woundeddog Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,370 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 1,054 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/21/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/18/1868 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Yowm said: can you swat it not in this forum- ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 hours ago, RustyAngeL said: 4 hours ago, RustyAngeL said: Sorry Hoddie, The Church is not the Catholic Church, it is the body of believers in Jesus, not a physical building. Oh....... I see... you think the Church is invisible or something... right? Well, let's just see about that, Scripturally and historicly. Certainly it was to a visible, authoritative body that Christ declared, addressing its first earthly leader, "I will entrust to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 16:19). What good would it have done to bestow the keys upon a Church so formless as to defy any effort to identify it? Then, too, Christ speaks of a visible Church when he recommends recourse to it for settling disputes among his followers: "Refer it to the Church" (Matt. 18:17). He tells his followers, who make us the Church on earth, that they are "the light of the world. A city set on a mountain cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and then put it under a bushel basket; it is set on a lampstand, where it gives light to all in the house" (Matt. 5:14-15; see also Luke 8:16,11:33). So Rusty, could you please explain these verses if you believe that the Church which Christ founded is a invisible church? Also In 1Cor. 12:28 it says: "Some people God has designated in the church to be, first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then, mighty deeds; then, gifts of healing, assistance, administration, and varieties of tongues." Explain to me Rusty how any of these members of Christ's Church be invivible? How could they communicate? How could the 'power of administration govern an 'invisible' Church? In your bible, does Matt.16:18 read.... "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my 'invisible' Church?" My bible sure dosen't. Even the early Church Father Ignatius of Antioch speaks of a visible Church when he outlines its nature in 107, marking it, for the first time of which we have record, as the "Catholic Church": "Where the bishop is found, there let the people be, even as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." So Sorry Rusty, the Catholic Church is the church founded by by Jesus Christ as Scripture and history proves. Would you care to share what church it is you are a member of, and when and by whom was it started? I would love to see any historical documentation showing its existence prior to the sixtenth century. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 49 minutes ago, Ezra said: More delusion. Come on Erza, I know you can do better than this impotent responce. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 41 minutes ago, woundeddog said: My Grandfather once told me that the best way to deal with a pet peeve is to stop feeding it and it will go away and find somewhere else to live~~~~~~~~ just sayin Yes, I relize some of my questions and rebuttles make some feel uncomfortable and are difficult or down right impossible for some to take on.... (from a Catholic no less!) But going away is not an option, somebody has to keep the anti-Catholics and thier untruths of the Catholic faith in check! ---- Just sayin Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 43 minutes ago, woundeddog said: not in this forum- ;-) Si!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 46 minutes ago, Yowm said: What if peevy keeps biting at your heels, can you swat it? lol Sorry if I annoy you. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 55 minutes ago, Yowm said: It would take more than just 'claiming' truth by the Holy Spirit. It would take proper examination of Scripture comparing Scripture with Scripture (after all, the Holy Spirit will not contradict His Word). There also are some areas of truths where not all is revealed and we should be satisfied with knowing our understanding is limited, i.e. we see through a dark glass but then... So in other words Yowm, you would rather not.... or cannot answer who would be in error. Okay! Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Yowm said: You don't annoy me, actually I feel a bit sorry for you. That is your right. I will continue to keep you in my prayers Yowm. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: Either A or B or both would be in error...and as I said we don't have all truths but often see through a glass darkly. Interesting statement Yowm, I thought for those that adhere to the Sola Scriptura Doctrine, all truths can be found amongst the pages of Scripture? Or in other words.... Scripture alone is sufficient as a sole rule of faith. Anybody else believe the same as Yowm? Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddie Posted November 21, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/07/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Yowm said: A big reason why I feel sorry for you...http://www.christianpost.com/news/pope-francis-prays-in-turkeys-mosque-head-bowed-toward-mecca-130449/ or http://www.wsj.com/articles/pope-francis-prays-in-mosque-in-sign-of-commitment-to-christian-muslim-relations-1417282839 How do you know the pope wasn't praying to God for the conversion of those in Islam? unless These anti-Catholic web-sites can now read minds. which is it? Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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