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Not offended damo just pointing out the obvious. Gdemoss, a 45 acp with a 15 round mag is just as safe as a 38 with 6. Point 1. Point two guns arent just crime deterrants theyre corrupt government deterrents, without them theres not much stopping anyone from bringing those mass graves here. Point 3 you should double check you ballistics-a 38 special will certainly kill a man if you hit them in the right spot-but it wont take a man off his feet. And if our government falls and we face invasion, then your going to want large mags and rounds powerful enough to penetrate body armor.

Hmmm, my service weapon was a 38 special, loaded with 158 gain Jacketed Hollow Point, it had no problem stopping a prep and knocking him down with a well placed shot center chest. Only ran into one problem with a man strung out on Angel dust...

The proper use of a fire arm is more important then the size of the round your firing down range. Practice, practice and more practice is needed to be able to hit your target in an area to bring it down. The 38 is a good size for self defense and is much easier to use then it's bigger brother the 357...

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out of 209 reporting countries, the US is tied for 109th for murder rate per year.

Can you get figures that separate out drug and gang wars vs. everything else.?

Why? Don't those count

How many "guns on the street" are legally obtained?

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Im going to throw this out here, comparing us to japan, is a false argument. Japans low murder rate has nothing to do with the fact it doesnt allow guns-sure, they dont allow them, but if thats ALL you look at, you have a pretty narrow view. Japans low murder rate has more to do with its immigration laws then the amount of guns it has on the streets. So maybe, we should actually do something about immigration, and not guns.

http://frontpagemag....ts-gun-control/

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Nice cherry picking of the evidence.

2 states, c'mon. Include the top ten for homicides, then lets talk.

Im going to throw this out here, comparing us to japan, is a false argument. Japans low murder rate has nothing to do with the fact it doesnt allow guns-sure, they dont allow them, but if thats ALL you look at, you have a pretty narrow view. Japans low murder rate has more to do with its immigration laws then the amount of guns it has on the streets. So maybe, we should actually do something about immigration, and not guns.

http://frontpagemag....ts-gun-control/

again, I was not comparing the two, I was giving an example of a gun control system that works, something that was said not to

Wrong, you cherry pick, and completely ignore what was said about Japan's culture. Fail.

What exactly is your "common sense" approach?

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Firearm homicide rate as a percentage of population: http://www.gunpolicy...e/41,26,113,194

As you can see, the US ranks very low on this list.

so, we rank below such places as Columbia and Brazil and that is good enough?

this this and see how we rank against similar countries...

http://www.gunpolicy...1,128,192,10,31

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/compare/166/rate_of_gun_homicide/41,26,113,194

Here's gun related homicide as a percentage of population. We are at 3. The worst country is 10 times that. Please put that in perspective. 3 out of 100,000 Americans are murdered with a gun each year. If you take out drug and gang violence, you can guarantee that it will be even less.

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A specious argument. You ignore the fact that Japan is an Island, with a xenophobic population, and a very different culture than America's. There is no comparison to be made here.

America has guns. you're not going to stop that.

Answer me this- does prohibition work? Consider that for your position.

This case is about metal illness, not guns.

The evil, and the lunatics care not one whit for your laws, they will only serve to disarm innocent people who will be victims of those who will ignore your illogical approach to this problem, of evil, not guns.

Why do all the states with severe gun control laws have such horrific gun violence?

What do you propose is the solution then?

Our homicide rate has more to do with gang and drug related violence than anything else. Find a way to solve that and you solve the gun violence problem. But, we can't do that, as we are continuing down the road to chaos, by trying to legalize drug use.

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Another example of promoting chaos, and promoting a larger government solution to the problem.

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http://www.gunpolicy...e_any_method/91

Japanese are more suicidal than Americans, care to explain why?

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How many "guns on the street" are legally obtained?

dont know.

what is the point?

The argument that gun control is needed to stop gun-caused homicides is pointless for the statistical part where the gun used was illegally obtained.

Also, pushing gun legislation on average citizens on account of statistics that include gang and drug-related fighting won't improve the situation.

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