tigger398 Posted June 25, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 I agree sin is wrong. If your a true christian, you do your best not to sin. To say were sinless is not possible. Were not Jesus, he alone is sinless. We need Jesus to help with our daily sins. The more he helps with over again sin, the less we want the sin. Did't Paul said something that he sins daily in bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I agree sin is wrong. If your a true christian, you do your best not to sin. To say were sinless is not possible. Were not Jesus, he alone is sinless. We need Jesus to help with our daily sins. The more he helps with over again sin, the less we want the sin. Did't Paul said something that he sins daily in bible. By Johnlove's standard Paul was not born of God because Paul harbored unforgiveness against John Mark AND Paul called himself the chief of sinners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger398 Posted June 25, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 I fond Johnlove way of thinking dangerous. Meaning that if a newly born Christian was to be told that if they sin then they were never saved in the first place, it may make them give up their walk with Christ altogether. I know that when I was a new Christian if I had believed as Johnlove is saying, I would have given up as soon as I started. All of us can lose our way at times. But God is there to take us back if we do. All we have to do is call on him. To make people feel like once they make a mistake in their Christian walk, that they were not true Christians to start with is a very dangerous thing to be telling new Christians. I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger398 Posted June 25, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 562 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,074 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1966 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 What about Peter who denied Jesus three times. Thats a biggie. Was he forgiven when he asked. He did it three times. Don't forget he did it three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlove Posted June 25, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 127 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1934 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I agree sin is wrong. If your a true christian, you do your best not to sin. To say were sinless is not possible. Were not Jesus, he alone is sinless. We need Jesus to help with our daily sins. The more he helps with over again sin, the less we want the sin. Did't Paul said something that he sins daily in bible. You have an opinion, but no scripture to confirm your opinion. (1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlove Posted June 25, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 127 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1934 Share Posted June 25, 2014 What about Peter who denied Jesus three times. Thats a biggie. Was he forgiven when he asked. He did it three times. Don't forget he did it three times. Yes Peter did that, and that was before he received the Holy Spirit. Paul told us in Romans seven just how impossible it is for one to not sin, before he or she receives the Holy Spirit. The following verse tells us how God made it possible to never sin again. By the way if you say the a Christian will sin then you are contradicting John, and that is contradicting the written Word of God. (1 John 3:9) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 What about Peter who denied Jesus three times. Thats a biggie. Was he forgiven when he asked. He did it three times. Don't forget he did it three times. Yes Peter did that, and that was before he received the Holy Spirit. Paul told us in Romans seven just how impossible it is for one to not sin, before he or she receives the Holy Spirit. The following verse tells us how God made it possible to never sin again. By the way if you say the a Christian will sin then you are contradicting John, and that is contradicting the written Word of God. (1 John 3:9) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” A better translation says it this way: No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. (1Jn 3:9) ~ ESV This is more consistent with the Greek than whatever version you are using. The NIV renders it this way: No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. (I John 3:9) Again, this is better and agrees with the Greek. It refers not to committing a single sin but making habit of sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlove Posted June 25, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 127 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1934 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) What about Peter who denied Jesus three times. Thats a biggie. Was he forgiven when he asked. He did it three times. Don't forget he did it three times. Yes Peter did that, and that was before he received the Holy Spirit. Paul told us in Romans seven just how impossible it is for one to not sin, before he or she receives the Holy Spirit. The following verse tells us how God made it possible to never sin again. By the way if you say the a Christian will sin then you are contradicting John, and that is contradicting the written Word of God. (1 John 3:9) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” A better translation says it this way: No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. (1Jn 3:9) ~ ESV This is more consistent with the Greek than whatever version you are using. The NIV renders it this way: No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. (I John 3:9) Again, this is better and agrees with the Greek. It refers not to committing a single sin but making habit of sin. **Comment removed** No translation of any authorized bible ever made up such a lie. Your quote contradicts it self. One does not need to practice sinning. Paul did not say those who practice sinning would not enter the kingdom of God. No one who sins will never enter the kingdom of God/Heaven. (1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.” Edited June 25, 2014 by ncn Uncalled for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfoCentral Posted June 25, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 79 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/13/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 25, 2014 What does light have to do with darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncn Posted June 25, 2014 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 6 Topic Count: 406 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5,248 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 1,337 Days Won: 67 Joined: 08/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 25, 2014 For all those posting on this thread a reminder. Check your attitudes as you post, ensuring that what you are posting is exactly what you want to post. Watch your words. Using passive aggressive statements are just as cutting and demeaning as an outright insult. If you notice that you are getting heated by another’s response, walk away from the thread until you know you have His peace back in your life over the issue. God Bless. Nigel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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