Ovedya Posted April 1, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Ben, I would never back down from what I believe. I remain friends with this woman to this day-she put her neck on the line for me to come back to work at my job after I had quit! I love her like a sister but I would never back down from what I believe-I'm not gonna mollycoddle anyone just to make them feel better. I pray for her everyday and I know that at some point, God is going to do a work in her life. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're doing the right thing, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted April 1, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Its out of compassion that i tell them that they are condemned to hell.... Ben, The letter of the law killeth! I agree with you on this-if no acceptance of Christ is performed by these people, they will die and go to Hell. However, I worked with a woman who was a lesbian. If someone would have told her that she was going to Hell, all she would have done is went ballistic on them. God has given us enough common sense, well some of us anyway, to know that you don't go wagging your finger in people's faces. Sometimes you have to show people the LOVE of Christ even when they're unlovable. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ronald thanks for the reply it was well said and seemed very serious for forgive me If i seemed and presumed that we just scare them into heaven for that is not what I meant but if someone asks me I am not to lye for I shall speak the truth as Christ did when he went to Jerusalem and they thought he was blaspheming Christ simply spoke truth and he spoke of salvation just by saying I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY ME. We should have wisdom when speaking the truth and revalation of christ yes ronald but only the Truth will set us Free. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay. Now maybe we're getting somewhere. Honey attracts more bees than vinegar. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes maybe we are getting somewhere but do you understand the truth on this which i have explained? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like the recipe on the back of a soupcap, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bro David™ Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 You are saved by GRACE. John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Acts 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. I might be foolish but I still don't see The Grace in walking up to a sinner and shouting repent. "Not in her scenario" Rather an arm over his shoulder, a ear when he needs one, a selfless act all these my brother will show him that our master, the one I call master is one with love and grace, and when the Spirit yields we introduce him to Jesus. God works only for His Glory, not yours or mine. With love David King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted April 1, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted April 1, 2005 [quote name='Bro David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ben34 Posted April 1, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 110 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2005 [quote name='Bro David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGR Posted April 1, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 8,601 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/16/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/04/1973 Share Posted April 1, 2005 [quote name='Bro David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ben34 Posted April 1, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 110 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2005 [quote name='Bro David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bro David™ Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Screaming is not a sin has is killing depends on what your screaming at or killing. Screaming at the wall vs killing an animal for food. Biblicaly no proof stands on your side when you claim He was screaming. On a more primary issue with regards to your misuderstanding of the Bible. Jesus saved all of us through Grace when he died on the cross. Were we saved by Grace before that ? No. Were we held by the old law at that time? Yes !. You are a walking contradiction. With Love David King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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