GoldenEagle Posted June 29, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2013 So what is Judaism guilty of? Not recognizing Jesus. There is no salvation apart from Jesus, but that does not make Judaism a false religion. It is a pre-Jesus religion with no eternal salvation but not a false religion. Judaism is an in-complete religion IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning_Ember Posted June 29, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,009 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 100 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2013 Allahu Akbar in it's literal translation means "God Bigger". In it's contextual meaning it's an invocation, soldiers might say Allahu Akbar when you go to war to ask for strength, if someone is grieving then they might say Allahu Akbar when things are too much for them to handle, kind of like how I see hear some people say "Jesus, come quickly!" It's absolutely awful that a man got shot for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ninhao Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 So what is Judaism guilty of? Not recognizing Jesus. There is no salvation apart from Jesus, but that does not make Judaism a false religion. It is a pre-Jesus religion with no eternal salvation but not a false religion. Judaism is an in-complete religion IMO. Is pre Christ Israelite religion called Judaism or is this term post Christ ? Pre Christ Israelite is made up of people who participate in false religion and people who participate in legitimate religion. There has always been a portion of pre Christ Israelite who both worshiped the One True God and knew Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted June 29, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2013 So what is Judaism guilty of? Not recognizing Jesus. There is no salvation apart from Jesus, but that does not make Judaism a false religion. It is a pre-Jesus religion with no eternal salvation but not a false religion. Judaism is an in-complete religion IMO. Is pre Christ Israelite religion called Judaism or is this term post Christ ? Pre Christ Israelite is made up of people who participate in false religion and people who participate in legitimate religion. There has always been a portion of pre Christ Israelite who both worshiped the One True God and knew Jesus. Judaism is simply the religion of the Jewish people. Judaism is the term used in the English language it's root is Yehudi, the Hebrew word used to refer to the children of Israel since the Babylonian exhile. So, it is pre-Jesus. You are right that at all times in the history of the children of Israel, some were disobedient and some were obedient. Some in history engaged in idol worship, but that was not 'the religion of the Jewish people'. I would not say that pre-Jesus Israelites knew Jesus. Rather they believed in the prophesied Messiah and had faith in God's promises concerning the coming Messiah. In my view knowing Jesus means to be born again of the Spirit. That is only available after Jesus died and rose again. Also in my view, Christianity promises eternal salvation but also, all true Christians/Messianics have the indwelling Holy Spirit, while in OT Judaism the common people did not have the indwelling Holy Spirit so did not have the interal teacher, new nature etc. Without that direct communication, the religion was a series of commands with human judges and priests who taught the people. Jeremiah 31 distinguishes the difference between the Mosaic covenant and the New Covenant by saying you will no longer need to teach about God because all will know God (very paraphrased). Judaism is not a false religion, but the leadership was to be obeyed, so the leadership could have made bad judgements concerning what scripture says. There are laws which released the people from obeying teachers who taught falsely but what constituted a false teaching was specifically idol worship, and/or following false gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted June 29, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2013 So what is Judaism guilty of? Not recognizing Jesus. There is no salvation apart from Jesus, but that does not make Judaism a false religion. It is a pre-Jesus religion with no eternal salvation but not a false religion. Judaism is an in-complete religion IMO. I would not call Judaism an in-complete religion. It is based on a God given complete covenant. The Mosaic covenant was perfect/complete. Due to the fault in all of the people, they are to move forward into the better covenant. But that doesn't made the Mosaic covenant in-complete. Some Jewish believers in Jesus used to call themselves completed Jews, meaning prior to believing on Jesus, they were incomplete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted July 1, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 1, 2013 So what is Judaism guilty of? Not recognizing Jesus. There is no salvation apart from Jesus, but that does not make Judaism a false religion. It is a pre-Jesus religion with no eternal salvation but not a false religion. Judaism is an in-complete religion IMO. I would not call Judaism an in-complete religion. It is based on a God given complete covenant. The Mosaic covenant was perfect/complete. Due to the fault in all of the people, they are to move forward into the better covenant. But that doesn't made the Mosaic covenant in-complete. Some Jewish believers in Jesus used to call themselves completed Jews, meaning prior to believing on Jesus, they were incomplete. This in bold.... ^^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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