QuaestorRexRegis Posted September 28, 2002 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 184 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/09/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2002 My contention is simple. Eve ate first. Sin entered her life. She no longer held that sinless position in the eyes of God. Adam who was still in his perfect state would have known that Eve had fallen. Why would Adam eat of the tree when Eve offered? His love for her was such as God had for us, and he thought he could sacrifice himself for her. Not being God, he did not have such power as Christ did by laying down His glory for us. I believe this to be correct, but there are several flaws here. Good luck - I'll check back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Warrior FC Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 The bible says that the eyes of THEM BOTH were opened (GEN 3:7). It never said that Eves eyes were opened first then Adams later! She ate and also gave some to Adam... It happened at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitmean Posted September 28, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 881 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2002 1Ti 2:13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Him Alone Posted September 28, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 396 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/04/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/26/1961 Share Posted September 28, 2002 I believe that Adam ate because he too was human and imperfect and weak. As has been ever since then and still is today, Satan preys on our individual weaknesses. We are all susceptible to his temptation. I don't see any evidence that he 'sacrificed' for her by eating. Nope, he did it because he wanted to. Thank you Jesus for bridging the gap again for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuaestorRexRegis Posted September 28, 2002 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 184 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/09/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 28, 2002 Keep going - you are doing great... Maybe Psalm 6:9,10 and Genesis 2:25 will help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted September 28, 2002 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted September 28, 2002 It is important to note that all of creation fell with Adam, not with Eve. When God created Adam He gave authority and dominion over all of God's earthly creation to him. Adam was therefore the head over all of creation, including Eve, his wife. When Adam ate of the wrong fruit (not an apple, BTW), sin entered into Him and his authority was usurped by the father of sin, Satan. Thus, authority over all of God's creation was transferred to Satan. The blame for sin was never placed upon Eve because God created the woman as the weker vessel. It was placed squarely upon the shoulders of Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuaestorRexRegis Posted September 28, 2002 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 184 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/09/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 28, 2002 G-m: As Emeril would say - "BAM!!!" Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitmean Posted September 28, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 881 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2002 When Adam ate of the wrong fruit (not an apple, BTW), sin entered into Him and his authority was usurped by the father of sin, Satan. Thus, authority over all of God's creation was transferred to Satan. All authority would have been transfered to the dust eater BUT Adam repented and that put all authority in hock as long as there was GODLY seed on the earth until the kinsman redeemer bought it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted September 29, 2002 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 29, 2002 Hello QRR You are assuming that 1) Sin entered her life the instant she ate the apple. was it when her lips touched the apple? Was it as she took the first bite? Was it when she swallowed it? Or was it later after it had been digested? When did she give an apple to Adam? It says that Genesis 3:7 "Then the eyes of both of them where opened" So they became aware at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCruise Posted September 29, 2002 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 633 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/12/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/05/1953 Share Posted September 29, 2002 Adstar: Christ answered that question already: "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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