wincam Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 114 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) are aborted babies born again - surely they more than any need to be born again - btw why do they as the victims have to pay for the crime - wincam Edited August 14, 2016 by wincam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flsnookman Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 216 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 165 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/19/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2016 Anyone who thinks babies who die or are murdered go anywhere but Heaven should take another look about what Jesus says about children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wincam Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 114 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 15 minutes ago, Flsnookman said: Anyone who thinks babies who die or are murdered go anywhere but Heaven should take another look about what Jesus says about children. so are you saying Jn.3:5 just does not apply here - wincam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.77 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, wincam said: Yes, all babies and children go to heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flsnookman Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 216 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 165 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/19/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2016 Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flsnookman Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 216 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 165 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/19/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2016 11 minutes ago, wincam said: John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Hmmm, seems to read MAN as in adult. Again this point is so obvious that I wont even argue it with you. If you truly believe babies who die do not go to Heaven then you simply do not know Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wincam Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 114 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 19 minutes ago, Flsnookman said: John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Hmmm, seems to read MAN as in adult. Again this point is so obvious that I wont even argue it with you. If you truly believe babies who die do not go to Heaven then you simply do not know Jesus. what makes you think I believe that - did you not see my other post re 'saved before birth' - wincam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 hour ago, wincam said: are aborted babies born again - surely they more than any need to be born again - btw why do they as the victims have to pay for the crime - wincam No one believes babies have to be born again as babies. That's nonsense. Most of us believe, myself included, that babies are held in a state of innocence until they can make a decision for Jesus and if they die before that time comes, they go to be with Jesus. I don't know anyone of sound mind and sound doctrine that believes otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wincam Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 114 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No one believes babies have to be born again as babies. That's nonsense. Most of us believe, myself included, that babies are held in a state of innocence until they can make a decision for Jesus and if they die before that time comes, they go to be with Jesus. I don't know anyone of sound mind and sound doctrine that believes otherwise. you had better have a word with the born again Christians - wincam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 14, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.77 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2016 23 minutes ago, wincam said: you had better have a word with the born again Christians - wincam I am a born again Christian and what shiloh said is Biblically correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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