Married women and their money

[Kindle]

11 hours ago, Leonardo Von said:

Right. Thank you for your help. May Jesus continue to bless you.

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[Ezra]

On 1/30/2017 at 0:19 PM, missmuffet said:

Some men control with their money.

And some women control with their charms.  So what? There are all kinds of evil people in this world, both men and women.

[missmuffet]

3 hours ago, Ezra said:

And some women control with their charms.  So what? There are all kinds of evil people in this world, both men and women.

So what?

[Blessed_Monk]

On 9/3/2016 at 3:06 PM, missmuffet said:

So how should a married couple handle their financial situations?

1. Should they have a joint account and everything they earn go into the same account?

2. Should they have separate accounts and what is his is his and what is hers is hers?

3. Who should pay the bills?

4. What if you have a spender and the other more frugal?

On of the biggest problems in a marriage is money.

Great symbol.

I think a family join account is necessary in a marriage. I also think a spouse should have their own independence fund that's in their name alone. Just in case anything goes wrong they have a financial cushion to survive it.

[Heavenunlimited]

Yes, I can sign that one whole heartedly. As someone experienced to be abused and threatened to be thrown out, and having no money i.e. Nowhere to go, I would insist, its important. Or who knows, death, illnesses, unexpected situations..  

Im for one for joint and as well each theirs. In these days you really have to have a bank account with money going in, as your credit history, your ability to even have a phone, credit, the small things even you need a bank account with money in it. You cant even prescribe to something without. So its not just oh, and the usual. Its about being practical.

[Ezra]

18 hours ago, missmuffet said:

So what?

So there's no need to promote the idea that men are evil and women are not.  There are some very diabolical women, and so we have the saying that the female of the species is more deadly than the male (Kipling).

When the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

Man's timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn't his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husband, each confirms the other's tale --
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.

Man, a bear in most relations-worm and savage otherwise, --
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.

Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger --- Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue --  to the scandal of The Sex!

But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.

She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity -- must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions -- not in these her honour dwells.
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.

She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.

She is wedded to convictions -- in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies! --
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.

Unprovoked and awful charges --  even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons -- even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish -- like the Jesuit with the squaw!

So it cames that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice -- which no woman understands.

And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern -- shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.

Whether it is in Christian marriages or non-Christian marriages, husbands and wives generally understand that after marriage there is no such thing as "his money" vs "her money".  It becomes "their money", and if that is not feasible, they would be better off not marrying.But for Christians, this goes much further, since God sees them as a SINGLE ENTITY.  

[Blessed_Monk]

1 hour ago, Ezra said:

So there's no need to promote the idea that men are evil and women are not.  There are some very diabolical women, and so we have the saying that the female of the species is more deadly than the male (Kipling).

When the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.

Man's timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn't his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husband, each confirms the other's tale --
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.

Man, a bear in most relations-worm and savage otherwise, --
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.

Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger --- Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue --  to the scandal of The Sex!

But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.

She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity -- must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions -- not in these her honour dwells.
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.

She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.

She is wedded to convictions -- in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies! --
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.

Unprovoked and awful charges --  even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons -- even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish -- like the Jesuit with the squaw!

So it cames that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice -- which no woman understands.

And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern -- shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.

Whether it is in Christian marriages or non-Christian marriages, husbands and wives generally understand that after marriage there is no such thing as "his money" vs "her money".  It becomes "their money", and if that is not feasible, they would be better off not marrying.But for Christians, this goes much further, since God sees them as a SINGLE ENTITY.  

First you state there's no need to promote the idea that men are evil and women are not. Then you introduce a Kipling quote that claims the female species is more deadly than the male. What you do not read there is that Kipling is speaking of polar bears, not people.

Kipling said, God couldn't be everywhere so he created mothers. Kipling did not hate women.

I shall always feel sorry for women who in dating a man don't realize until after the I do that they've married a cad. One who imagines because they think God on their side, they can see women as losing their identity as soon as the veil and dress are stored away. And from that moment on are property of that one who now says, you did and now you ever shall.

What such men do not understand about oneness in marriage could fill a book. The travesty is rather than write that one those type males will grab the book that is the Bible itself. And corrupt it to their way of thinking as they cite scripture and verse as to why a woman is to be less than because of her sex.

A good marriage can carry two people to paradise. A bad marriage to Hell. In the latter vows a couple takes before the altar each one says, till death us do part. In a marriage to an evil spouse even while still breathing there are a great many ways to die.

 

 

 

 

[missmuffet]

15 minutes ago, Blessed_Monk said:

First you state there's no need to promote the idea that men are evil and women are not. Then you introduce a Kipling quote that claims the female species is more deadly than the male. What you do not read there is that Kipling is speaking of polar bears, not people.

Kipling said, God couldn't be everywhere so he created mothers. Kipling did not hate women.

I shall always feel sorry for women who in dating a man don't realize until after the I do that they've married a cad. One who imagines because they think God on their side, they can see women as losing their identity as soon as the veil and dress are stored away. And from that moment on are property of that one who now says, you did and now you ever shall.

What such men do not understand about oneness in marriage could fill a book. The travesty is rather than write that one those type males will grab the book that is the Bible itself. And corrupt it to their way of thinking as they cite scripture and verse as to why a woman is to be less than because of her sex.

A good marriage can carry two people to paradise. A bad marriage to Hell. In the latter vows a couple takes before the altar each one says, till death us do part. In a marriage to an evil spouse even while still breathing there are a great many ways to die.

 

 

 

 

I appreciated you post. Words of wisdom

[Ezra]

23 minutes ago, Blessed_Monk said:

What you do not read there is that Kipling is speaking of polar bears, not people.

That is really funny. Polar bears don't exist in the Himalayas. The point of Kipling's poem was that the female of the species is more deadly than the male.  Looks like you wish to avoid that observation and would rather focus on "those evil men".

[Blessed_Monk]

2 minutes ago, Ezra said:

That is really funny. Polar bears don't exist in the Himalayas. The point of Kipling's poem was that the female of the species is more deadly than the male.  Looks like you wish to avoid that observation and would rather focus on "those evil men".

The observation? That in your zeal to speak ill of women you did not read your own Rudyard Kipling copy and paste? One that is speaking of bears not women.