nebula Posted January 21, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The Jewish Roots of Christianity Judaism and Christianity: Two spiritual points of view, seemingly worlds apart, yet sharing a common city, story, and Messianic hope. Discover the rich heritage of the Christian faith, which is grounded in the same Old Testament Scriptures as Judaism, and deepen your own understanding of the Scriptures. Join us as we venture into the Jewish roots of Christianity. See and hear Mart De Haan’s enlightening conversations with people who understand the story behind the history— Messianic Jews and Bible scholars who review the context and first beliefs about Jesus and His followers. You’ll deepen your understanding of the Christian faith when you discover its origins. Part 1: The origin of Baptism, the Jew-Gentile conflict, the Lord's Supper http://www.dod.org/Products/DOD2151.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzdy Posted January 21, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 173 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,911 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/21/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2012 Just wanted to say it is not Jewish roots but Hebrew roots. Talking with a rabbi on the Torah portions this week and as he was relaying how the Jews were in the desert I asked him what happened to the other 11 tribes. That turned into a great convo where he did say that there were no 'Jews' until the split of the kingdom, that he thinks the only reason everything is 'Jewish' is because it was really on 'Judah' and or Judeans. As we went along into talking he left off everything Jewish and refered to Hebrews because as he said God did not call Jews but Israel out of the Egypt and it is Israel regathered that He will bring into the kingdom. I thought that was one of the most amazing things I have heard in a long time. shalom Mizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisMindinme Posted January 22, 2012 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 255 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/08/1963 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Just wanted to say it is not Jewish roots but Hebrew roots. Talking with a rabbi on the Torah portions this week and as he was relaying how the Jews were in the desert I asked him what happened to the other 11 tribes. That turned into a great convo where he did say that there were no 'Jews' until the split of the kingdom, that he thinks the only reason everything is 'Jewish' is because it was really on 'Judah' and or Judeans. As we went along into talking he left off everything Jewish and refered to Hebrews because as he said God did not call Jews but Israel out of the Egypt and it is Israel regathered that He will bring into the kingdom. I thought that was one of the most amazing things I have heard in a long time. shalom Mizz Excellent and insightful point! Thank you for sharing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I don't recognize a distinction Jews are hebrews are israel are the circumcision are the elect are the chosen people are Jacob in the bible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted January 22, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2012 I don't recognize a distinction Jews are hebrews are israel are the circumcision are the elect are the chosen people are Jacob in the bible Because prior to the exile, not all Hebrews were Jews (from the tribe of Judah). The tribe of Judah was just a subset. These days people use the terms as if they are interchangeable, but clearly there was a time in history when they were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Just wanted to say it is not Jewish roots but Hebrew roots. Talking with a rabbi on the Torah portions this week and as he was relaying how the Jews were in the desert I asked him what happened to the other 11 tribes. That turned into a great convo where he did say that there were no 'Jews' until the split of the kingdom, that he thinks the only reason everything is 'Jewish' is because it was really on 'Judah' and or Judeans. As we went along into talking he left off everything Jewish and refered to Hebrews because as he said God did not call Jews but Israel out of the Egypt and it is Israel regathered that He will bring into the kingdom. I thought that was one of the most amazing things I have heard in a long time. shalom Mizz Historically and culturally the roots are Jewish and Hebraic. All of the customs related to the Sabbath, Passover, Rosh Hashanna, etc. come from the Jews and date back to just before the 1st century, long after the Jews returned to the Land after the Babylonian exile. They are Hebraic in that we are also the Seed of Abraham, but Jews don't make this false dichotomy between Jews and Hebrews. That is a more modern and very Gentile distinction. It seems that Gentiles who desparately want to be included in Israel made up the whole "Hebrew roots" thing so that they could be included ethnically in Israel since they cannot claim any Jewish ethnicity. I don't recognize a distinction Jews are hebrews are israel are the circumcision are the elect are the chosen people are Jacob in the bible I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 clearly there was a time in history when they were not. But that was thousands of years ago....for a very short time relatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted January 22, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2012 clearly there was a time in history when they were not. But that was thousands of years ago....for a very short time relatively. Sure... though I don't know how that works with the northern tribes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 clearly there was a time in history when they were not. But that was thousands of years ago....for a very short time relatively. Sure... though I don't know how that works with the northern tribes? Don't know how "what" works? Do you know that all those tribes have been found? They are in the east from Assyria to india. Seems like we are approaching the time when they will all be restored to their land....it's not Florida. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted January 22, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2012 I understand they have been found, I just don't understand why we ever adopted a naming policy where the Northern Kingdom were identified by the name of the Southern Kingdom??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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