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  1. Our heart is who we are and good and evil come from its treasures box. Its not the flesh that choose to do evil, Jesus said it comes from the heart. So the heart is what goes to heaven not the flesh. Now when is the heart not going to be thinking to sin against God ? Is there a bathtub between here and heaven that is going to erase all those bad thoughts out of our heart ? If we are sinners here are we not sinners there ? I don't think we are two separate beings in one body and God picks out the good side . The very purpose of Jesus coming is so we don't sin anymore, not just to get forgiveness every time we sin. The OT saints, that what they did sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent,= they got forgiveness through those sacrifices and gets a resurrection. What was better in the NT ? Just one sacrifice and sin and repent, sin and repent and gets a resurrection. Has anything changed really, from the OT to NT ? If we are sinners all the time then we can never be holy, pure, righteous, overcomer, Christ like , a bride. That's what the scripture says am I right ?
  2. I have heard this. Name a sin that a person cannot overcome. Even with that statement we need the power of Jesus to overcome, even the Devil. So is that even possible ? Forgiveness of sin doesn't change a person from sinning again. Hebrews 12 talks about chastisement from God on his people whom he loves to help them from sinning again. Its a warning from God. So yes God wants us to stop sinning against him. If those minister preaching to says its OK to sin, then you may want to turn your ears somewhere else.
  3. Rev. 8 the Angel cast fire into the earth = is this another calamity before the Angel start to blow the 7 trumpets messages ? Revelation 8:5-6 (KJV) 5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. What is about to happen before the 7 trumpets ?
  4. Seem like the trumpets given by the Angels are messenger, Rev. 8 says the trumpets were voices. Is it just that the trumpets are just warning of things to come, but they don't come by the trumpets, but by the vials. Seem to be that the trumpets and vials are sort of parallel with each other with the same destruction. If the trumpets are during the first 3 1/2 years then nothing really happens, maybe the time of "come out of her my people" so they will not be part of the destruction. Interesting is in Rev.8 there seem to be a great commotion going on before the trumpets begin to sound. Fire cast into the earth and an earthquake. explain this ?
  5. Thanks speaking Donkey for your input. Well it does seem the Lord will gain control of sea and land where humanity is. He still rules in the kingdom of men. I think the thunders is something to do with the Millennium also.
  6. *[[1Sa 31:12]] KJV* All the valiant men arose, and went all night, and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Bethshan, and came to Jabesh, and burnt them there.
  7. 5. Time no longer v.6 ? what is this about ? Any thoughts on this ? What when ? If its somewhere in the 7 years time frame, is there still time to be reckon with ? 3 1/2 years, 1,000 years …….
  8. I seem to agree with the first part about the scene of Rev. 10. the 7 thunder is as you said. Its already been said and John heard it, it seem to be for earth. so it just most likely will be written, God can add to this book if he wants to, man can't add to it. Just don't know since its a Thunder if its - good news or bad news warning
  9. Thanks Marilyn, your reasoning about this mighty angel Just may be the Lord. The little book that John eats, he was told to prophesy it. I always leaned toward it just being the book of revelation. sweet and bitter news.
  10. Revelation 10 = I have not read a discussion on this chapter, so what are the thoughts ? 1. who is the mighty angel, his feet on the sea and the earth ? 2. what is the little book ? 3. what is the seven thunders message ? yes it is sealed, but will it ever be opened, if so when ? 4. the mystery of God when is it to be finished ? is this just parts or all of Revelation ? 5. Time no longer ? what is this about ? 6. How does Revelation 10 fit in between the sixth and seventh trumpet time frame, even before the 2 witnesses Rev.11 ? You may have some questions, go ahead and add to this.
  11. If Jesus is not the head of the body church, then it is some other head is ruling. The thing about a body group of people you look at the head and see who it is. Who is in authority of that group ? man's order or bible order
  12. Here is something to consider about a last day, one of the last day was in Acts 2 event. Those scriptures used in John 6, could it really be referring to this ? Acts 2:16-18 (KJV) signs of the HG baptism 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: Ephesians 2:1 (KJV) 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Romans 6:4 (KJV) 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Colossians 2:12 (KJV) 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. Romans 8:11 (KJV) 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Could this be what Jesus was referring to raising up people in their baptism to give them life Jesus did come with the holy spirit to dwell in them. Last days can be for different events. Satan will have his last day which is in Rev. 20
  13. 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 (KJV) 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. "the above five hundred brethren" you might think it was a special selection of people who got to see Jesus after the resurrection. It doesn't mention the women who saw him after his resurrection. So there could have been women with the above five hundred brethren. They weren't with the special 120 in the upper room. But most likely in the 3,000 that received the holy spirit. Sooo could the above five hundred be the Matthew 27 OT worthies resurrection group ? The OT saints did look for a resurrection, they lacked in coming short of the promise.Heb.11 Everybody has to have Jesus to make to heaven including the OT saints, so they would have to hear and except him, so when would that be ? Just a thought
  14. What will be the purpose of that 1,000 years ? You have all these righteous and unrighteous dying and people keep being born into the world. Those that die will they get a resurrection ?...…….. well there is a 2nd resurrection at the end, so that could be a yes ? Humm Then one day God says enough is enough, I got what I want.
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