Montana Marv Posted March 3, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 3, 2014 Bible Gazer Your quote from your post above. The white horse rider went to preach Jesus our Prince of Peace and conquered the hearts of the people and gave them white robe to the overcomers. This contradicts Acts 1:9 - But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. Rev 1:3 - Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. Approx time of writing is 95 AD. So the 1st Seal cannot be history, but a future time. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bible_Gazer Posted March 3, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 3, 2014 Bible Gazer Your quote from your post above. The white horse rider went to preach Jesus our Prince of Peace and conquered the hearts of the peopleand gave them white robe to the overcomers. This contradicts Acts 1:9 - But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. Rev 1:3 - Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. Approx time of writing is 95 AD. So the 1st Seal cannot be history, but a future time. In ChristMontana MarvHey MarvI think the rider represent the ministryActs 1:9 Jesus was talking to the Apostle(ministry)So it didn't contradict.They went out preaching Jesus the peace maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donibm Posted March 4, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/09/1974 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Only "fact" I care about, is that my name is written in the Lambs Book of Life ... and that I do not wish to distort His Word, or His character through lies or falsehood. After all, Jesus rebuked the Phraisees AND the Scribes to damnation. To God, there is no different from the verbal false or the written false. .... be careful what you type people. Now, concerning the seals. Well, it depends. If you think that the rider is THEE antichrist, that seal isn't broken yet. Again, why would the first rider be a man when the rest of the riders are things? That isn't consistent. If you think that rider is Christianity, you would have to think that the seal is broken. If anyone thinks like me, in which the rider represents religion - psuedoChristianity (which is also the SPIRIT of antichrist), then yes, the seal is broken. There have been more RELIGIONS that have sprung up all over the world that borrow and distort and imitate Christianity in the last 200 years than the prior 1000 years! It has been an explosion of "Christian based" religions that have sprung up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted March 4, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2014 Bible Gazer Your quote from your post above. The white horse rider went to preach Jesus our Prince of Peace and conquered the hearts of the people and gave them white robe to the overcomers. This contradicts Acts 1:9 - But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. Rev 1:3 - Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. Approx time of writing is 95 AD. So the 1st Seal cannot be history, but a future time. In Christ Montana Marv Hey Marv I think the rider represent the ministry Acts 1:9 Jesus was talking to the Apostle(ministry) So it didn't contradict. They went out preaching Jesus the peace maker. Then who do the 24 elders of Rev 4:4 represent. These are in Heaven before the Scroll is opened. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bible_Gazer Posted March 4, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2014 Bible Gazer Your quote from your post above. The white horse rider went to preach Jesus our Prince of Peace and conquered the hearts of the peopleand gave them white robe to the overcomers. This contradicts Acts 1:9 - But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. Rev 1:3 - Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. Approx time of writing is 95 AD. So the 1st Seal cannot be history, but a future time. In ChristMontana MarvHey MarvI think the rider represent the ministryActs 1:9 Jesus was talking to the Apostle(ministry)So it didn't contradict.They went out preaching Jesus the peace maker.Then who do the 24 elders of Rev 4:4 represent. These are in Heaven before the Scroll is opened. In ChristMontana MarvThe things that John saw are future, present, and past events.He sees what things that will be accomplished.The purpose of the seals are to reveal events that has and will be done of who all are going to make it.I think the 24 elders are higher level of authority in the bride.Who to say if that has already been made up from the early church.Do you see yourself in one of the groups in Revelation, but you are still here.Hopefully we can see us standing praising God in Rev.5 or 7 or 21-22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted March 4, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2014 Gazer If the 24 elders represent the Church in some form, they are already wearing crowns. These elders are already in Heaven when the scroll is opened up, the scroll consists of the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments. So the rider on the white horse has nothing to do with Christianity. For NT Saints are already in Heaven, and they have their reward. 24 have crowns and are sitting on thrones. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdomwitness Posted March 4, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/20/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1998 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 For sure the seal might already be broken. But the Church has never conquered like it has in this present time. There is a great harvest this time as there are millions of souls that have been won for the Kingdom. The Church is still conquering. The Church will still conquer. The Church is given a Victor's crown. "And to him who overcomes, and keeps my works to the end, to him will I give power over the nations" Revelation 2:26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bible_Gazer Posted March 4, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Gazer If the 24 elders represent the Church in some form, they are already wearing crowns. These elders are already in Heaven when the scroll is opened up, the scroll consists of the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments. So the rider on the white horse has nothing to do with Christianity. For NT Saints are already in Heaven, and they have their reward. 24 have crowns and are sitting on thrones. In ChristMontana MarvIf you read the whole 5th chapter every body is praising God in heaven and earth.when can this be? Seem like Rev.21-22 is the place when all is done.Seem like Rev.4-5 is a preface.I think the seals are showing us different time frame events about what happened, thatgot all these people to be saved during the 3,000 years.(from the early church to Rev.21-22)Do you think Rev.6 - 19 is all covered in 7 years ? Edited March 4, 2014 by Bible_Gazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2014 Gazer Your question: Do you think Rev.6 - 19 is all covered in 7 years ? No, I think it fits nicely into the final 3 1/2 years. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bible_Gazer Posted March 5, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2014 Gazer Your question: Do you think Rev.6 - 19 is all covered in 7 years ? No, I think it fits nicely into the final 3 1/2 years. In ChristMontana MarvThen I assume you would believe there will be millions saved during that time right ?for instance Rev.6 the 5th seal soul under the altar and Rev.7 numbers of people gets saved and Rev.19 the brideand also Rev.14 the 144,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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