Guest shiloh357 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Marilyn C said: This is what you said - `Ps. 110:1-2 is fulfilled on earth, not in Heaven. It is about Jesus' earthly reign. Jesus cannot rule in the midst of His enemies in Heaven, as Jesus' enemies will be on earth (the offspring of Tribulation saints who survived the Tribulation who will reject him and join Satan's final rebellion).`and my reply was showing that it is not entirely accurate. Ps. 110:1-2 is a messianic prophecy. Messianic prophecies detail Jesus' role as Israel's Messiah. Hence, they are always fulfilled on earth, not in Heaven. Israel is on earth, not in Heaven. So, any prophecy related to Jesus role as King and Messiah speak to His earthly kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted May 6, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,225 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,512 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted May 6, 2017 26 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Yes you did. Well, you used the word "restore." You said that his position needs to be restored. I used the word "fill" several times in our conversation and only now are you back peddling away from that. Presumably because you can't really support it. I said - `The first authority that needs to be restored is in the third heaven. It was here that Lucifer held the position and authority of a kingpriest. He ruled over a third of the angels & led the worship to God, until he was cast out.` Lucifer had some authority given by God, but when he fell that authority it is still God`s authority. Christ made all realms and the authority there is by Him and for Him. (Col. 1: 16) Thus as I showed no angel or man is worthy to have authority in that realm, the third heaven. Christ as we well know is worthy and He will receive the honour of physically in His glorified body, being publically given all power & honour & glory, in the third heaven. His `throne,` His authority by the Father is much greater than what Lucifer ever had, for the Lord alone has the moral character to rule with such absolute power over all God`s great kingdom, in every realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, Marilyn C said: I said - `The first authority that needs to be restored is in the third heaven. It was here that Lucifer held the position and authority of a kingpriest. He ruled over a third of the angels & led the worship to God, until he was cast out.` Lucifer had some authority given by God, but when he fell that authority it is still God`s authority. Christ made all realms and the authority there is by Him and for Him. (Col. 1: 16) Thus as I showed no angel or man is worthy to have authority in that realm, the third heaven. Christ as we well know is worthy and He will receive the honour of physically in His glorified body, being publically given all power & honour & glory, in the third heaven. His `throne,` His authority by the Father is much greater than what Lucifer ever had, for the Lord alone has the moral character to rule with such absolute power over all God`s great kingdom, in every realm. Jesus will have a coronation in the third heaven. But the Kingdom Jesus is given is on earth where he will rule for the duration of the 1,000 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted May 6, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,225 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,512 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted May 6, 2017 30 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Ps. 110:1-2 is a messianic prophecy. Messianic prophecies detail Jesus' role as Israel's Messiah. Hence, they are always fulfilled on earth, not in Heaven. Israel is on earth, not in Heaven. So, any prophecy related to Jesus role as King and Messiah speak to His earthly kingdom. As I showed you Shiloh, Ps. 110 includes the time of Christ on the Father`s throne, and then when He is ruling. It only shows the millennium part, whereas God gives us more revelation in His book of Revelation, where we read of Christ judging in the tribulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted May 6, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,225 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,512 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, shiloh357 said: Jesus will have a coronation in the third heaven. But the Kingdom Jesus is given is on earth where he will rule for the duration of the 1,000 years. I will address that tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, Marilyn C said: As I showed you Shiloh, Ps. 110 includes the time of Christ on the Father`s throne, and then when He is ruling. It only shows the millennium part, whereas God gives us more revelation in His book of Revelation, where we read of Christ judging in the tribulation. No, yes, you did attempt to show that, but you're wrong. That passage is about Jesus' rule on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted May 6, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,225 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,512 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted May 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: No, yes, you did attempt to show that, but you're wrong. That passage is about Jesus' rule on earth. And God`s word in Revelation? God shows us quite clearly that His Son is ruling and bringing judgments in the tribulation from the third heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Marilyn C said: And God`s word in Revelation? God shows us quite clearly that His Son is ruling and bringing judgments in the tribulation from the third heaven. Cite the relevant passages for review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted May 6, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,225 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,512 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted May 6, 2017 10 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Cite the relevant passages for review. The book of Revelation reveals the Lord bringing judgments in the tribulation. The 24 elders representing the overcomers, worship and say - `We give you thanks, O Lord God Almighty, the one who is and who was and who is to come, because you have taken your great power and reigned.` (Rev. 11: 17) Here are some judgments in the tribulation . - Satan and his fallen angels are cast out of the middle heavens to the earth. (Rev. 12: 7 - 9) - The judgment of the whore. (Rev. 17) - The judgment of the city of Babylon. (Rev. 18) Those who overcame the `beast` but were martyred, sing - `Great and marvellous are your works, Lord God almighty....for your judgments have been manifested.` (Rev. 15: 2 - 4) - The judgment of kings of the earth & their armies, plus the `beast` (A/C) and the false prophet. (Rev. 19: 17 - 21) - The judgment of Satan.(Rev. 20: 1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 48 minutes ago, Marilyn C said: The book of Revelation reveals the Lord bringing judgments in the tribulation. The 24 elders representing the overcomers, worship and say - `We give you thanks, O Lord God Almighty, the one who is and who was and who is to come, because you have taken your great power and reigned.` (Rev. 11: 17) Here are some judgments in the tribulation . - Satan and his fallen angels are cast out of the middle heavens to the earth. (Rev. 12: 7 - 9) - The judgment of the whore. (Rev. 17) - The judgment of the city of Babylon. (Rev. 18) Those who overcame the `beast` but were martyred, sing - `Great and marvellous are your works, Lord God almighty....for your judgments have been manifested.` (Rev. 15: 2 - 4) - The judgment of kings of the earth & their armies, plus the `beast` (A/C) and the false prophet. (Rev. 19: 17 - 21) - The judgment of Satan.(Rev. 20: 1) Alright, but that doesn't really speak to the fact that Jesus' kingdom will be on the earth during the Millennium. So I really don't see the point of your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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