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1 hour ago, Cobalt1959 said:

You keep saying this over and over when you know it is false. 

You don't know what I know.  My conclusions are well thought through and I am fully convinced they are accurate.
 Rom 14:5One man regards a certain day above the others, whilesomeone else considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 
 

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2 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Yes and they can read how you mishandle and butcher the Scripture.  If you were a Christian, it might make a difference how you look at Scripture.

Ouch.  You have impaled my heart. 

 

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4 hours ago, Willa said:

We have been taught situation ethics for so long that some don't recognize the truth when they hear it.  Or they reject the truth.

The truth is that Paul did not respect women based on their gender and

so failed to implement the fundamental law of the scriptures. 

This was approved by even more men who assembled the scriptures. 
Matthew 7:12    In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the prophets.

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17 minutes ago, SkyWriting said:

You don't know what I know.

You posted what you know - Based on one post, or all of them, it was shown to you by others here more than enough to show that you completely rejected Jesus , rejected His Word, rejected the Apostles, and you have refused to honor Yahweh,

as you also posted you set your own thoughts above Yahweh's Word. 

Yahweh reveals all that happens,  and His Perfect Judgment for all who reject Jesus , for all who reject His Word, for all who oppose Him.

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3 minutes ago, SkyWriting said:

The truth is that Paul did not respect women based on their gender and

so failed to implement the fundamental law of the scriptures. 

Your thoughts in darkness, with all the world, sons of disobedience.    Thus in darkness, you reject Yahweh's Word.

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2 hours ago, Cobalt1959 said:

You do not know whether she repented or not because the passage does not talk about that particular point at all so you are attempting to draw that conclusion from the text from a position of silence.  Jesus did not "let this woman go decide for herself what her sins were."  Her sin was adultery, clearly spelled out in the text.  That is the worst interpretation of that portion of scripture I have ever seen.  And you interpretation of it is driven by your false belief that suddenly homosexuality is no longer a sin.

I pointed out that the women does not repent of her sin, that Jesus does not condemn her actions, and that Jesus does not tell her what her sins are, but sends her off to think about how she has sinned.  All true.   Plus Jesus sends all the law experts home to consider how they think they have sinned against God.  All correct observations and text based. 

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6 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Your thoughts in darkness, with all the world, sons of disobedience.    Thus in darkness, you reject Yahweh's Word.

Just some of Paul's failing to treat women equally to himself as the scriptures below require. 
There is no shortage of people who dispute that women, as a class, are treated as equals in scripture.
Matthew 7:12    In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the prophets.

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9 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Your thoughts in darkness, with all the world, sons of disobedience.

I disobey you....agreed.  My relationship with God is not affected though. 

We are quite close and only speak in a closet, away from your ears.

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12 minutes ago, SkyWriting said:

All correct observations and text based. 

Your thoughts in darkness, with all the world, sons of disobedience.    Thus in darkness, you reject Yahweh's Word.

What did Jesus rebuke Peter for when doing the same thing as you ?  "you think as men do, not after Yahweh's Way" ...

Here is a more accurate word,  which you reject along with rejecting Jesus and His Word,  which will require the Father , not us, not men, to remove the veil blinding your own eyes/ mind / to the truth,  if ever you hope to understand Scripture,  the Father must grant this, as no man can.

She saith, no man, Lord,.... No man said a word to me, or lift up his hand against me, or moved a stone at me:

and Jesus said unto her, neither do I condemn thee; Christ came not into the world to act the part of a civil magistrate, and therefore refused to arbitrate a case, or be concerned in dividing an inheritance between two brethren, Luke 12:13. Nor did he come into the world to condemn it, but that the world, through him, might be saved, John 3:17; nor would he pass any other sentence on this woman, than what he had done; nor would he inflict any punishment on her himself; but suitably and agreeably to his office; as a prophet, he declares against her sin, calls her to repentance, and bids her

go and sin no more; lest as he said to the man he cured at Bethesda's pool, a worse thing should come unto her. Wherefore the Jew (s) has no reason to object to this conduct of Christ, as if he acted contrary to the law, in Deuteronomy 13:5. "Thou shalt put the evil away from the midst of thee"; and also to the sanctions of all civil laws among men, which order the removal of evil, by putting delinquents to death; and he observes, that those that believe in him, do not follow him in this, but put adulterers and adulteresses to death; and that indeed, should his example and instructions take place, all courts of judicature must cease, and order be subverted among men: but it should be observed, that our Lord manifested a regard, even to the law of Moses, when he bid this woman's accusers that were without sin, to cast the first stone at her; though as for the law in Deuteronomy 13:5, that respects a false prophet, and not an adulterer or an adulteress; nor do the civil laws of all nations require death in the case of adultery; and did they, Christ here, neither by his words nor actions, contradicts and sets aside any such laws of God or man; he left this fact to be inquired into, examined, and judged, and sentence passed by proper persons, whose business it was: as for himself, his office was not that of a civil magistrate, but of a Saviour and Redeemer; and suitably to that he acted in this case; he did not connive at the sin, he reproved for it; nor did he deny that she ought to suffer according to the law of Moses, but rather suggests she ought; but as this was not his province, he did not take upon him to pronounce any sentence of condemnation on her; but called her to repentance, and, as the merciful and compassionate Saviour, gave her reason to hope pardon and eternal life.

 

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10 minutes ago, SkyWriting said:

I disobey you....agreed.  My relationship with God is not affected though. 

'Tis not I you disobey that is of any consequence,  since you admit throughout your posts you don't obey and won't obey God,  it is true that your relationship with God is not affected - He Says He does not hear the prayer of someone who believes in their heart that sin is okay "considers sin in their heart" ......   so where there was no relationship of sonship,  there remains no relationship.

10 minutes ago, SkyWriting said:

We are quite close and only speak in a closet, away from your ears.

This is true also,   "We" of course referring to you and the one you listen to ,  not Yahweh.  If you listen ever, to Yahweh,  then turn to Him,  to do as He Says, as His Word Says clearly,  as you have repeatedly rejected,  and as several here and on other forums have shown you over and over with no repentance apparently - no turning to Yahweh to listen to Yahweh,  but

you apparently do listen to some 'god',  just not the One True God.

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