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On 12/26/2017 at 1:50 PM, Enoch2021 said:

There are no "PLANETS" mentioned in Scripture either.

 

Incorrect.....

2 Kings 23:5King James Version (KJV)

And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.

 

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16 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Incorrect.....

2 Kings 23:5King James Version (KJV)

And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.

 

Incorrect: 

planetsH4208: mazzaloth 
Strong's Concordance:
mazzaloth: constellations, perhaps signs of the zodiac
Original Word: מַזָּלוֹת
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: mazzaloth
Phonetic Spelling: (maz-zaw-law')
Short Definition: constellations

 

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4 hours ago, BeyondET said:

The only problem is with your flat earth theory is your using flat two dimensional photos.

:huh: You wanna run that by us one more time...?

 

ps. And again Flat Earth isn't a "Theory".

 

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On 12/28/2017 at 2:28 PM, MorningGlory said:

Here's my rebuttal to all these silly claims....they are rubbish. 

So a "Na'ahh" Defense?  Riveting!!  You wouldn't happen to be Pre-Law by chance?

 

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You're an educated man, obviously.

The funny part, you actually don't have to be 'educated' very much to reconcile these subjects.

 

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Why do you persist in this nonsense? 

1.  Loaded Question (Fallacy).

2.  Because it's not nonsense.

 

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Do you even believe it yourself?

Nope.  I "know" it.

 

Do you have a coherent Substantive argument/position in support of the 'spinning-ball' religion in lieu of your personal subjective generalized opinions regarding me...?

 

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4 minutes ago, Enoch2021 said:

 

Do you have a coherent Substantive argument/position in support of the 'spinning-ball' religion in lieu of your personal subjective generalized opinions regarding me...?

 

Yes.  The flat earth THEORY is total nonsense and a conspiracy theory as well.  Btw, opinions are what we do here.  You certainly air yours on a daily basis.

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29 minutes ago, Enoch2021 said:

Incorrect: 

planetsH4208: mazzaloth 
Strong's Concordance:
mazzaloth: constellations, perhaps signs of the zodiac
Original Word: מַזָּלוֹת
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: mazzaloth
Phonetic Spelling: (maz-zaw-law')
Short Definition: constellations

 

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Nope.  The original Greek meant 'wanderer'. 

http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/mo

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11 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Yes. 

No.

 

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The flat earth THEORY

Factually Incorrect.  Watch...

Define "Theory"...?  THEN...

Show how Flat Earth is a "Theory"...?

 

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is total nonsense

Generalized Sweeping Ipse Dixit Baseless 'bare' Assertion Fallacy.

 

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and a conspiracy theory as well.

1.  Generalized Sweeping Ipse Dixit Baseless 'bare' Assertion Fallacy.

2.  Non-Sequitur Fallacy. How can the shape of something be a "Conspiracy"??

 

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 Btw, opinions are what we do here.

No.  They are what "YOU" do here.

 

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You certainly air yours on a daily basis.

Really?  Show one...?

Do you understand the "Concept" of SUPPORTING what you claim by chance?

Juxtapose (Compare and Contrast) SUPPORTED Claims vs. Unsupported (Ipse Dixit) Claims...?

 

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11 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Nope. 

Yep

 

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The original Greek meant 'wanderer'. 

http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/mo

 

 

1.  The Original Greek of "What"...?

2.  H4208: mazzaloth  Came from 2 Kings (Remember, YOU posted it?? :rolleyes:).   Are you saying that the Original "Kings" was written in Greek?

3.  From your Source above...

"Cyclone, a noun meaning a wind storm that revolves around a center of low pressure, has a somewhat interesting etymology in that it is a modern coinage using ancient roots. It is also one of those rare words that we can pinpoint its precise origin, a situation somewhat more common with scientific and technical terms."

Ahhh, can you explain what "CYCLONES" have to do with this discussion ??

 

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3 hours ago, Enoch2021 said:

Do you understand the "Concept" of SUPPORTING what you claim by chance?

 

Do YOU?  Still waiting for photos of your 'flat earth' and the 'dome'; also the 'ice walls' that keep us from falling off the edges of your flat earth.  Still waiting for proof that NASA fakes it's photos.  Still waiting for proof that all sciences are fairy tales.  So far, in the time you've been on this site, you've never posted anything but your brand of junk science.

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6 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Do YOU? 

So you answer a question with a question?

btw: Yes...I surely do.

 

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Still waiting for photos of your 'flat earth' and the 'dome';

Still waiting for you Photos of your Spinning-Ball...?

Here's my "Pictures"...

Flat: 

Sea Sparrow (NATO): 

"Bistatic, semiactive seekers in the nose of a missile receive a reflected signal from a target that is being “illuminated” with an RF signal transmitted from a fire control radar on a stand-off platform (e.g., aircraft, ship). Such systems REQUIRE that the platform maintain LINE OF SIGHT (LOS) to the target until it is engaged by the missile. Ship-based standard missile (SM) and NATO Seasparrow AAW missiles are examples of such a semiactive mode." http://m.eet.com/media/1111959/819_radar3.pdf
 
The target is "Illuminated" with a 2 inch Pencil Beam (RF) which has to be maintained "Painted" on the target until detonation. At a more than generous 80 Feet Elevation above Sea LEVEL (Tracking Radar Height), the target should be hidden behind 385 Feet of Curvature.
 
Please explain how you can have Line of Site (LOS) 35 Miles Away on a "Spinning-Ball" by showing how an 2" RF Pencil Beam can penetrate 385 Feet (117 METERS) of Target Hidden Height through a WALL OF WATER 24 MILES in Length...?? (ps. 35 miles is "Low Balling": (The 'Official' Max Effective Range is Classified ---- i.e. it's MUCH MUCH greater than 35 Miles!).

So Either..

A.  The NATO Sea Sparrow Exists,  OR...
B.  The Spinning-Ball Religion Exists.

BOTH can't be TRUE !!!   Savvy? 

Scripture: 

(Isaiah 40-22 ISV)  "He's the one who sits above the DISK OF THE EARTH, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He's the one who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in".

(Revelation 20:9) "And they went up on the BREADTH of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

"Breadth" = "Platos" Strong's Greek Definition G4114 --- from G4116 (plat'-oos)..: Spread out "FLAT".

The Passage (In English) should read: "And they went up on the Flat Earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

 

DOMED: 

1. How do you have a GAS PRESSURE (Atmospheric Pressure) WITHOUT a Container...."TO BEGIN WITH" ?? When...

"The "PRESSURE OF A GAS" is the force that the gas exerts on the WALLS OF IT'S CONTAINER". 
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/180pressure.html


Basically, explain how you can have a "Tire Pressure"... 

                      WITHOUT THE TIRE !!! :blink:

 

Scripture: 

(Genesis 1:6) "And God said, Let there be a FIRMAMENT in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."
(Genesis 1:7) "And God made the FIRMAMENT, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so."
(Genesis 1:8) "And God called the FIRMAMENT Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."
(Genesis 1:14) " And God said, Let there be lights IN the FIRMAMENT of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"

Firmament = Strong's #07549  //  eyqr  //  raqiya` //  raw-kee'-ah  //  

from 07554; TWOT - 2217a; n m 

AV - firmament 17; 17 
1) extended surface ("SOLID"), expanse, firmament 
1a) expanse (flat as base, support) 
1b) firmament (of vault of heaven supporting waters above) 
1b1) considered by Hebrews as SOLID and supporting 'waters' above.

Brown-Driver-Briggs:
רָקִיעַ noun masculineGenesis 1:6 extended surface, ("SOLID") expanse (as if beaten out; compare Job 37:18); — absolute ׳ר Ezekiel 1:22 +, construct ׳רְ Genesis 1:14 +; —ᵐ5 στερέωμα, ᵑ9 firmamentum, compare Syriac below √above; —
1 (flat) expanse (as if of ice, compare כְּעֵין הַקֶּרַח), as base, support (WklAltor. Forsch. iv. 347) Ezekiel 1:22,23,25(gloss ? compare Co Toy), Ezekiel 1:26 (supporting ׳י's throne). Hence (CoEzekiel 1:22)
2 the vault of heaven, or 'firmament,' regarded by Hebrews as SOLID, and supporting 'waters' above it.

 

Crystal Clear Logical Consistency and Scriptural "Pictures".

 

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also the 'ice walls' that keep us from falling off the edges of your flat earth. 

Straw Man Fallacy:  I never made that claim.

 

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Still waiting for proof that NASA fakes it's photos.

Apollo 8.PNG  Apollo 8 Fake.PNG

Apollo 11.PNG  Apollo 11 A Contrast Fake.PNG

 

How many more ya need?

 

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Still waiting for proof that all sciences are fairy tales.

Straw Man Fallacy:  I said the Pseudo-Sciences were Fairytales: astronomy, astrophysics, cosmology, paleontology, geology, anthropology, archaeology, evolutionary biology (lol), theoretical physics.  WHY?? Well...

Post One Formal Scientific Hypothesis EVER constructed in the entire history of any of these Pretenders...?

OR...

Show how you can have "Science" without Scientific Hypotheses...?  

Voila

 

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So far, in the time you've been on this site, you've never posted anything but your brand of junk science.

Generalized Sweeping Ipse Dixit Baseless 'bare' Assertion Fallacy.

 

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