Mike 2

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  1. I hear you I think that God, in His genius, has made it very simple for everyone when it comes to salvation but we take our theology and cloud that simplicity. Maybe that is a topic for another thread......How simple is salvation? I think it has already been expressed in this thread that there is a difference between salvation and sanctification. Accepting salvation, then working it out are two different things. One doesn't require any theology.
  2. I think to question if someone is a Christian, or even question them if they are saved is valid. James does it in a round about way in Jam 2:14-26 by telling people to look at what they say they believe compared to what they do. I agree with what you have said in red above but we have to ask the question of salvation based on actions or lack of. A lot of people believe they are Christians (Limey Bob kinda stressed that point) but don't really have faith.... ....all the way back to Lady Kays O.P. ... We're to help our brothers and sisters out....and we are to be the beautiful feet that carry the good news How do we decide which is which?
  3. notsolostsoul you happened to bring this up this time but it is something I see often. I am sure that most people stop reading that passage before verse 5 or figure they already have an understanding and don't let verse 5 sink in. (like Joh 3:16...no one seems to read vs 18's huge meaning) I think most may be misunderstanding this passage. Please see my hi-lights above. It is saying that you CAN judge someone else but you cannot be effective in discernment, rebuking and correction if you yourself are doing the same or worse. This whole passage including "judge not...lest you be judged" (what about vs 2?) is so often taken to mean the wrong thing. IT DOES NOT MEAN DON'T JUDGE Yes I put it in caps because I want to shout it out. It does say that we need to be aware that if we are going to make a judgment call with the intention of making a correction; we had better be in a position where we won't hear someone say 'Well, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black"....practice what you preach. There is a real danger of doing a disservice to our Lord if we aren't walking the talk! A very good biblical example of this is Paul addressing Peters hypocrisy in Galatians: Gal 2:11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly wrong. Paul made a judgement call based on Peter's (Cephas) behavior. The important thing to remember is that Paul made that call from a position where he was not doing the same thing as Peter and Paul's intention was not to put Peter down but to help him grow and ultimately, better spread the gospel. When I run into someone claiming to be a Christian but not acting like one I wonder why that is and I start asking questions.... What do you mean by "Christian"...what is a Christian? How long have you been a Christian? If someone claiming to be Christian is not acting like one, we have to help them along. That's Paul's advice. 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 2Ti 3:17 so that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good action. If they claim to be a Christian but it sure appears that they are not, I feel obliged on behalf of my Lord to point them towards the truth. Learning to ask the right questions that will "put a pebble in their sandals" is often the most effective and gentle way to do that. For sure one thing we are not able to judge is a persons final destination....only the Lord knows a persons soul. Lady Kay's title "We are Told Not to Question Someones Faith" seems like a cliche phrase....has anyone bothered to check if that's a biblical truth? Or is it a spin on another man made cliche..."we aren't supposed to judge others".... taken from Mat: 7? I think if Lady Kay (or any of us for that matter) were to believe that cliche she may miss out on an opportunity to help steer someone closer to God.
  4. Something I learned sometime ago is that, particularly when it comes to the gay debate, Christians seem to take the stance that a gay person cannot become a Christian unless they stop being gay and gay people think they cannot become a Christian unless somehow the idea of homosexuality as being sin is removed from the bible. Both parties forget or don't realize that heaven to this day is full of sinners that are only there because of the righteousness of Jesus. AND....Christians continue to be sinners. Sin whether stealing, telling a lie, murdering or homosexuality has been removed once, for all by Christ at the cross. The forgiveness has already been done, nothing has to change before you can accept it. I don't have to change anything first to accept that forgiveness!!! I just have to accept that I need forgiveness. In a true believer the Holy Spirit effects spiritual truth and change. I have learned to focus on the forgiveness that we have been given and how it is available to us despite the sin we are caught up in.....no matter what that is. We too easily get sucked into the homosexuality merry go round and whether it is natural, un natural, etc. When that happens we completely miss the message of forgiveness. Keep in mind that homosexuality is not the only sin in a gay persons life, its just the obvious one. We need to focus on the fact that sin is forgiven and bring to the fore that we sin in many ways. With gay people we need to get off the merry go round and talk about sin in general and the forgiveness of it ONCE for ALL. Bottom line is, I was a sinner when I was saved Ah shucks, ....I may as well admit it....geee, I continue to sin. How about you?
  5. Reading "Just Walk Across the Room" by Bill Hybels. Just finished John and starting Luke
  6. If we keep that in mind.....it sure takes a load off our shoulders
  7. Yea really How many people, ourselves included at one point, do not understand the spiritual aspect of Jesus. If we understand that people can't understand it without the Holy Spirit we learn to talk to them about the things of God in a different way so that we may teach them.
  8. There is great meaning in this verse along with what Jesus, the Son of God says in Joh 5:19 Jesus told them, "Truly, I tell all of you with certainty, the Son can do nothing on his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing, What the Father does, the Son does likewise. Joh 5:20 The Father loves the Son and shows him everything he is doing, and he will show him even greater actions than these, so that you may be amazed. How is it that the Son (Jesus) "sees" what the Father does? 1 Corinthians 2:11-14 in the above quote gives us a clear indication. It is through the Holy Spirit that knows the things of God. Without the Holy Spirit we cannot know the things (Father) of God. Like a son comes out from the father physically it happens the same way spiritually. Spiritual truth and direction come out of the Father and are revealed by the Holy Spirit to the Son, most well known to us in that of Jesus. (waaaait for it.....) As verse 14 above states someone that has not accepted what the Christ has done, and therefore has not received the Holy Spirit, cannot work as Jesus did because they cannot know (see) what the Father does (desires). They remain natural and are not sons of, children of, God, because they do not have Gods Holy Spirit in them. When we receive the Holy Spirit, we become sons of God (gender does not apply here) and we can then do Gods will on earth as it is in heaven. We are all God's creation but we are not all God's spiritual children.
  9. Judas....you made my day posting that!!!! I have already shared it with my home church group. Thanks I should add...context, context, context
  10. You pose an interesting and popular question. The bible tells us how we can be guaranteed salvation Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone believing into Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And Rom 10:8 But what does it say? "The message is near you. It is in your mouth and in your heart." This is the message about faith that we are proclaiming: Rom 10:9 If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. But that doesn't explain the person on the desert isle or in the middle of the jungle that has never heard the name of Jesus. The bible also tells us Php 2:10 that at the name of Jesus "every knee should bow," of heavenly ones, and earthly ones, and ones under the earth, Php 2:11 and "every tongue should confess" that Jesus Christ is "Lord," to the glory of God the Father. I have heard it discussed that no one knows when that opportunity can come, only now ....or even later, but God knows the heart of all when it does happen.
  11. In regards to this and how it pertains to biblical teaching I think you will help yourself and those of us reading with our learning if you refer to where in the bible you have read some of the things you are writing about. Otherwise it will be something like "well so and so said...." It's easy to repeat something we have heard, believing it to be factual only to look it up and find out it is actually far from true. This happens a lot when people talk about the bible. I'm not suggesting you are doing that, but it would be a lot easier for me if you were to refer to where you got your information. Doing that helps us all understand how we come to our conclusions and whether they are informed or not. Blessings, mike2
  12. So when they tell the stories will it be a narrative by the actor just sitting there, or will the light fade out to another scene and then the story be performed?
  13. I'm sure in your meditations on this you are wondering why the heck anyone would want to live that way. The answer may be in considering where true contentment comes from. Is it in our trying to control things around us, or things within us. If contentment, and joy for that matter, is within, then the growth, incentive and expansion comes in a different form than what the world teaches. Ultimately your struggle is between the worldly and the spiritual. Every true Christian whether they realize it or not has been down that road. The rest don't realize that you cannot satisfy the spiritual with worldly things. When we realize that the pursuit of the worldly things cannot satisfy us spiritually we write and say things like Ecclesiastes. The answer is not in loving worldly things or hating worldly things but in loving spiritual things.
  14. Hey sight, Ecclesiastes hit me like a ton of bricks....when it finally hit me. I'd been reading the bible for years and then for some reason or another I had the same experience that you just had...Chasing after everything is a waste of time! But doing something, doing something good and finding the joy in the doing focuses me on the here and now, not on dreams and the things I wish I had but the things I do right now. It was a real turning point for me. I love this part in ch 3; "I have observed the burdens placed by God on human beings in order to perfect them. He made everything appropriate in its time. He also placed eternity within them—yet, no person can fully comprehend what God is doing from beginning to end. I have concluded that the only worthwhile thing for them is to take pleasure in doing good in life; moreover, every person should eat, drink, and enjoy the benefits of everything that he undertakes, since it is a gift from God." This is something that I'm sure BK110 gets as well You quoted him earlier Posted Monday at 01:41 PM · Report post BK110, when you say "Jesus takes care of the rest"... Are you stating that matter of factly, or does that statement compensate for the fact that you truly are struggling everyday? Understanding what you quoted in Ecclesiastes along with what Jesus said in Mat 6:26-34 were easily the 2 most prominent things that moved me to understanding how BK110 could say that. You may not see it right now, but God IS doing things in you and if you keep plodding along, you will look back and see the difference between "then and now".