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  1. Saturday or Sunday?

    That is not what my Bible says Shiloh. Says any work. And Jesus didn't correct them.. Rabbi's shouldn't matter. They make all kinds if things to suit themselves.
  2. Do You Live Close to Where you Were Born?

    47 miles away.
  3. Saturday or Sunday?

    Say what you will with your logic..... but the fourth commandment says NO work and Jesus said he was working.... so are you willing to sacrifice our salvation to match your belief about the Sabbath commandment being still in effect? That's the question you should be asking yourself.
  4. Trick or treating

    https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/504/Christmas-Tree.htm When you put up that tree, tack a wreath on the door, and maybe hang mistletoe from the lintel, what are you signifying? John Williamson, in "Christmas Greenery" in the Dallas Morning News (December 6, 1986), encapsulates the pagan origin of decorating with evergreens: Evergreen trees were important fertility emblems for pre-Christian ceremonies marking the winter solstice. People from ancient societies believed that by decorating their homes and temples with evergreen plants, such as holly, ivy and mistletoe, they were helping to carry the diminished sun through a critical period. . . . Mistletoe was the most sacred plant of the Druids. . . . [It] was given great reverence . . . because it grows on the venerated oak. The custom of kissing under the mistletoe comes from the ancient idea that mistletoe is the oak's genitals. And so it was believed that an embrace under its glistening berries was sure guarantee of a fruitful union. . . . The decoration of Christmas trees is a survival of pagan tree veneration. . . . For centuries before Christianity, holly was . . . used . . . for celebrating their midwinter Saturnalia. While all the greenery in a home decked out for Christmas is beautiful to look at, these customs have nothing at all to do with Christ. In fact, they are sheer paganism directly descended from ancient rites practiced long before Jesus' birth (see Jeremiah 10:1-5). Do you really want to give the impression that you are worshipping a tree? Or that you desire a fruitful union because you give someone a kiss under the mistletoe? Mike Ford So You Plan to Keep Christmas Now? Two key figures in the origin of Christmas are Nimrod, a great grandson of Noah, and his mother and wife, Semiramis, also known as Ishtar and Isis. Nimrod, known in Egypt as Osiris, was the founder of the first world empire at Babel, later known as Babylon (Genesis 10:8-12; 11:1-9). From ancient sources such as the "Epic of Gilgamesh" and records unearthed by archeologists from long-ruined Mesopotamian and Egyptian cities, we can reconstruct subsequent events. After Nimrod's death (c. 2167 BC), Semiramis promoted the belief that he was a god. She claimed that she saw a full-grown evergreen tree spring out of the roots of a dead tree stump, symbolizing the springing forth of new life for Nimrod. On the anniversary of his birth, she said, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts under it. His birthday fell on the winter solstice at the end of December. A few years later, Semiramis bore a son, Horus or Gilgamesh. She declared that she had been visited by the spirit of Nimrod, who left her pregnant with the boy. Horus, she maintained, was Nimrod reincarnated. With a father, mother, and son deified, a deceptive, perverted trinity was formed. Semiramis and Horus were worshipped as "Madonna and child." As the generations passed, they were worshipped under other names in different countries and languages. Many of these are recognizable: Fortuna and Jupiter in Rome; Aphrodite and Adonis in Greece; and Ashtoreth/Astarte and Molech/Baal in Canaan. During the time between Babel and Christ, pagans developed the belief that the days grew shorter in early winter because their sun-god was leaving them. When they saw the length of the day increasing, they celebrated by riotous, unrestrained feasting and orgies. This celebration, known as Saturnalia, was named after Saturn, another name for Nimrod. Martin G. Collins Syncretismas! In the seventeenth century, the English anti-Christmas attitude spread to her Puritan territories in America. In defiance of the Puritan attitude, the Catholic church established special Christmas services in Boston, Massachusetts, in the 1690s, but many civil authorities strongly opposed them. By the early 1700s, German and Dutch settlers had brought the pagan custom of the gift-bringing St. Nicholas and the Christmas tree with them. Christmas was primarily celebrated in their settlements. German mercenaries, fighting on the British side in the War of Independence, raised Christmas trees in their camps. In 1823 Santa Claus acquired national fame in the United States as a result of a poem. According to Man, Myth and Magic Encyclopedia: St. Nicholas had become famous as a result of Clarke Moore's poem "The Night Before Christmas," published in 1823. By the 1890s the English Father Christmas, originally a minor character in a mummer's play, had been absorbed into the personality of his American counterpart, and become the jovial figure that he is today. In 1836, Christmas first became an American legal holiday in the state of Alabama. Soon, one state after another legalized this pagan festival. Today, the U.S. celebrates this 4000-year-old festival as a national holiday with gift-giving and riotous, unrestrained feasting and drinking, in a manner similar to the celebrations in the ancient world. Martin G. Collins Syncretismas! The date of December 25 to celebrate Christ's birth was chosen to conform to the old, pagan Roman holidays called "Saturnalia" and "Brumalia." The ancient Romans kept these holidays around the time of the shortest day of the year, the winter solstice. Here are some excerpts about this festival from The Book of the Bible by Riedel, Tracy & Moskwitz: Because the Roman emperor Aurelian fixed December 25th for the winter solstice holiday in AD 274, it is thought that the early Christians adopted this day for their Christ-mass so that they would be less conspicuous in the observance of their holiday. Most scholars believe that the birthday of Jesus was never known and that the December date was chosen solely for convenience. The earliest known observance of Christmas on December 25th was the year AD 336 in Rome, as recorded in a calendar of the period. Throughout antiquity other dates for the birth were advanced: March 25, April 19, November 17, among others, but there is no evidence, literary or historical, that supports any of these dates. Almost everywhere in Europe, in both Roman and Teutonic [northern European] countries, the period around the winter solstice was celebrated with lights, to celebrate the increase of sunlight to come, and with greenery, usually evergreens, to represent the coming of spring and eternal cycles of growth. At the Saturnalia festival (December 17-24), Romans would present each other with sprigs of holly as gifts for the holiday. When Teutonic tribes began to usurp power from the Romans in Europe, they brought their Yule, or winter feast, traditions with them. The Yule log and wassailing (i.e., toasting each others' health with alcoholic drinks) are two of these traditions. The origin of the Christmas tree is usually traced to Saint Boniface, who in the 8th century persuaded the Teutonic tribes to abandon worship of the sacred oak of Odin, a remnant of Druidism, and to confer it instead on the fir, a more appropriate symbol of Jesus and eternal life. [Trees, however, have been used in pagan, idolatrous worship for many thousands of years. Numerous references to this can be found throughout the Old Testament (I Kings 14:23; II Kings 16:2-4; 17:10; II Chronicles 28:4; I Samuel 40:18-20; 57:5; 66:17; Jeremiah 2:20; 3:6,13; 10:1-5; Ezekiel 6:13).] Staff 'Tis the Season: Help for Our Young People
  5. Saturday or Sunday?

    I would suggest you go back and reread the commandments.... it says there is no work to be done...... NO WORK, and Jesus admitted he was working.... you can twist that into whatever you need to accept it but it is what it says. they did not say come back tomorrow because it was not there tradition to be in groups on that day. It was the tradition for Jews to be there and the gentiles were there also. and they would be there the next week..... but that does not mean that gentiles are commanded to observe any Sabbaths. That burden was not given to us. But if you do want to observe the Sabbath there is nothing wrong with that, go for it..... but don't burden us gentiles with unnecessary things that was not given us by the people who brought the gospel to us.
  6. I think if I was God I'd be offended at this post..... do you really think he's going to tie you up with someone who would not be good for you after asking.... God isn't into gotja prayer answers just because you leave something out.
  7. if you want some very interesting information about Israel and American disasters, go to youtube and search for :eye to eye book bill Koenig: look for the Prophecy Watchers interview. it is at the top of the list for me. He was speaking at the conference we attended last week. He has researched what happens when we send people to Israel and pressure them to give up land for peace..... and it's remarkable.... and if you want the details buy the book.
  8. Saturday or Sunday?

    if you want to speak to many Jewish men the best place to do so would be where they gather..... It is true the Jewish population still observed the Sabbath, but those spreading the gospel were going to where the people were gathered add to that the concept that Jesus broke the Sabbath laws of working on the Sabbath would put is in a not so good position. Make a note that they were accusing him of breaking the law and he did not correct them, simply said that not only was he working, but the Father had been working also. But let me edit this to add that there is nothing wrong if you want to keep a weekly Sabbath.... but it is wrong for you to force it on others, and surely wrong to make it a necessary part of salvation as some other than yourself does.
  9. Trick or treating

    most of us did a lot of things when we were young that we wish we hadn't.... the better question would be how many went trick or treating when they were young and discovered it was not a really good thing to do, repented of it and stopped doing so. It's been my experience that most of the people I know that are OK with the Halloween traditions really don't believe in modern day demonic activity so they think it just frivolous.... To those of us who have unfortunately involved ourselves in the dark side of the spiritual realm (or had someone do it for us), understand that it's not frivolous and it is teaching our kids that there is nothing to the demonic side of things.... which considering the time period we seem to be entering, makes it a rather dangerous concept. Did we take our kids trick or treating when they were young.... actually we did, but taught them that the dark side was real and when you went up to someone's porch one did not yell trick or treat, one politely asked if they could please have some candy. Technically to go to someone and say "trick or treat" is extortion and is illegal almost everywhere.
  10. Links to YouTube in threads

    LoL, I think I've eaten my Bible.... Seriously, during my career with Xerox, I drove an average of 3,500 miles a month doing my job.... for 20 years of that nearly 40 year career I listened to the Bible while driving from one location to the next. I've lost count of the times I've read or listened to it... the problem I have had myself and I see it here all the time is that when one has spent that much time in it and looking for little nuggets that one might have missed, one tends to start putting things together that don't really belong. Personally my studies have branched out into history and ancient civilizations and their beliefs at the time that the Bible was written... An example that is quite interesting that I'm not quite finished with is the verses considering women's hair and what that has to do with the angels unless you thing Genesis chapter six is speaking of fallen angels (which I do). When you look into the common knowledge at the time that Paul was writing to the church, the general thought process of the people he was writing to considered the length of hair as tied into the body retaining sperm better the longer the hair..... both males and females..... The long hair on females is a reminder to the angels that the woman is well suited to have children which was the basic fall of the 200 watchers in Genesis chapter six. One finds that out by looking into medical books available at the time.... But no conversation seems to be welcome here that comes from any thought that is outside the scripture itself by four people that have taken it upon themselves to quash any knowledge outside their Bibles....... So it's really more than a rest from the place to me. I need to see a change in the basic thought process here.
  11. Trick or treating

    "Trick or treat" extortion
  12. Links to YouTube in threads

    yes, I'm just tired of the way people are treated around here and taking a long break..... still checking for people in need, but I think I'm done with a lot of the threads until people are allowed to have their own ideas of what is true and what is not..... it's just not worth the aggravation to have close minded people always at people's throat.... more so some who are really grasping for help and some that just obviously need it....
  13. Still Photographs Spring To Life

    one step closer to not being able to really believe much of anything one sees on the internet or tv any longer
  14. Please pray for my friend!

    Praying. If you can try and find him. He needs to burn the board...
  15. here is the Goodreads summary of the book: Notice that what started as a long spiral into the underworld ended in a miraculous encounter with Jesus. I know some of the subject lines and some of the things you read talks like he defeated the devil's hold on him and his life, but it wasn't him at all that brought him out of that darkness.... same as with me, it was Jesus that made that happen and I would say that without Jesus he would not have been able to remove himself from that deep into the darkness. As for the book I would just not deal with it..... unless you are already involved with the dark side and looking for a way out, you really don't need to be going there. If you are, you really won't get the help here on the open forums.... PM someone who has been involved.