Fiosh Posted April 23, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,663 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 23, 2005 I promise to keep repeating this at the risk of being annoying until someone notices: 2 John 7: Many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh; such is the deceitful one and the antichrist. 1 John 2: 22 " Who is the liar: Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist. No Catholic Pope will EVER deny that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man! If he ever does I'll be the first one to jump ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Posted April 23, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1982 Share Posted April 23, 2005 I promise to keep repeating this at the risk of being annoying until someone notices:   2 John 7: Many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh; such is the deceitful one and the antichrist. 1 John 2: 22 " Who is the liar: Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist. No Catholic Pope will EVER deny that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man! If he ever does I'll be the first one to jump ship! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But would that not be a great(meaning big) deception? Claiming to know Jesus, but then revealing yourself as the AC, The Man of Sin spoken of in 2Th 2:3. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakcat74 Posted April 24, 2005 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 37 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/10/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 24, 2005 As for the signs I was talking about, have you notice that there is a lot sizemic(sp? earthquakes and volcano eruptions and stuff) activity going on lately? Mark 13:8 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows. Now, maybe I am the only one, but doesn't it seem that this is going on right now? How many earthquakes and volcano eruptions have we had in the past year? Not sure of the exact numbers... but here is a link to EARTHWEEK: A Diary of the Planet Is it posted in PDF weekly and is printed in some of the major newpapers. Every week you can read the recent global troubles not mentioned in any other news source... In fact, about two years ago... there was one week that mentioned a huge flock of birds, a couple hundred, that mysteriously died while in flight over Jerusalem. When they were found dead on the ground, there was no exact reason for their deaths. Really interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiosh Posted April 24, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,663 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 24, 2005 I promise to keep repeating this at the risk of being annoying until someone notices: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Posted April 24, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1982 Share Posted April 24, 2005 (edited) I promise to keep repeating this at the risk of being annoying until someone notices: Edited April 24, 2005 by J.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Posted April 24, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1982 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Fiosh: We are plainly told by Paul that the anti-christ present himself as literally God in the flesh. Now this will obviously be some perverted religion with some perverted elements of judaism and christianity and buddhism, but the point is, he will come as "The Christ", and will largely be accepted as such. P.S. If there are any geology buffs here, has the rate of earthquakes and volcano eruptions increased over the years? Just wondering. "scientists" will tell you "No" because they interpret everything to be billions of years old, and that the earth was once one big boiling mass of lava, etc, and consequently has been "cooling" for billions of years. But Biblically it has in fact increased greatly. The thing is there is not one volcanic erruption recorded in scripture! Now I am not saying every one has happened since then, I am just saying there aren't any, at all, recorded in scripture, even in passing. Other then the supposed sinking of Atlantis, there aren't very many major earthquakes or erruptions in pre-christ history period, I think one OT earthquake is mentioned in the Bible. When Krakatoa blew up its shock wave cicled the entire earth twice, meaning no matter where you were on the earth, you heard and felt the explosion two seperate times, several hours apart, and from opposite directions. Had there been a volcanic event like that before Christ, it would have been recorded by SOMEONE, such as the chinese, who were obsessive historians and astronomers, or the Mayan's pre-christ ancestors, or someone. But there is no verifiable, historical evidence, that I am aware of, of any pre-jesus geologic event of that magnitude, even in the Bible, except for the great flood (I did really well in physical geology, so I have a decent working knowledge of known geologic disasters in history.) In 79a.d., just 9 years after Rome destroyed the Temple, Vesuvius buried Pompeii under lava and ash. Most of the pre-christ catastrophe's that are known have been recorded in the Bible, and most of the other known catastrophes have happened since then. What we do know is that during the great tribulation there is going to be an earthquake which will be so bad that it will apparantly flatten every mountain and sink every island. Rev. 17:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall a time when you could turn on the television and there wasn't news of a natural disaster flashing across the screen. Now every time you turn on the television, there has been a tornado outbreak, a hurricane, an earthquake, a flood, mudslide, something. I think evidence is natural disasters are increasing greatly over all, especially weather relatied ones, but this probably included geologic as well. We have been blessed that the last cosmic related natural disaster happend in a largely unpopulated region of Siberia, and there haven't been any since. I think we can do without a comet blowing up over San Diego, for example. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nice post. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 25, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 The thing is there is not one volcanic erruption recorded in scripture! Well - that's because there are no volcanoes in Israel!!!!! Do you think Scripture would mention a volcanic erruption in Japan or North America? And what if the "increase" mention has as much to do with public awareness as with actual occurence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted April 25, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 21 Topic Count: 129 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,801 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 483 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2005 The thing is there is not one volcanic erruption recorded in scripture! Well - that's because there are no volcanoes in Israel!!!!! Do you think Scripture would mention a volcanic erruption in Japan or North America? And what if the "increase" mention has as much to do with public awareness as with actual occurence? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In California we have thousands of faults... I don't know what percentage of quakes the average person actually notices... but I would say a very small percentage. Usually the only reason we know there was a quake is because seismologists say there was. The amount of earthquakes I feel has not increased... the amount of earthquakes I am aware of has. These quakes (none of which I felt) occured today: mag 1.4 2005/04/24 21:37:50 34.048N 116.400W 10.2 9 km ( 5 mi) S of Yucca Valley, CA mag 1.3 2005/04/24 20:45:25 35.805N 118.043W 9.4 20 km (13 mi) NE of Onyx, CA mag 1.9 2005/04/24 20:44:02 35.811N 118.046W 9.9 21 km (13 mi) NE of Onyx, CA mag 1.5 2005/04/24 20:42:30 38.821N 122.802W 2.0 3 km ( 2 mi) N of The Geysers, CA mag 1.9 2005/04/24 20:04:17 38.757N 122.985W 4.1 5 km ( 3 mi) SSE of Cloverdale, CA mag 2.6 2005/04/24 19:41:49 40.039N 120.331W 0.3 22 km (14 mi) S of Honey Lake, CA mag 1.7 2005/04/24 19:09:20 35.026N 117.695W 0.0 3 km ( 2 mi) WNW of Boron, CA mag 1.8 2005/04/24 18:08:26 36.247N 120.285W 30.5 14 km ( 8 mi) NNE of Coalinga, CA map 1.g 2005/04/24 17:43:04 36.738N 121.234W 8.4 10 km ( 6 mi) SE of Tres Pinos, CA mag 2.1 2005/04/24 16:50:31 32.602N 115.625W 18.0 15 km ( 9 mi) SW of Calexico, CA map 1.7 2005/04/24 15:57:18 33.348N 117.104W 13.3 8 km ( 5 mi) SSE of Rainbow, CA mag 1.2 2005/04/24 15:25:20 32.921N 116.267W 11.6 26 km (16 mi) ENE of Pine Valley, CA mag 2.1 2005/04/24 15:23:35 35.803N 118.043W 9.8 20 km (13 mi) NE of Onyx, CA map 1.4 2005/04/24 15:11:40 38.827N 122.802W 3.8 3 km ( 2 mi) N of The Geysers, CA mag 3.2 2005/04/24 14:46:43 33.807N 118.647W 0.0 21 km (13 mi) W of Palos Verdes Point, CA mag 3.6 2005/04/24 14:44:27 33.811N 118.642W 0.0 20 km (13 mi) W of Palos Verdes Point, CA map 1.0 2005/04/24 12:33:41 35.961N 120.517W 2.4 10 km ( 6 mi) NW of Parkfield, CA mag 2.5 2005/04/24 12:30:16 37.088N 117.692W 3.6 32 km (20 mi) W of Scottys Castle, CA mag 1.6 2005/04/24 12:05:06 34.273N 116.818W 6.6 3 km ( 2 mi) ENE of Big Bear City, CA map 1.6 2005/04/24 11:26:41 37.412N 118.684W 24.4 8 km ( 5 mi) W of Round Valley, CA mag 1.5 2005/04/24 10:47:18 38.825N 122.806W 3.8 3 km ( 2 mi) N of The Geysers, CA mag 1.5 2005/04/24 08:30:41 32.810N 116.560W 13.7 4 km ( 2 mi) WSW of Pine Valley, CA mag 1.8 2005/04/24 08:26:22 38.822N 122.793W 0.6 3 km ( 2 mi) NNE of The Geysers, CA mag 1.6 2005/04/24 07:50:00 33.793N 117.206W 35.3 2 km ( 1 mi) ESE of Perris, CA mag 1.4 2005/04/24 07:34:48 37.212N 122.111W 10.6 9 km ( 6 mi) N of Boulder Creek, CA mag 1.6 2005/04/24 07:04:41 32.860N 116.826W 7.0 5 km ( 3 mi) NNE of Harbison Canyon, CA mag 1.1 2005/04/24 05:34:27 35.790N 118.028W 11.8 21 km (13 mi) NE of Onyx, CA mag 2.2 2005/04/24 05:30:17 35.806N 118.044W 9.4 20 km (13 mi) NE of Onyx, CA mag 2.5 2005/04/24 05:25:25 35.805N 118.048W 9.1 20 km (13 mi) NE of Onyx, CA mag 2.1 2005/04/24 02:55:19 36.216N 120.783W 5.6 23 km (14 mi) ENE of San Lucas, CA mag 1.9 2005/04/24 01:09:25 37.215N 122.111W 12.8 9 km ( 6 mi) N of Boulder Creek, CA mag 2.6 2005/04/24 00:52:37 37.146N 121.559W 12.6 7 km ( 5 mi) NNE of San Martin, CA mag 1.5 2005/04/24 00:00:16 38.816N 122.817W 2.9 2 km ( 1 mi) NNW of The Geysers, CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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