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He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

2 thess 2:4

Just curiouse, what do you believe will happen? Do you think there will be a temple? I think maybe, but not entirely necessary. I think the jews will start sacrifices though. Apparently they are already practicing and using live animals to sacrifice.

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"Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abomination shall be one who makes desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate." (Daniel 9:27)

The "he" is Messiah. Messiah the Prince. Jesus' earthly was how long? 3.5 years. Then he was cut off in the midst of the week. He also brought sacrifice and offering to an end because HIS BLOOD IS BETTER THAN THAT OF BULLS AND GOATS.

The abomination is the bloodguilt of Israel (most specifically their leaders: see Matt 22,23). The one who makes desolate is the Roman Army (with the permission of God). The desolate is apostate Israel. The consummation or end is their destruction as foretold by Moses in Deuteronomy 28, because they chose the curse over the blessing.

There isn't going to be a third temple. God has his Third Temple: Believers. Jesus is the cornerstone, we are the remaining stones and we form a house made without hands. God is spirit.

I urge you stop believing the newspaper and the internet and read the Scripture.

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could not get this yellow off.

Yea I know, that is annoying with the software upgrade on the boards. But there is a way.

Copy what you want to paste on the forum. Then put it in notepad (assuming you have microsoft windows/office software). The copy from notepad onto the forums. It will come out like this:

could not get this yellow off.

See. All fixed.

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To make it easier for others to read, I fixed his post.

To All

This is from a survilist group; Read the last porton:

Buy a shotgun and learn how to use it. Buy plenty of double-ought buckshot ammunition. Buy a "22" rifle because the ammunition is so cheap. A Marlin Model 60, "22" rifle will sell for about $160.00; and a box containing 550 rounds of "22" long rifle, hollow point ammunition will sell at Wal-Mart for about $16.00 a box. If
YOU
are attacked, if
YOU
don't feel morally right in defending
YOURSELF
or
YOUR
family, then don't use the gun. If
YOU
are presently debating with
YOURSELF
concerning this defensive concept, then "kick the can" of intellectual debate with
YOURSELF
into the future; but
ACQUIRE THE DEFENSIVE EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW
. When the crisis comes,
YOUR
intellectual struggle with
YOURSELF
will instantly go away, and
YOU
will know what to do.

3. WATER - YOU will NOT be able to store enough water to supply the requirements of YOU and YOUR family for 42 months. YOU must have an in-place, energy-free functioning well, or be close to a water source!

4. FOOD - IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE EXPONENTIALLY MORE THAN "THREE CASES OF CANNED GREEN BEANS" IN ORDER TO SURVIVE 42 MONTHS! This is a link to instructions for procurement of dehydrated food. Ask God how YOU may acquire the financial resources in order to purchase food. STOP wasting the resources that God has already given YOU. Prioritize the value of YOUR resources, and sell resources that YOU don't need. Plant a garden.

Getting YOUR family together on December 21, 2012 should be relatively easy to accomplish, as it will be the Christmas season, and most people should be able to get off work. If YOU are in the United States of America and cannot get off work, then quit work, as in most areas, YOUR job will not exist following December 21, 2012.

If YOU own land in a rural area, or have the ability to purchase land in a rural area, prepare YOUR land for the influx of people that YOU will be able to care for. Like Esther, YOU may have been given YOUR resources, for this effort, at this exact time.

Esther 4:14 (NIV) "For if you remain silent at this time, relief and deliverance for the Jews will arise from another place, but you and your father's family will perish. And who knows but that you have come to royal position for such a time as this?"

Advise YOUR family and YOUR loved ones of the availability of YOUR land, and that they are welcome to join YOU. Request YOUR family and YOUR loved ones to assist YOU in making preparations NOW. Create a comprehensive plan; plan the work of YOUR preparation, work YOUR plan. Make a checklist of everything that YOU will need, including YOUR Holy Bible, guns and ammunition for security, water, food, extra medical supplies, extra eye glasses, thermally comfortable shelter, bedding/air mattresses, flashlights, extra batteries, a system of waste disposal, and if possible, a "ham" or satellite radio. All of the information and products are readily available by request on "google.com"

God's perfect order must be established in YOUR sanctuary, and maintained as close to perfection as is possible, for the mutual benefit of all participants!

If God's perfect order is not established, and maintained in YOUR sanctuary, the disorder/chaos that will occur because of the free-will of man, will be to the detriment of all participants!

Looks like we are to kill our fellow man to keep our food supply. A lot of good scripture, but what they peddle goes against what we are taught in the NT. Forgive 7 times 70, Give to those who are needy.

Another Harold Camping senerio. No one is following Syria, their leader has no power, wheres the false prophet. This is a false alarm. Looks like a buy it from me before it is too late.

In Christ

Montana Marv

could not get this yellow off.

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"Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abomination shall be one who makes desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate." (Daniel 9:27)

The "he" is Messiah. Messiah the Prince. Jesus' earthly was how long? 3.5 years. Then he was cut off in the midst of the week. He also brought sacrifice and offering to an end because HIS BLOOD IS BETTER THAN THAT OF BULLS AND GOATS.

The abomination is the bloodguilt of Israel (most specifically their leaders: see Matt 22,23). The one who makes desolate is the Roman Army (with the permission of God). The desolate is apostate Israel. The consummation or end is their destruction as foretold by Moses in Deuteronomy 28, because they chose the curse over the blessing.

There isn't going to be a third temple. God has his Third Temple: Believers. Jesus is the cornerstone, we are the remaining stones and we form a house made without hands. God is spirit.

I urge you stop believing the newspaper and the internet and read the Scripture.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NIV) Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

See, antichrist will come in claiming to be God and then the tribulation starts. The true Lord will come down from the clouds with a loud shout, all eyes will see. The JEWS believe the antichrist is the massiah, and so do the muslims.

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There is a 2nd coming where Jesus will come down from heaven and we will all meet him in the sky after the rapture. That is what the bible says.

I Thessalonians 4:16 - 17: For
Yahweh
himself, with a cry of command, with the archangel's call and with the sound of Elohim's trumpet, will descend from heaven, and the dead in Messiah will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet Yahweh in the air; and so we will be with Yahweh forever.
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