Robert William Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 612 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 18 hours ago, simplejeff said: Yahweh is Spirit. person | Definition of person in English by Oxford Dictionaries https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/person - Cached Definition of person - a human being regarded as an individual, There are three but ONE GOD, and Jesus is God in the flesh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Yowm said: There can be other personages than human ones. person | Definition of person in English by Oxford Dictionarieshttps://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/person - Cached Definition of person - a human being regarded as an individual, Numbers 23:19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human ... biblehub.com/numbers/23-19.htm - Cached - Similar God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? ======================================= Thus, using standard accepted definitions , it is not a false teaching to point out that Yahweh is not a human being. If someone wants to use different definitions, I see no problem with that , if they show them, but they also have to show what they mean by a false teaching (contrary to standard definitions) as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Robert William said: There are three but ONE GOD, and Jesus is God in the flesh. So ? Are you in the infamous "ONENESS" cultic way of thinking ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 612 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just now, simplejeff said: So ? Are you in the infamous "ONENESS" cultic way of thinking ? Jeff, what I said here is completely biblical, many here would agree with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just now, Robert William said: Jeff, what I said here is completely biblical, many here would agree with me. So ? How does it fit in with anything in this thread ? It is obviously also "COMPLETELY BIBLICAL" that "JESUS WEPT" ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just now, Yowm said: Why use a secular/popular resource that is not from a biblical worldview. Try that dictionary trick using a bible dictionary. Go ahead, the floor is wide open. No one has so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, simplejeff said: https://www.gotquestions.org/God-is-not-a-man.html "Question: "How can Jesus be God, when Numbers 23:19 says that God is not a man or a son of man?" "Answer: Some claim that the Old Testament proves that Jesus cannot be God because of Numbers 23:19a, which says, “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent” (KJV). The reasoning is that, if God is not a man, then the Christian claim that Jesus, a man, is God is false. Just as troublesome is the fact that Jesus repeatedly calls Himself the “Son of Man” in the gospels (e.g., Mark 14:21). "The Old Testament does indeed teach that God is not a human being, not only in Numbers 23:19 but also in 1 Samuel 15:29 and Hosea 11:9. "However, the New Testament shows us that Jesus made claims to be God—and at the same time He calls Himself the “Son of Man,” a title that proclaims His humanity. With all this being true, how can we prove that Jesus is God? ... ... "To summarize, God’s statements that He is not a man and Jesus’ statements that He is the Son of God coexist as true; they are not in conflict." God is not a man, but God is a Person. He has personage and that does not require Him to be human in order to be a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 Numbers 23:19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human ... biblehub.com/numbers/23-19.htm - Cached - Similar God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? (I'm pretty sure Numbers is in the BIBLE......) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 2, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just now, shiloh357 said: God is not a man, but God is a Person. He has personage and that does not require Him to be human in order to be a person. Is the source of your "definitions" the roman catholic traditions ????!!!! (I don't think so, but it seems to be leaning that way ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, simplejeff said: person | Definition of person in English by Oxford Dictionarieshttps://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/person - Cached Definition of person - a human being regarded as an individual, Numbers 23:19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human ... biblehub.com/numbers/23-19.htm - Cached - Similar God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill? ======================================= Thus, using standard accepted definitions , it is not a false teaching to point out that Yahweh is not a human being. If someone wants to use different definitions, I see no problem with that , if they show them, but they also have to show what they mean by a false teaching (contrary to standard definitions) as well. When you have to use a secular resource and go outside the Bible to claim that God is not a Person, it shows that your view is false teaching. The Bible presents God as a person. True Christians reject your false teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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