newnature Posted March 1, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 148 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/21/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 1, 2016 Ministers of righteousness will ever more keep that issue of sins on the table of God’s justice. They will continually want us to do this and stop doing that, in order to keep God happy with us when the reality is: God couldn’t be any happier with us than he is; Christ having taken our sin debt upon himself, and we having trusted what happened where our sins are concerned. Sin is gone as far as the judicial aspect of sin from God’s vantage point. It is taken care of once and for all! People will suffer the second death not because of the sins God’s son pain for. They will suffer the second death because they have never been clothed with the righteousness of Christ. They have kept sin on the table of God’s justice their entire lifetimes and sat under ministers of righteousness who have led the way. Dispensing the message of that new program would not begin until Paul received the revelations necessary to do the dispensing. So, the dispensing of the message did not come when Paul was converted, but we know for a fact, that Paul was judicially joined to Christ at the point of his belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted March 4, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2016 The apostle said "Consider yourselves to be dead unto sin." Why is it that the true gospel which puts an end to the old life is the most neglected? People prefer to be able to struggle with some kind of spiritual achievement, (Paganism) rather than simply accept, fully accept, the righteousness of Christ on their behalf. Broad is the way to destruction, narrow the gate to salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,859 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,763 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2016 On 1 March, 2016 at 9:14 AM, newnature said: Ministers of righteousness will ever more keep that issue of sins on the table of God’s justice. They will continually want us to do this and stop doing that, in order to keep God happy with us when the reality is: God couldn’t be any happier with us than he is; Christ having taken our sin debt upon himself, and we having trusted what happened where our sins are concerned. Sin is gone as far as the judicial aspect of sin from God’s vantage point. It is taken care of once and for all! People will suffer the second death not because of the sins God’s son pain for. They will suffer the second death because they have never been clothed with the righteousness of Christ. They have kept sin on the table of God’s justice their entire lifetimes and sat under ministers of righteousness who have led the way. Dispensing the message of that new program would not begin until Paul received the revelations necessary to do the dispensing. So, the dispensing of the message did not come when Paul was converted, but we know for a fact, that Paul was judicially joined to Christ at the point of his belief. It is about time, that some one has the courage to revolt from the fear of sin, thank you. The wages of sin, any sin, ( which is not recomented), is not death when someone stands in the righteousness of Jesus Christ by faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnature Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 148 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/21/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Kan said: The apostle said "Consider yourselves to be dead unto sin." Why is it that the true gospel which puts an end to the old life is the most neglected? People prefer to be able to struggle with some kind of spiritual achievement, (Paganism) rather than simply accept, fully accept, the righteousness of Christ on their behalf. Broad is the way to destruction, narrow the gate to salvation. Their also many people preaching Paul’s words and proclaiming them to be true, are doing so without fully understanding what Paul has just said, they say the words much like they would say the words of the gospel - for Christ died for our sins - without really fully understanding or ever coming to comprehend what happened to the sins Christ died for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnature Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 148 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/21/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 4 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: It is about time, that some one has the courage to revolt from the fear of sin, thank you. The wages of sin, any sin, ( which is not recomented), is not death when someone stands in the righteousness of Jesus Christ by faith. Paul’s message is unique and distinct from the message of Jesus Christ and the 12 apostles, there is difference in God’s earthly program and God’s heavenly program, what traditions of people must be left behind if we take the doctrine of Paul seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,859 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,763 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2016 15 minutes ago, newnature said: Paul’s message is unique and distinct from the message of Jesus Christ and the 12 apostles, there is difference in God’s earthly program and God’s heavenly program, what traditions of people must be left behind if we take the doctrine of Paul seriously? If I may our sins are not considered against us, to sent us to Hell. As believers we have our own righteousness, and also have the imputed righteousness of the Savior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: If I may our sins are not considered against us, to sent us to Hell. As believers we have our own righteousness, and also have the imputed righteousness of the Savior. Do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnature Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 148 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/21/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: If I may our sins are not considered against us, to sent us to Hell. As believers we have our own righteousness, and also have the imputed righteousness of the Savior. 8 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: If I may our sins are not considered against us, to sent us to Hell. As believers we have our own righteousness, and also have the imputed righteousness of the Savior. The fact that Christ became a redeemer of the world, does not mean that the world will accept the gift the Redeemer purchased on their behalf. Christ’s faithfulness was the only faithfulness sufficient to merit God’s favor. God used our faith in Christ’s faithfulness as the means whereby he would credit Christ’s righteousness to our account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,859 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,763 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Kan said: Do we? What do you mean, every one has his own righteousness believer and unbiever, every one has a consience, and is judge by it and also a group consience, that is judge by it, and a community consience, and so on. But our own rightsneoussness is not the one that takes us blameless before God, if we are worthy anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnature Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 148 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/21/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: What do you mean, every one has his own righteousness believer and unbiever, every one has a consience, and is judge by it and also a group consience, that is judge by it, and a community consience, and so on. But our own rightsneoussness is not the one that takes us blameless before God, if we are worthy anyways. Walk worthy of the vocation that belongs to us, because God has freely given it to us, we have been justified freely, sanctified in Jesus Christ, how should we be conducting ourselves. We should conduct ourselves in a manner conducive to the job that God’s given us, it is our ambassadorship of the message of reconciliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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