year2027 Posted February 9, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 31 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 God first thanks chloe_fantastic and MorningGlory yes they are on the same ground as we are needing be save with love and a holy kiss Roy thanks Arthur Durnan Jesus Christ for all God gives us room to be anything with love and a holy kiss Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldShep Posted February 10, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 934 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 137 Days Won: 6 Joined: 07/20/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/12/1950 Share Posted February 10, 2012 God first thanks Dennis than you no problem with Atheists or homosexuals not judging them but loving where they are Now I not homosexual or Atheism loving your enemy no matter what or who they are with love and a holy kiss Roy Yes, God First You are wrong Sir, for I do judge men. It is because I Love them that I judge them, as I judge myself so that I may resist evil. { I fail many times } Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Love the man Hate the sin Luk_12:57 "Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right? ICL~~Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Amen~! Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalms 1:1-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Tolerating sin, condoning sin is the bain of the "Church" and why many denominations are telling lies and selling ignorance - apostasy. Sure, we are to love the sinner while hating the sin, but if we are silent about the sin, if we do not point out the sinfulness of the individuals (everyone's) actions, then we cannot lead them to the Cross (or back into fellowship with the Lord). Where is the love of Christ in that? Edited February 10, 2012 by Parker1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
year2027 Posted February 10, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 31 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 God first thanks Dennis and fresnoJoe and Parker1 Dennis - judgement is for God only and we judge ourself not others is the meaning of Luke 12:57 yes we judge ourself fresnoJoe Bless it is the man that see's his own weakness Parker1 - we lead by love knowing we are in the same boat with love and a holy kiss Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldShep Posted February 12, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 934 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 137 Days Won: 6 Joined: 07/20/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/12/1950 Share Posted February 12, 2012 God first thanks Dennis and fresnoJoe and Parker1 Dennis - judgement is for God only and we judge ourself not others is the meaning of Luke 12:57 yes we judge ourself fresnoJoe Bless it is the man that see's his own weakness Parker1 - we lead by love knowing we are in the same boat with love and a holy kiss Roy God is still First. 2027, You say judgement is for God only, yet Jesus instructs us to beware of False prophets, How do we do this without judging their works and their Fruit? Mat_10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. {Is not judgement needed to identify these wolves} Those who do not use good judgement, may very well fall in with those who do evil, least they Judge what is right before hand. What keeps you from hanging out with, murders, drug addicts, people that steal, people that molest children, having sex with the same sex? {Are you not making some kind of judgement so that you will not become a member of the Wolf pack? } Pro_10:13 Wisdom is found on the lips of the discerning, but a rod is for the back of him who lacks judgment. ICL~~~Dennis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
year2027 Posted February 12, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 31 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 God first thanks Dennis its not about law I must by but it is about the image of love what image do you see with judgement A Godly judge that fare to all but hate to some that not the love of God no wonder there are Atheists some do not know what is love Jesus Christ taught us to love all even our enemies are so busy judging others that find reason to love Jesus Christ taught to look at ourself and take the bean out of our own eye one cannot judge others until they have judge them self first because I can point many fingers at you or myself with love and a holy kiss Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted February 12, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.08 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 12, 2012 no wonder there are Atheists some do not know what is love Do you think atheists do not know what love is? That is a bold statement. Thanks for the uppercase, I guess... Ciao -viole Atheists are able to love, yes; in a worldly sense, they love their families and friends. I believe the OP is talking about loving God and loving one's enemies even though they don't seem worthy of that (forgive me if I'm wrong, 2027). I've yet to see an atheist who loves his/her enemies, viole. That only comes through a relationship with the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
year2027 Posted February 12, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 31 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) God first thanks viole and MorningGlory we Claim God is love so an Atheist has no love or am Atheist does you can not have it both ways Atheist is a person that does not believe in power of God but if one does believe something realm does become less real NO it does not what is real I can not change nor you can nor an atheist can we are stuck with this world and we will be stuck with the next we are taught that God is Love and to love one another no matter what even they are our enemy we are our biggest enemy with love and a holy kiss Roy Edited February 12, 2012 by year2027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted February 12, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The topic of Love and Discrimination has to be in the top 5 most misunderstood topics of the bible by far. God is Love, but Love is not God because God has many other attributes that govern his Love such as his Righteousness, Justice, Mercy and Grace. Discrimination is known in the bible as "Respect of persons" which God does not do and nor should we. We ought to offer the Gospel of salvation to the rich and the poor without making them sit in different sections in the assembly. Now if one of them happens to be openly in sin, such as fornication, we are to give them over to Satan for the punishment of the flesh that the soul may be saved in that day. Jesus went out and ate with sinners of all kinds for the purpose of preaching the kingdom of God and calling them to repentance or their sin so that they might turn toward God. Purging out the old leaven is not discrimination, nor is it unloving as it may lead to the persons salvation. Holding your arms wide open daily in fellowship with someone who openly sins is sin in and of itself and not loving as both will come into judgment. Examples of true love found in the bible are: Jesus saying to Peter "Get behind me Satan!" Paul withstanding Peter to the face over being a hypocrite. Jesus laying down his life for the sheep. Accepting someone who is 'weak' in the faith but not in sin. Bearing anothers burden by not partaking in lawful things that might cause him to stumble. Casting out the fornicating sinner from your assembly only to find that he becomes repentant later. Warning people against being a pig or a dog, one who wallows in the mud after being washed or returns to their old vomit. You see, God is Love, so anything you do that directs people into becoming more like God is Loving Them. Sometimes it doesn't sound or look real pretty by human moral standards that question Gods ways, but it is necessary if we are to 'wash the feet' of our brothers in Christ. In Jesus Name, Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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