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48 The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?”

49 “I am not possessed by a demon,” said Jesus, “but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. 50 I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death.”

This is from John chapter 8. What does Jesus mean in verse 50?

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On 24/06/2016 at 0:33 PM, Rick_Parker said:

GOD is seeking the Glory of HIS Son, Jesus Christ....

....and will judge all who fail to give Him this glory.

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Jesus is telling them, God the Father honors Me by working miracles through Me, and by supporting My every claim. If He is your God, why do you not support Me also?

You lie when you say you know Him, I would lie if I said that I do not know Him . I prove that I know Him by My obedience to Him. You prove you that you do not know Him by rejecting Me whom He has sent (V. 39-56).

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What Jesus means in this verse is that He is not seeking to promote Himself (as many self-styled "messiahs" had done in the past), but was instead doing the work of the Father in heaven and would leave any glorification to Him. In other words, Jesus was not depending upon men to give Him glory, but the Father. This frees Jesus (and us who follow His example) from seeking the praise of men; instead, we work for the Father and seek His approval.

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On 6/24/2016 at 6:47 AM, SIC said:

50 I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge.

This translation is not quite accurate. The correct rendering is in the ASV:

American Standard Version
But I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.

Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894
ἐγὼ δὲ οὐ ζητῶ τὴν δόξαν μου· ἔστιν ὁ ζητῶν καὶ κρίνων.

So it is God the Father who seeks the glory of Christ, and rightly judges that  glory belongs to the Son as much as to the Father. This corresponds to John 17:5: And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

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15 minutes ago, Ezra said:

This translation is not quite accurate. The correct rendering is in the ASV:

American Standard Version
But I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.

Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894
ἐγὼ δὲ οὐ ζητῶ τὴν δόξαν μου· ἔστιν ὁ ζητῶν καὶ κρίνων.

So it is God the Father who seeks the glory of Christ, and rightly judges that  glory belongs to the Son as much as to the Father. This corresponds to John 17:5: And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Thank you

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11 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said:

Isn't that what I said?

you can't say the right things enough here in this world :thumbsup: 

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4 hours ago, Rick_Parker said:

Isn't that what I said?

I am sorry. You meant the same thing . He was more elaborate and hence I understood. 

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