True Repentance

[enoob57]

Luke 10:27-28

27 So he answered and said, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart,

with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,' and 'your neighbor as yourself.'"

28 And He said to him, "You have answered rightly; do this and you will live."

NKJV

as repentance is turning from death to life so these components should also be present... Love, Steven

[Qnts2]

From what I see here, the are multiple Greek words which are translated as repentance. I am more familiar with Hebrew, so I can say there are two different Hebrew words which are translated to English as repent.

1. Nacham means to be deeply sorrowful, regret for what one has done. Certainly, that is emotion.

2. Shuv means to turn, to turn from what you are doing, back to God. That one is a change of direction and action.

I believe shuv is true repentence. A person might deeply regret their actions, but the deep regret does not necessarily result in 'shuv' which would be changing, turning.

While, a person might turn from their sin, recognize it as sin, and turn back to God. I do not believe this definition is always accompanied by emotions of sorrow. Just a recognition of being wrong.

re·pent·ance

[ri-pen-tns, -pen-tuhns]

noun

1.

deep sorrow, compunction, or contrition for a past sin,wrongdoing, or the like.

2.

regret for any past action.

Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary

Repentance definition

There are three Greek words used in the New Testament to denote repentance.

(1.) The verb _metamelomai_ is used of a change of mind, such as to produce regret or even remorse on account of sin,but not necessarily a change of heart. This word is used with reference to the repentance of Judas (Matt. 27:3).

(2.) Metanoeo,meaning to change one's mind and purpose, as the result of afterknowledge. This verb, with

(3) the cognate noun _metanoia_, is used of true repentance, a change of mind and purpose and life, to which remission of sin is promised. Evangelical repentance consists of

(1) a true sense of one's own guilt and sinfulness;

(2) an apprehension of God's mercy in Christ;

(3) an actual hatred of sin (Ps. 119:128; Job 42:5, 6; 2 Cor. 7:10) and turning from it to God;

and (4) a persistent endeavour after a holy life in a walking with God in the way of his commandments.

The true penitent is conscious of guilt (Ps. 51:4, 9), of pollution (51:5, 7, 10), and of helplessness (51:11; 109:21, 22).

Thus he apprehends himself to be just what God has always seen him to be and declares him to be. But repentance comprehends not only such a sense of sin, but also an apprehension of mercy, without which there can be no true repentance (Ps. 51:1; 130:4).

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IMO, true repentance is not possible without an emotional response. the sensing of one's sinfulness cannot solely be an intellectual act.

Edited March 27, 2013 by Qnts2

[back2thebible]

Jesus said in Luke 13:2-6 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

Here's a question:

Does true repentance leading to salvation necessarily require an emotional response?

In other words, can true repentance be more of an intellectual act (changing one's mind concerning God, sin, and the world), than one stemming from (for example) a deep rooted sorrow for one's actions or other emotion?

What do you think?

I think people can clearly cry in repentance and then in a short time like a dog returning to its vomit, go back to the sins they are in bondage too, true repentance on the otherhand makes someone hate the sin they used to do, so much that even the thought of the sin is repulsive to them,

this is also where one finds freedom from sins that lead to bondage, rebuking thoughts as they enter the mind, rather than allowing your mind to entertain them is a true example of whether or not you have truly repented.

If you find yourself entertaining evil thoughts of sinful behaviors as if they were not sinful, then I would conclude that you are not done with this sin, and are still in bondage

[Mcgyver]

Jesus said in Luke 13:2-6 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

Here's a question:

Does true repentance leading to salvation necessarily require an emotional response?

In other words, can true repentance be more of an intellectual act (changing one's mind concerning God, sin, and the world), than one stemming from (for example) a deep rooted sorrow for one's actions or other emotion?

What do you think?

I think people can clearly cry in repentance and then in a short time like a dog returning to its vomit, go back to the sins they are in bondage too, true repentance on the otherhand makes someone hate the sin they used to do, so much that even the thought of the sin is repulsive to them,

this is also where one finds freedom from sins that lead to bondage, rebuking thoughts as they enter the mind, rather than allowing your mind to entertain them is a true example of whether or not you have truly repented.

If you find yourself entertaining evil thoughts of sinful behaviors as if they were not sinful, then I would conclude that you are not done with this sin, and are still in bondage

Excellent observation!

[Godsmercyinus]

I have never truly been repentant.

I just discovered this today. I haven't felt any kind of tears down my eyes, or, thinking, "God's watching me", or "I feel sick to my stomach" that kind of thing. I can't even feel scared anymore, and it doesn't cross my mind that the Devil is using this, along with many things in my life, to deceive me.

I guess this is because I keep going back to the same sin over and over, the sin of sexual immorality. And it largely involves naked old men, white and usually European. Pictures of them, videos of naturism, or even nudism, videos of creepy old men stripping down to their nethers, doing things that are largely indulgent.

Just because you could lead a life where you never actually have sex, doesn't mean that you can't find ways to satisfy that sin in you using the Internet as a medium. I don't know if whether or not all the garbage I've been letting into my head, is making me Gay, but it probably is.

I'm so tired of it all. I can't even be repentant and trust Christ.

Largely because I don't have a true grasp on what it means to trust him with all your heart, to humble yourself in his presence, and surrendering yourself to him. I can't do it. Because I can't even recognize sin and sexual immorality for what it is that I've seen. I cna't figure out that sin is sin. And truly, it's because I love to sin. Or I'm just indifferent to the act of it.

- Christopher

[gdemoss]

Does true repentance leading to salvation necessarily require an emotional response?

John preached on and gave the baptism of repentance. The answer to your question can be found in his words to the Pharisees.

Also what is it the Hebrews says Jesus did while he was here on earth that caused him to be heard on high?

Are we exempt from following his example?

[back2thebible]

I have never truly been repentant.

I just discovered this today. I haven't felt any kind of tears down my eyes, or, thinking, "God's watching me", or "I feel sick to my stomach" that kind of thing. I can't even feel scared anymore, and it doesn't cross my mind that the Devil is using this, along with many things in my life, to deceive me.

I guess this is because I keep going back to the same sin over and over, the sin of sexual immorality. And it largely involves naked old men, white and usually European. Pictures of them, videos of naturism, or even nudism, videos of creepy old men stripping down to their nethers, doing things that are largely indulgent.

Just because you could lead a life where you never actually have sex, doesn't mean that you can't find ways to satisfy that sin in you using the Internet as a medium. I don't know if whether or not all the garbage I've been letting into my head, is making me Gay, but it probably is.

I'm so tired of it all. I can't even be repentant and trust Christ.

Largely because I don't have a true grasp on what it means to trust him with all your heart, to humble yourself in his presence, and surrendering yourself to him. I can't do it. Because I can't even recognize sin and sexual immorality for what it is that I've seen. I cna't figure out that sin is sin. And truly, it's because I love to sin. Or I'm just indifferent to the act of it.

- Christopher

I'm praying for you today, that God would show you the sin in your life, that He would show you the great love He has for you, and how He wants the best life for you, one that would bring true joy and true happyness, not the never satisfying addiction to perverted acts in pornography which is satans deception of false gratification

I speak from experience and from a place that was not even considered seeking, If God could reach out to me the greatest of sinners, he can reach out to you also, I'm praying that He will!

I also pray that you would find someone to council you to discover why certian things draw your sexual attractions, a Christian counselor of course, somtimes its our past that bring up these kinds of things, being raped myself as a kid has led to all sorts of convictions and deceptive paths

God's truth and His word declares that He can change everything