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  1. Rev. 18:4 "come out of her my people." So Jesus has some people that are in the Harlot City the Beast is part of it with the 10 kings. He calls them to flee from it. Its like the telling in Matthew 24 Jesus tells them to flee Jerusalem. There has to be a church during that time for them to go into for safety. The church is never finished until that last person get saved. Then there is no need for the church function to save people. Ministers will lose their job.
  2. Well it is for sure, when the book of Revelations was written, parts of it was present to the churches. Warning was given to them and showing what was going to happened to the church in the future. Most generally all of is future to them. It seem, that the church in Revelation is in the beginning of the book and throughout to the end of Revelation 22. It seem to tell the condition of the church throughout the history of it to us and the future. Its telling about the falling away to the restoration and its power to convert the world and the destruction of the ungodly world. Jesus is the head of this work on Earth, he will later turn it over to his God the Father. So Jesus uses his tools that is the church to save people until all is done. Just because some goes to heaven does not mean he done here. There will be some people get saved during the Millenium . Will the ungodly exist during that time 1,000 years long ? It tell of a Gog and Magog in Rev.20 at the closing of the Millenium. So there needs to be a church still working to save more people. What is it on Earth is the doorway to salvation ? Jesus's church
  3. Is it a plan or is it predicted ?
  4. Is everything in Revelation God's plans that is going to be carried out for his purposes with mankind ? Another word he causes these events to happen. or Is it that the future is revealed what is going to take place, everything is seen through a crystal ball ?
  5. Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. The question here is, is it natural or spiritual. Did someone cut their heads off or did they cut their own heads off ? Jesus did say "whosoever will lose his life for my sake the same shall save it."
  6. Does Revelation 4,5 and 7 and 21, 22 showing the same group ? Seem to be the same throne setting and praises - when all is done.
  7. So the "here after" is a about 1,900 years separation from the letters to the seven churches until Rev.4 starts ??? That nothing in Revelation reveals anything during the last 1,900 years . Is there anybody that see it differently ?
  8. Rev.21 the city the bride, not in plural. Called a her in Rev.19 So there is not just one person being the bride, but many. A city The Beast may be called a he, but represent many also. There was seven different headship. Rev. 17 ten kings = different nation. Ten kings destroy the Harlot City = The Beast of many turned on each other. My thoughts on this.
  9. A little confusing. Who is blowing the trumpet messages? Someone is preaching to someone. A warning what will happened by the vials if they don't repent and get converted. Isn't that the purpose. If they refuse then the vials is given.
  10. I think the salvation plan stays until the end of the millennium. There is still unsaved people down thru the millennium . Satan goes and gather the unsaved people together at the end. They would have to hear the gospel from someone. Some get converted and some don't. Like today. I do think there is a purpose for the bride members to be ruling with Jesus. And that there is another work in gathering more people into his kingdom in the earth.
  11. Well it says they were. So what is the symbolic of it ? How do you know John was resurrected, I don't think Rome killed him, Herod had that done. I don't read that anybody was resurrected with Jesus
  12. So then there is a church during that time ?
  13. If i get this right - there is still the salvation plan offered to people after the catching away saints. Of course they would be saved in the name of Jesus. Who would they hear it from ?
  14. Do they go together side by side ? First the trumpet message then the vial.
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