Jude1:3 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, shiloh357 said: And all that proves is that part of it is pre-Christian and parts of it are not. Most of it was likely written by the Essenes. It certainly was not written by Enoch and it should not be treated as inspired or as supplemental to Scripture. It has none of the hallmarks of inspired Scripture. • 3 Different Church Fathers make Reference To The Book of Enoch as scripture in their writings. • It was written by Enoch • It Is Pre Christian • The Essenes faithfully transmitted 1 Enoch and other scriptures. • It Is inspired Scripture. • It was found with The Dead Sea Scrolls: https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/scrolls/scr3.html • John Strugnell said he was shown an Aramaic copy of The book of Enoch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_Enoch_Scroll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Strugnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said: • 3 Different Church Fathers make Reference To The Book of Enoch as scripture in their writings. • It was written by Enoch • It Is Pre Christian • The Essenes faithfully transmitted 1 Enoch and other scriptures. • It Is inspired Scripture. • It was found with The Dead Sea Scrolls: https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/scrolls/scr3.html • John Strugnell said he was shown an Aramaic copy of The book of Enoch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_Enoch_Scroll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Strugnell None of that is grounds for calling it inspired Scripture. It bears none of the hallmarks of inspired Scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: None of that is grounds for calling it inspired Scripture. It bears none of the hallmarks of inspired Scripture. Wrong. It is Scripture. It Glorifies Yeshua The Messiah As God and it was written BEFORE Christianity even existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said: Wrong. It is Scripture. It Glorifies Yeshua The Messiah As God and it was written BEFORE Christianity even existed. No, and you have no evidence for any of it. It does read like inspired Scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, shiloh357 said: No, and you have no evidence for any of it. It does read like inspired Scripture. Yes I do and I have already shown you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) “I am aware that The Scripture of Enoch," •Tertullian - On the Apparel of Women I 3:1-3. (200-225 A.D.) Edited September 20, 2017 by Jude1:3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 53 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said: Yes I do and I have already shown you. No, not any real evidence, just claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 48 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said: “I am aware that The Scripture of Enoch," •Tertullian - On the Apparel of Women I 3:1-3. (200-225 A.D.) Tertullian? Really? That is not evidence of inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude1:3 Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 158 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/14/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, shiloh357 said: Tertullian? Really? That is not evidence of inspiration. He is a Church Father. https://www.gotquestions.org/Tertullian.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jude1:3 said: He is a Church Father. https://www.gotquestions.org/Tertullian.html That doesn't matter. The church fathers are not our final authority on the inspiration of Scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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