amor Posted October 27, 2004 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2004 (edited) So...does that mean that no one reads Shakespeare because he might have been gay? Or Walt Whitman? Should we not read Dylan Thomas because he was a drunk/pub-crawler? If we discounted everything having to do with this described "debauchery" then we've lost everything from Elton John to Edgar Allen Poe. No Chaucer (sex, drunkenness, homosexuality), no Marquez (incest, "witchcraft," promiscuity)...and God knows, no Grateful Dead. I mean, really. I guess now would be the time to mention that I don't QUITE put homosexuality in the same category as heroin usage. PS: Happy post #420, me! And losing these things would hurt the world in what way?? Ever wonder why the world is so messed up today? One reason is because we get so accustomed to sin that it seems cool or intellectual. I see no reason to glorify sin as needed any longer. PS: Happy 420?? Hmmmm.....want to explain why THAT number is so special?? t. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> these is the same mindset as that of the Taliban. Edited October 27, 2004 by amor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted October 28, 2004 these is the same mindset as that of the Taliban. You mean the same Taliban I just spent 9 months fighting? Thanks for the insult, but the difference is, this is just my opinion and people can feel free to do what ever they want. I'll take up arms to defend that. In fact, already did. The Taliban would simply wipe you or me out for what we are writing now. God gives us the free will to either buy that garbage (meaning the book in question at the top of the thread) or to not buy it. I choose not to. That's all. No need to read into my response any more than that. Cozy on up to the worlds most attractive sins, but Iv'e left it behind. I soaked it up for 34 years and the only thing good about it is the ability to see through it now. Try to reason to yourself that it's ok, that's your choice. Mine too, until I was led away from it. Have a good day! t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgesbluegirl Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,234 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1987 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I repeat my earlier question again...if one says that a "good Christian" should avoid all sinful literature, doesn't that then stifle the brains God gave us? Imagine what the world would be without literature, Shakespeare, Hemingway, Socrates...besides, often the things immediately tagged as "sinful" are there to teach us something about the story and/or characters, like the incest in One Hundred Years of Solitude. For example. As for my number reference...you spend enough time in high school, you begin to react every time those numbers pop up. Sigh. It just becomes habit after a while, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndecidedFrog Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,063 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/02/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2004 This is just my opinion. You don't have to accept it if you dislike it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian. besides, often the things immediately tagged as "sinful" are there to teach us something about the story and/or characters, like the incest in One Hundred Years of Solitude. For example There are other examples of incest...in fact, right in the bible...didn't Lot's daughters lay with Lot after they got him drunk? I think that qualifies as sin. I wonder how those that would ban books based on sin content rationalize the same sentiment toward the bible? Hmmm. Regards, UndecidedFrog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Again Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 965 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/28/1979 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I repeat my earlier question again...if one says that a "good Christian" should avoid all sinful literature, doesn't that then stifle the brains God gave us? Imagine what the world would be without literature, Shakespeare, Hemingway, Socrates...besides, often the things immediately tagged as "sinful" are there to teach us something about the story and/or characters, like the incest in One Hundred Years of Solitude. For example. As for my number reference...you spend enough time in high school, you begin to react every time those numbers pop up. Sigh. It just becomes habit after a while, I guess. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No- avoiding things like that does not stifle the brain. The long and short of it is that is either glorifies God or is doesn't. I used to love Shakespeare, Poe, philosophy, etc- but I chose to "stimulate" my brain reading the Bible, or books on Christian living- my personal preference. 1 John 2:15-16 Stop loving this evil world and all that it offers you, for when you love the world, you show that you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only the lust for physical pleasure, the lust for everything we see, and pride in our possessions. These are not from the Father. They are from this evil world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 276 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 7,474 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1966 Share Posted October 28, 2004 GBG, I agree with you when it comes to the great pieces that are created to make us thinks about the things in life. I also agree that there are many wonderful examples of fiction and art that are created for nothing more than our innocent pleasure, but Personally, I draw the line on things with little hidden agendas. There comes a time when we have to look at the intent. It doesn't mean I'm into book burnings or anything like that, but I choose not to allow the agenda stuff into my life any more, if I can help it. My kids are better off for it. Thanks, t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2004 The abomination of homosexuality, whether literature of film, etc, certainly deserves its own special place: in the proverbial waste-basket category with all due haste. Any individual who will not respect & obey the commandments of Jesus Christ will not have anything of holy substance to contribute to my new life as a believing Christian. The Apostle Paul hit it right on its head in Philippians 4:8,9 - which surely completely rules out the jaundiced practice of homosexuality. 2 Corinthians 5:17 is VERY GOOD! Thank You, Jesus! http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2004 The abomination of homosexuality, whether literature of film, etc, certainly deserves its own special place: in the proverbial waste-basket category with all due haste. Any individual who will not respect & obey the commandments of Jesus Christ will not have anything of holy substance to contribute to my new life as a believing Christian. The Apostle Paul hit it right on its head in Philippians 4:8,9 - which surely completely rules out the jaundiced practice of homosexuality. 2 Corinthians 5:17 is VERY GOOD! Thank You, Jesus! http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just the waste-bin, why not the bonfire? Do you feel the same way asbout books and films that deal with the issue of divorce, or ones that glorify war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2004 The abomination of homosexuality, whether literature of film, etc, certainly deserves its own special place: in the proverbial waste-basket category with all due haste. Any individual who will not respect & obey the commandments of Jesus Christ will not have anything of holy substance to contribute to my new life as a believing Christian. The Apostle Paul hit it right on its head in Philippians 4:8,9 - which surely completely rules out the jaundiced practice of homosexuality. 2 Corinthians 5:17 is VERY GOOD! Thank You, Jesus! http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just the waste-bin, why not the bonfire? Do you feel the same way asbout books and films that deal with the issue of divorce, or ones that glorify war. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted October 28, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2004 The abomination of homosexuality, whether literature of film, etc, certainly deserves its own special place: in the proverbial waste-basket category with all due haste. Any individual who will not respect & obey the commandments of Jesus Christ will not have anything of holy substance to contribute to my new life as a believing Christian. The Apostle Paul hit it right on its head in Philippians 4:8,9 - which surely completely rules out the jaundiced practice of homosexuality. 2 Corinthians 5:17 is VERY GOOD! Thank You, Jesus! http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just the waste-bin, why not the bonfire? Do you feel the same way asbout books and films that deal with the issue of divorce, or ones that glorify war. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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