given to me to understand on a personal plain. It was so short and to the point that the understanding startled me into doing as the Lord has commanded us when He said, "Follow Me." You heard the calling of the Word of God, and you believed. You realized as you spoke the words of repentance; Your clothes were nothing more than filthy rages, despicable, deserving His wrath. When you came to Him, asking for His mercy, He forgave you, and counted you in the census of His people; Even as one of His own. Then you turned, looked and pointed outwardly into the world and said, See what evil there is in the world! Edited March 28, 2010 by yaright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted March 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.91 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted March 28, 2010 It all ends the same way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsomebulldog Posted March 28, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 732 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 113 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/26/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/30/1971 Share Posted March 28, 2010 End times "revelations" are primarily speculations, and as such don't warrant a vast deal of my devotion. I think I understand the point you're trying to make, though. There are plenty of people out there who are worried sick about what they see going on around them. Even Christians can fall into that trap. When, as you've said, it's all been pre-written and pre-determined, which means there is absolutely no reason to panic or fret yourself silly. Not to mention the fact that God has promised, repeatedly, that He would protect His children. I do find some "mental" satisfaction in watching/reading/studying opinions about the end times. I just don't devote a lot of time to it because, as someone else mentioned earlier, it's of little real spiritual value in the grand scheme of things. Jesus is the ONLY way and that's what our most important message ought to be. It's a shame, though, that so much of the church has abandoned that necessary truth for a more socially palatable message of "love, compassion, and prosperity." The only thing I can't seem to stop thinking about is where it is all going to lead us. I sometimes wonder how long God will leave us here and how uncomfortable it might get before He finally takes us out of here. Will we come to a place where it's not just unpopular, but unlawful to gather in churches or to read the Bible? I hope not, but I can see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 We can only change the world by changing the spirituality of a culture. In the meantime, we can contend for the faith, preach the gospel, and be salt and light to a frightened world. Acts 19:23-41 goes right along with the bolded sentence. So many got saved in Ephesus that it caused a riot. Peoples hearts were changed by the Gospel, and their behavior changed as a result. The only way to change a culture is with the Gospel one person at a time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Mind1Spirit Posted March 29, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 110 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/29/1961 Share Posted March 29, 2010 This end of days stuff is to my mind, pointless drivel, but as people are wont to post differing opinions from so many different "preachers", let me add mine to the "pot" - "Salvation is a theme for which I would fain enlist every holy tongue. I am greedy after witnesses for the glorious gospel of the blessed God. O that Christ crucified were the universal burden of men of God. Your guess at the number of the beast, your Napoleonic speculations, your conjectures concerning a personal Antichrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleswings Posted March 29, 2010 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 613 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1959 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 This end of days stuff is to my mind, pointless drivel, but as people are wont to post differing opinions from so many different "preachers", let me add mine to the "pot" - "Salvation is a theme for which I would fain enlist every holy tongue. I am greedy after witnesses for the glorious gospel of the blessed God. O that Christ crucified were the universal burden of men of God. Your guess at the number of the beast, your Napoleonic speculations, your conjectures concerning a personal Antichrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts