Bold Believer Posted December 11, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 What the heck is a 'magogist'? It's a term I use to describe the humanist/one-worldists who constantly attack Christianity. It comes from Revelation 20. I certainly know what a humanist is, but what view is it that constitutes a 'one-worldist', and what does the 'Gog and Magog' mention in Revelation 20 have to do with that? Are you simply coining new words to denote unbelievers? One worldists want just that: one planet. No boundaries. World citizenship, global economy. Magogists take it a step further; they want to eradicate religion. ALL of them, but first, Christianity in all of its forms. This is what Rev 20 tells us will occur, and it IS doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted December 11, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted December 11, 2011 What the heck is a 'magogist'? It's a term I use to describe the humanist/one-worldists who constantly attack Christianity. It comes from Revelation 20. I certainly know what a humanist is, but what view is it that constitutes a 'one-worldist', and what does the 'Gog and Magog' mention in Revelation 20 have to do with that? Are you simply coining new words to denote unbelievers? One worldists want just that: one planet. No boundaries. World citizenship, global economy. Magogists take it a step further; they want to eradicate religion. ALL of them, but first, Christianity in all of its forms. This is what Rev 20 tells us will occur, and it IS doing so. Really? Where is it said in Revelation 20 that it will happen now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 11, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.93 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I can only speak for myself. When I hated God, He love me. The reason so many people are angry by "Christianity" is because of what some forms of the church (individuals) have done to people... Show them God by His love. It's easy to get caught up in things that don't matter. We all do. Peace in Christ Hi! Welcome to the Board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted December 11, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 What the heck is a 'magogist'? It's a term I use to describe the humanist/one-worldists who constantly attack Christianity. It comes from Revelation 20. I certainly know what a humanist is, but what view is it that constitutes a 'one-worldist', and what does the 'Gog and Magog' mention in Revelation 20 have to do with that? Are you simply coining new words to denote unbelievers? One worldists want just that: one planet. No boundaries. World citizenship, global economy. Magogists take it a step further; they want to eradicate religion. ALL of them, but first, Christianity in all of its forms. This is what Rev 20 tells us will occur, and it IS doing so. Really? Where is it said in Revelation 20 that it will happen now? It of course all depends on how you understand the the thousand years of Rev 20. IF you understand the millennium as the time when the Gospel went out to the nations and MEssiah ruled over eaerth from heaven, then you see how Rev 20 is going on now. If you see the millennium as some Golden Age that occurs after the Second Coming (which would result in the THIRD coming at the end of it, a concept foreign to Scripture), then you will believe differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted December 11, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 11, 2011 What the heck is a 'magogist'? It's a term I use to describe the humanist/one-worldists who constantly attack Christianity. It comes from Revelation 20. I certainly know what a humanist is, but what view is it that constitutes a 'one-worldist', and what does the 'Gog and Magog' mention in Revelation 20 have to do with that? Are you simply coining new words to denote unbelievers? One worldists want just that: one planet. No boundaries. World citizenship, global economy. Magogists take it a step further; they want to eradicate religion. ALL of them, but first, Christianity in all of its forms. This is what Rev 20 tells us will occur, and it IS doing so. Really? Where is it said in Revelation 20 that it will happen now? It of course all depends on how you understand the the thousand years of Rev 20. IF you understand the millennium as the time when the Gospel went out to the nations and MEssiah ruled over eaerth from heaven, then you see how Rev 20 is going on now. If you see the millennium as some Golden Age that occurs after the Second Coming (which would result in the THIRD coming at the end of it, a concept foreign to Scripture), then you will believe differently. If you understand that a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day to the and with the Lord then you have no serious problem with a Millenial Reign after the second coming. You also don't have to hold to Pre-Terism nor a scriputrally unheard of Pre-Tribulation rapture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted December 11, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted December 11, 2011 It of course all depends on how you understand the the thousand years of Rev 20. IF you understand the millennium as the time when the Gospel went out to the nations and MEssiah ruled over eaerth from heaven, then you see how Rev 20 is going on now. If you see the millennium as some Golden Age that occurs after the Second Coming (which would result in the THIRD coming at the end of it, a concept foreign to Scripture), then you will believe differently. The Millennium has yet to come. Scripture is clear. There is no third coming, seeing as Jesus will still be here at the end of it already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Clay Posted December 27, 2011 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/29/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2011 It of course all depends on how you understand the the thousand years of Rev 20. IF you understand the millennium as the time when the Gospel went out to the nations and MEssiah ruled over eaerth from heaven, then you see how Rev 20 is going on now. If you see the millennium as some Golden Age that occurs after the Second Coming (which would result in the THIRD coming at the end of it, a concept foreign to Scripture), then you will believe differently. The Millennium has yet to come. Scripture is clear. There is no third coming, seeing as Jesus will still be here at the end of it already! Yea FA - Interesting how BB sorta slipped that in there parenthetically ... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted December 28, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 It of course all depends on how you understand the the thousand years of Rev 20. IF you understand the millennium as the time when the Gospel went out to the nations and MEssiah ruled over eaerth from heaven, then you see how Rev 20 is going on now. If you see the millennium as some Golden Age that occurs after the Second Coming (which would result in the THIRD coming at the end of it, a concept foreign to Scripture), then you will believe differently. The Millennium has yet to come. Scripture is clear. There is no third coming, seeing as Jesus will still be here at the end of it already! Yea FA - Interesting how BB sorta slipped that in there parenthetically ... ! I put it there deliberately. Messiah rules over earth but HE does so FROM heaven. He is seated upon the throne of David. HE will not return until the restoration of all things (Acts). So then, if all things are restored at the 2d Coming, why have a Millennium? If you understand as I do that the millennium is not what some have made it out to be, but instead the Reign of Christ over earth from heaven, then there IS no third coming. Everything that occurs in Rev 20 IS the 2d coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted December 28, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It of course all depends on how you understand the the thousand years of Rev 20. IF you understand the millennium as the time when the Gospel went out to the nations and MEssiah ruled over eaerth from heaven, then you see how Rev 20 is going on now. If you see the millennium as some Golden Age that occurs after the Second Coming (which would result in the THIRD coming at the end of it, a concept foreign to Scripture), then you will believe differently. The Millennium has yet to come. Scripture is clear. There is no third coming, seeing as Jesus will still be here at the end of it already! Yea FA - Interesting how BB sorta slipped that in there parenthetically ... ! I put it there deliberately. Messiah rules over earth but HE does so FROM heaven. He is seated upon the throne of David. HE will not return until the restoration of all things (Acts). So then, if all things are restored at the 2d Coming, why have a Millennium? If you understand as I do that the millennium is not what some have made it out to be, but instead the Reign of Christ over earth from heaven, then there IS no third coming. Everything that occurs in Rev 20 IS the 2d coming. Jesus Christ is not seated upon the throne of David. All things will be restored during His Millennial Reign, which ensues immediately upon the Lord's Second Coming, and will see Jesus taking the literal throne of David, ruling out of Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anitarose Posted December 28, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 65 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,066 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/15/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1961 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I really hate to bring levity to such a serious topic...however...I was going to ask what maggots had to do with Christianity...then I re-read it....I guess that's what I get for computing without my glasses on... a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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