Guest shiloh357 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 There is a difference between brainwashing and false teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted February 22, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2015 There is a difference between brainwashing and false teaching. Brainwashing includes false teaching. It actually begins with false teaching, and control. It also includes a trained dependency, Again, this situation is similar to Stockholm syndrome. The abusers/terrorists using the people to achieve their purposes. Like those who attach to their abusers, believing that the abusers are treating them well, and defending their abusers. Also thinking those outside are the dangerous enemies. ' Stockholm Syndrome Definition: Stockholm Syndrome - Stockholm Syndrome is when a hostage, kidnap victim or abuse victim develops a sense of loyalty or co-operation towards their captor or abuser, disregarding the abuse or the danger and protecting or sustaining the perpetrator. Stockholm syndrome is often referred to in common culture as "brainwashing" or "brainwashing the victim". Brainwashing 1. a method for systematically changing attitudes or altering beliefs, originated in totalitarian countries, especially through the use of torture, drugs, or psychological-stress techniques. 2. any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted February 22, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Itamar-Marcus-Palestinians-children-hate/2014/05/28/id/573824/ Palestinians are on a sickening mission to make their children hate Jews and want to kill them, says Itamar Marcus, founder and director of Palestinian Media Watch. "With all this hate ideology Palestinians are giving their kids in the name of Islam, they are literally guaranteeing that we will never be able to have peace with the next generation," Marcus told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV. "When you teach kids that Jews are the enemies of Allah — the most evil of his creations and descendants of monkeys and pigs — those are Islamic religious concepts [that] supersede any Palestinian-Israeli agreement that could ever happen in the future,'' he said Wednesday.http://arabisraeliconflict.info/arab-israel-facts/fact8-palestinian-children **removed"" Edited February 22, 2015 by ncn Please do not post links to youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yes and while brainwashing includes false teaching, it is not solely false teaching. Brainwashing is ususally meant to reprogram a person to change their entire perspective or paradigm. Teaching impressionable young children is indoctrination, not brainwashing. I am not saying that no brainwashing is ever done, but educating naive children to hate the way the Palestinians do, is not in that particular case, brainwashing. Sorry but most of Islamic radicalism isn't the product of brainwashing. It is an actual culture that people are born into and taught from a young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted February 22, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yes and while brainwashing includes false teaching, it is not solely false teaching. Brainwashing is ususally meant to reprogram a person to change their entire perspective or paradigm. Teaching impressionable young children is indoctrination, not brainwashing. I am not saying that no brainwashing is ever done, but educating naive children to hate the way the Palestinians do, is not in that particular case, brainwashing. Sorry but most of Islamic radicalism isn't the product of brainwashing. It is an actual culture that people are born into and taught from a young age. I guess you choose to ignore the definition. Brainwashing 2. any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion: That is exactly what occurs. School books, childrens programs on TV. etc. etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yes, but brainwashing has the added component of reprogramming how a person thinks or perceives reality. You can't reprogram a child who is still in his or her formative years. That's the difference. When its just educating someone without a previous worldview, it's just indoctrination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted February 22, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2015 Does it really matter what its called? It doesnt change the reality that they are brought up to hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted February 22, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2015 Does it really matter what its called? It doesnt change the reality that they are brought up to hate. The difference is in the view of these children. The 'palestinians' have been manipulated by the terrorist factions. They have been lied to and since they only heard lies, they believe them. It is a very very sad situation. An entire population of people have been sacrificed, brainwashed, abused, and trained to sacrifice their own children. Golda Meier, the 4th Prime Minister of Israel, is often quoted for her witty observant statements. One such statement was: Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us. To sacrifice ones own child, is such an aberration of the normal, that it can only come from brainwashing, to believe that it is an honor to the mother when a child kills themselves to kill others. It is an aberration for a child to think that committing suicide to kill others is a good thing to do. These are human beings, not monsters. But what these kids are being taught is monsterous. No little child would normally think of committing suicide or murdering. Another Golda Meier quote which is very similar to the last but expresses something important. We can forgive [them] for killing our children. We cannot forgive them from forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with [them] when they love their children more than they hate us. Imagine being an Israeli soldier and being forced to kill a child because that child has been taught to kill by committing suicide. And not just one, but several children having to be killed. And if we can not call what is happening to these children horrendous brainwashing and abuse, well, ... There isn't much that can be done with these little children who are being so grossly abused, but be extremely sad, and to pray for them. These children who die, and even those who survive to adulthood are victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Qnts, your own definitions about brainwashing stated very clearly that it is about changing how someone thinks. That is not what you do with children who have not yet formed their paradigm and are effectively a blank slate. You are not changing anything but creating a brand new paradigm. Now an adult can be brainwashed and effectively radicalized, but that involves changing how they think. You just need to come to grips with that. The Palestinians are by in large, not "brainwashed." They are indoctrinated with revisionist history and an ideology of hate from a young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted February 22, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.34 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) well, I still disagree, but its not a big deal, as the statement isn't true anyway-not all terrorists are muslim. The more precise statement would be "all Islamic Jihadist terrorists are Muslim". What the West has deliberately failed to believe to its own detriment is that Radical Islam declared war on the Great Satan (the USA) and the entire western world when Ayatollah Khomeini came to power (decades ago). All the various Islamic Jihadists have one goal in mind -- destroy the West and its values and enthrone Islam, the Caliphate and Sharia Law. All the Arab and Muslim nations support and fund these terrorists. They want to see a Radical Islamic Empire worldwide. And they will kill moderate Muslims do achieve that. Muslims have also knowingly poured into Europe and North America to establish numerical superiority and undermine Western values and laws. Take another look at what is happening throughout the Western world. The Koran plainly teaches hatred against Christians and Jews, no matter how much you want to whitewash that. The president of the USA is a crypto-Muslim and has done everything in his power to destroy America from within. ISIS has declared war on the West and all religions other than radical Islam. When will people wake to the reality that this is a war to the death, where the Islamists are not afraid of giving up their lives to achieve their objectives? And there is indeed "guilt by association" by the very fact that Muslims cannot and will not speak out against the Koran and what it teaches. We could quote chapter and verse from the Koran (which BTW every Muslim believes is superior to the Bible, just as Mohammad is superior to Jesus). Edited February 22, 2015 by Ezra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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