Is the mark of the beast identified or speculated of what it is?

[SINNERSAVED]

Hello all , I know this topic might have been around for awhile but it is great to see with the technology of today and the current events we faced , the real question is, what is the mark of the beast? and is it the same for every one around the world or several different things, or is it limited to just one group , many say this is ,and that is, the mark, like the rfid, chip ?, and others say the muslim headband and wrist band is it, what do you say  it is, ? and how are we able to know that it is the mark of the beast, I totally

know what the scripture said He causes the great and small not to be able to buy or sell unless they had the mark , and those that refuse or did not worship the beast was killed, in todays society, my opinion is this and its just me after a credible amount of research, I came up with a couple things that is of my own , do not put anything in your body, that does not belong there especially a RFID chip, but I believe that what ever this mark will be, it will be of a physical awareness of what it is, and you as a person according to the scriptures will be able to except it or reject it, this reminds me of the three that would not bow and was thrown into the fire , and they came back out unharmed  but the by standers were killed, and they believe that jesus was walking with them, for this is the scene that comes to mind, when I hear about the mark of the beast. please help me to understand and feel free to give me your opinions and scripture reference, thank you all for your help.

[Bible2]

SINNERSAVED said in post 1:

 

Is the mark of the beast identified or speculated of what it is?

 

The "mark of the beast" (Revelation 13:16-17, Revelation 16:2) will be a literal, physical mark which will be visible to people, so they can easily tell in every situation whether or not someone should be permitted to buy or sell (Revelation 13:17). It will be visible also because the original Greek of Revelation 13:16 shows that the mark will be placed only "on" (epi), not inside, people's right hands or foreheads. Also, it will be placed on people probably by scarification. For in Revelation 13:16, one of the definitions of the original Greek word (charagma: G5480) translated as the "mark" is "a scratch or etching" (Strong's Greek Dictionary), and scarification is the scratching or etching (i.e. the cutting) of the skin to leave a permanent mark. The reason that people will be given the mark in Revelation 13:16, in the context of what had just been shown previously in Revelation 13:4,8,15, will be to serve as a visible indicator to other people that they are loyal worshippers of Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9) and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) and his image (Revelation 13:4,8,15), just as some Luciferians today put a mark on themselves by scarification.

 

The mark will consist of only the Antichrist's name "or" some representation of the gematrial number of his name (666) (Revelation 13:17-18), meaning that the mark will be the Antichrist's name for some people and a representation of the gematrial number of his name for other people. And the mark will be placed only on the right hand (probably on the palm) "or" on the forehead (Revelation 13:16), meaning that it will be placed on the right hand of some people and on the forehead of other people.

 

Those who refuse to receive the Antichrist's mark won't be allowed to buy or sell anything (Revelation 13:17), and they will be executed by being beheaded if they refuse to worship the Antichrist and his image (Revelation 13:15, Revelation 20:4). Christians must be willing to suffer this fate rather than agree to receive the Antichrist's mark or worship him or his image, for those people who agree to do these things, even if they are Christians, will suffer God's wrath in fire and brimstone forever (Revelation 14:9-13), while those Christians who refuse to do these things, even though they will be beheaded, will subsequently be physically resurrected into immortality (along with the rest of the obedient church of all times) at Jesus' 2nd coming (Revelation 20:4-6; 1 Corinthians 15:21-23,52-58), immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31). And even before their resurrection, at the moment of their death, their still-conscious souls will be brought into the presence of Jesus in heaven (cf. 2 Corinthians 5:8, Philippians 1:21,23, Revelation 6:9-10, Luke 23:43,46).

 

In the future, when the world begins to worship the Antichrist as God (Revelation 13:8; 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36), some people could gladly be willing to have his name placed by scarification on their right palm, just as lovers in the past were sometimes known to have their loved ones' initials placed by scarification on their palm (cf. also Isaiah 49:16, Jeremiah 48:37, Leviticus 19:28, Leviticus 21:5). Other of the Antichrist's worshippers could gladly be willing to have his name placed by scarification on their forehead, thinking (mistakenly) that they are fulfilling the Christian idea of Revelation 22:4, which refers to the future point in time when Jesus will put God's name visibly on the forehead of obedient Christians (Revelation 3:12). The Antichrist's miracle-working False Prophet, who will be the one to cause everyone to be marked with the Antichrist's mark (Revelation 13:16-18), could even convince people that he (the False Prophet) is Jesus returned. (But he won't say that he is Christ, for he and the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Christ, and will deny that Christ is in the flesh: 1 John 2:22; 2 John 1:7.)

 

Instead of having the Antichrist's name engraved on their right hand or forehead, some of his worshippers will have the gematrial number of his name (666) (Revelation 13:17c-18) engraved on their right hand or forehead. But because some people could refuse to have "666" placed on their body, in order to make a mark of 666 acceptable to all people, it could be disguised to look like something else in those cases where people demand something other than "666". For example, it could be disguised in some cases to look like "777", or "111", or "WWW", or "VVV", or "|| || ||", or "FFF". For the 6th letter of the ancient Hebrew alphabet (Vav) represents the number 6, but it looks like a "7", or a "1", and it is transliterated into English as either a "W" or a "V". Also, 2 thin vertical lines "||" represent the number 6 on many UPC codes. And the letter "F" has a numerical value of 6 in English gematria.

 

In an awful coincidence (or maybe it is not just a coincidence), "FFF" also stands for an extremely powerful type of nuclear bomb: Fission-Fusion-Fission. Could this be the type of bomb which the 10 kings of the Antichrist's empire will employ to burn up the cities of the nations at the end of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Revelation 17:12,16,17a, Revelation 16:19, Revelation 19:2,11)?

 

The "WWW" which has been placed on many internet addresses, and the "|| || ||" which has been placed across many UPC codes on products (i.e. they have a "||" at the beginning, middle, and end of their UPC codes), are harbingers of when Lucifer will give the Antichrist ownership of everything on the earth (Revelation 13:2b; cf. Luke 4:7), and of the Antichrist placing his "brand" on everything, like how a rancher places his "brand" on all his cattle. For both "WWW" and "|| || ||" are disguised representations of the gematrial number of the Antichrist's name: 666 (Revelation 13:17c-18). But Revelation 13:16 isn't fulfilled by some internet addresses having a "WWW", nor by some products having "|| || ||" on their UPC codes. For Revelation 13:16 refers only to when people will be given the Antichrist's mark, on either their right hand or forehead.

 

Those assigned to have the mark placed on their forehead (instead of on their right hand) (Revelation 13:16) could be an elite, illumined, cognoscenti class of Gnostic Luciferians who alone will have been given knowledge of the ultimate secrets of the Antichrist's Gnostic Luciferianism. The Antichrist will be both a Luciferian, a worshipper of Lucifer/Satan the dragon (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9), and a Gnostic, someone who denies that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3), and forbids marriage and the eating of meat (1 Timothy 4:1-3). The cream of his cognoscenti could be a faux 144,000, consisting of male virgins (as a counterfeit of Revelation 14:4) who have never eaten meat. If they receive on their forehead the mark of the Antichrist's name (instead of a representation of the number of his name) (Revelation 13:17), this will be as a counterfeit of YHWH's 144,000 in Revelation 14:1. But the Antichrist won't  pretend that he is YHWH, just as he won't pretend that he is Christ. Instead, as a Gnostic, he will utterly revile YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36). And his Gnostic denial that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3) will disqualify him (under his mistaken Gnostic doctrine) from being Christ.

[SINNERSAVED]

You know brother I don't really get the 144,ooo male virgins of the twelve tribes, and how they play the row in the end times or really what they stand for,  I have had another cultic group come to my door saying they are going to be the part of the 144,000 but they don't realize it is virgin males of the twelve tribes as stated in the bible , my only thing is to try to see where they really fit in , along with the fifth seal of the saints and the 42 month of satan to over come , and then you have the two witness are they at the same time of the 144,000?  if you can help me on this it be great , thank you for all of your help you are helping me  and I appreciate it,  thank you and blessings to you with my prayers.

[Watching for Jesus]

I believe the 144,000 are Jewish men.  They will be protected by God in the wilderness along with the rest of the Jewish people for the 1,260 days period.  They will be sealed on the day of the Lord; which is the last day of the 1,260 days period.  They are sealed because they are the firstfruits of the harvest.  After the harvest; they will help Jesus when He comes down to fight for Jerusalem (Zechariah, Chapter 12).

 

As for the mark of the beast; I don't think we will know what it is until after the antichrist comes and sets up the abomination of desolation; and the false prophet makes the image of the beast.  I believe these events are close to the end of the 1,260 days period.

 

Jeff

Edited August 6, 2015 by Watching for Jesus

[missmuffet]

Question: "What is the mark of the beast?"

Answer: The main passage in the Bible that mentions the “mark of the beast” is Revelation 13:15-18. Other references can be found in Revelation 14:9, 11, 15:2, 16:2, 19:20, and 20:4. This mark acts as a seal for the followers of Antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the Antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead and is not simply a card someone carries.

The recent breakthroughs in medical implant chip and RFID technologies have increased interest in the mark of the beast spoken of in Revelation chapter 13. It is possible that the technology we are seeing today represents the beginning stages of what may eventually be used as the mark of the beast. It is important to realize that a medical implant chip is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be something given only to those who worship the Antichrist. Having a medical or financial microchip inserted into your right hand or forehead is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be an end-times identification required by the Antichrist in order to buy or sell, and it will be given only to those who worship the Antichrist.

Many good expositors of Revelation differ widely as to the exact nature of the mark of the beast. Besides the implanted chip view, other speculations include an ID card, a microchip, a barcode that is tattooed into the skin, or simply a mark that identifies someone as being faithful to the Antichrist's kingdom. This last view requires the least speculation, since it does not add any more information to what the Bible gives us. In other words, any of these things are possible, but at the same time they are all speculations. We should not spend a lot of time speculating on the precise details.

The meaning of 666 is a mystery as well. Some speculated that there was a connection to June 6, 2006—06/06/06. However, in Revelation chapter 13, the number 666 identifies a person, not a date. Revelation 13:18 tells us, “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.” Somehow, the number 666 will identify the Antichrist. For centuries Bible interpreters have been trying to identify certain individuals with 666. Nothing is conclusive. That is why Revelation 13:18 says the number requires wisdom. When the Antichrist is revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), it will be clear who he is and how the number 666 identifies him.

http://www.gotquestions.org/mark-beast.html

[missmuffet]

I believe the 144,000 are Jewish men.  They will be protected by God in the wilderness along with the rest of the Jewish people for the 1,260 days period.  They will be sealed on the day of the Lord; which is the last day of the 1,260 days period.  They are sealed because they are the firstfruits of the harvest.  After the harvest; they will help Jesus when He comes down to fight for Jerusalem (Zechariah, Chapter 12).

 

Jeff

What does that have to do with the MOB ?

[missmuffet]

Has anyone received a new bank card with a chip in it?All the banks are going to require that.

[Watching for Jesus]

 

I believe the 144,000 are Jewish men.  They will be protected by God in the wilderness along with the rest of the Jewish people for the 1,260 days period.  They will be sealed on the day of the Lord; which is the last day of the 1,260 days period.  They are sealed because they are the firstfruits of the harvest.  After the harvest; they will help Jesus when He comes down to fight for Jerusalem (Zechariah, Chapter 12).

 

Jeff

What does that have to do with the MOB ?

 

Hi bopeep,

 

Nothing.  I was responding to post number 3.  I edited my post to give my opinion of the mark.

 

Jeff

 

[missmuffet]

 

 

I believe the 144,000 are Jewish men.  They will be protected by God in the wilderness along with the rest of the Jewish people for the 1,260 days period.  They will be sealed on the day of the Lord; which is the last day of the 1,260 days period.  They are sealed because they are the firstfruits of the harvest.  After the harvest; they will help Jesus when He comes down to fight for Jerusalem (Zechariah, Chapter 12).

 

Jeff

What does that have to do with the MOB ?

 

Hi bopeep,

 

Nothing.  I was responding to post number 3.  I edited my post to give my opinion of the mark.

 

Jeff

 

 

Oh ok 

[missmuffet]

You know brother I don't really get the 144,ooo male virgins of the twelve tribes, and how they play the row in the end times or really what they stand for,  I have had another cultic group come to my door saying they are going to be the part of the 144,000 but they don't realize it is virgin males of the twelve tribes as stated in the bible , my only thing is to try to see where they really fit in , along with the fifth seal of the saints and the 42 month of satan to over come , and then you have the two witness are they at the same time of the 144,000?  if you can help me on this it be great , thank you for all of your help you are helping me  and I appreciate it,  thank you and blessings to you with my prayers.

Who do you think the 144,000 are saved?