Creepy skull shaped asteroid to cruise by Earth next year...again

[MorningGlory]

16 hours ago, 1to3 said:

Quote from MG

I  think the next asteroid that is going to hit us is the one mentioned in Revelation; Wormwood.

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The government is now throwing sulfur -the substance satan smells like and silver iodide flairs into our atmosphere.

Perhaps the "wormwood" will be the result coming out from our own atmosphere that we are now polluting through,  by the means of Geo-engenering.

 

Interesting  presentation on you tube on the subject:

Geoengineering:The real climate change threat

 

Asteroids are not affected by our atmosphere at all.  At least not before they enter it and heat up.

[1to3]

8 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

I think the next asteroid that is going to hit us is the one mentioned in Revelation; Wormwood

so I checked into the Holy bible and it reads:

Revelation 8:11

…10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter like wormwood oil, and many people died from the bitter waters. 12Then the fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck. A third of the stars were darkened, a third of the day was without light, and a third of the night as well.…

Is a star  an asteroid ? a piece of a star  IDK 

 

if a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck., that would be a big impact on how the health of the earth would be?

In a spinning ball format how would the earth continue to spin in orbit with a 1/3 affected  sun and moon?

 

 

 

looking it up i found

What are stars made of?

Stars are made of very hot gas. This gas is mostly hydrogen and helium, which are the two lightest elements. Stars shine by burning hydrogen into helium in their cores, and later in their lives create heavier elements. Most stars have small amounts of heavier elements like carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and iron, which were created by stars that existed before them. After a star runs out of fuel, it ejects much of its material back into space. New stars are formed from this material. So the material in stars is recycled.

 

If there truly was a firmament like it says in genesis ch1, and the stars being under the firmament , then yes stars can fall and damage either the sun moon or earth, but the earth will continue to be.

So if  our earth is protected by a firmament, and water is above the firmament, then the only place a star could fall from is from under the firmament. the earth would continue to be, just not optimally.

but

And with a spinning ball format, if t1/3 of the sun and the moon gets struck, could that not have a major impact as to how the earth spins?

 

What would happen if the Earth stopped spinning?

"If the Earth stopped spinning suddenly, the atmosphere would still be in motion with the Earth's original 1100 mile per hour rotation speed at the equator. All of the land masses would be scoured clean of anything not attached to bedrock. This means rocks, topsoil, trees, buildings, your pet dog, and so on, would be swept away into the atmosphere. "

 

Perhaps brother Enoch2021 can help us on that?

 

 

Genesis 1New King James Version (NKJV)

The History of Creation

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. ² The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was^[a] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

³ Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. ⁴ And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. ⁵ God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

⁶ Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” ⁷ Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. ⁸ And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

⁹ Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. ¹⁰ And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good.

¹¹ Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. ¹² And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. ¹³ So the evening and the morning were the third day.

¹⁴ Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; ¹⁵ and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. ¹⁶ Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also . ¹⁷ God set them  in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, ¹⁸ and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. ¹⁹ So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 3, 2018 by 1to3

[Enoch2021]

23 hours ago, other one said:

https://pds.nasa.gov/

1.  Elephant Hurling Fallacy. So...

2.  What is your point?

 

regards

[MorningGlory]

1 hour ago, Enoch2021 said:

1.  Elephant Hurling Fallacy. So...

2.  What is your point?

 

regards

Dismissing facts won't change them, Enoch.

[Enoch2021]

18 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Dismissing facts won't change them, Enoch.

This:  https://pds.nasa.gov/ isn't a Fact, it's a "Link".  And in this specific case, it's an Elephant Hurling Fallacy...

Elephant Hurling (Fallacy):  a debate tactic in which a debater will refer to a large body of evidence which supposedly supports the debater's arguments, but without demonstrating that the evidence does indeed support the argument.
http://www.astorehouseofknowledge.info/w/Elephant_hurling

 

regards

[MorningGlory]

14 minutes ago, Enoch2021 said:

This:  https://pds.nasa.gov/ isn't a Fact, it's a "Link".  And in this specific case, it's an Elephant Hurling Fallacy...

Elephant Hurling (Fallacy):  a debate tactic in which a debater will refer to a large body of evidence which supposedly supports the debater's arguments, but without demonstrating that the evidence does indeed support the argument.
http://www.astorehouseofknowledge.info/w/Elephant_hurling

 

regards

Inappropriate definition.  OO didn't MAKE any arguments.

[MorningGlory]

16 hours ago, 1to3 said:

so I checked into the Holy bible and it reads:

Revelation 8:11

…10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter like wormwood oil, and many people died from the bitter waters. 12Then the fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck. A third of the stars were darkened, a third of the day was without light, and a third of the night as well.…

Is a star  an asteroid ? a piece of a star  IDK 

 

if a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck., that would be a big impact on how the health of the earth would be?

In a spinning ball format how would the earth continue to spin in orbit with a 1/3 affected  sun and moon?

 

 

 

looking it up i found

What are stars made of?

Stars are made of very hot gas. This gas is mostly hydrogen and helium, which are the two lightest elements. Stars shine by burning hydrogen into helium in their cores, and later in their lives create heavier elements. Most stars have small amounts of heavier elements like carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and iron, which were created by stars that existed before them. After a star runs out of fuel, it ejects much of its material back into space. New stars are formed from this material. So the material in stars is recycled.

 

If there truly was a firmament like it says in genesis ch1, and the stars being under the firmament , then yes stars can fall and damage either the sun moon or earth, but the earth will continue to be.

So if  our earth is protected by a firmament, and water is above the firmament, then the only place a star could fall from is from under the firmament. the earth would continue to be, just not optimally.

but

And with a spinning ball format, if t1/3 of the sun and the moon gets struck, could that not have a major impact as to how the earth spins?

 

What would happen if the Earth stopped spinning?

"If the Earth stopped spinning suddenly, the atmosphere would still be in motion with the Earth's original 1100 mile per hour rotation speed at the equator. All of the land masses would be scoured clean of anything not attached to bedrock. This means rocks, topsoil, trees, buildings, your pet dog, and so on, would be swept away into the atmosphere. "

 

Perhaps brother Enoch2021 can help us on that?

 

 

Genesis 1New King James Version (NKJV)

The History of Creation

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. ² The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was^[a] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

³ Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. ⁴ And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. ⁵ God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

⁶ Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” ⁷ Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. ⁸ And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

⁹ Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. ¹⁰ And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good.

¹¹ Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. ¹² And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. ¹³ So the evening and the morning were the third day.

¹⁴ Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; ¹⁵ and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. ¹⁶ Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also . ¹⁷ God set them  in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, ¹⁸ and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. ¹⁹ So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

 

 

 

 

 

No, an asteroid isn't a star; they are believed to be leftovers from the creation of the universe or maybe destroyed planets. The writers of the Bible described a flaming star but, as we know, an asteroid entering the atmosphere will heat up and burn thus appearing as a flaming star.  As for whether the Earth would continue to spin if hit by an asteroid of great size?  I don't know but we've been hit by them before and the world was not destroyed and didn't stop spinning otherwise we wouldn't be here.  The one that hit the Yucatan Peninsula millions of years ago is said to have been six miles in diameter, judging by the crater it made.

[1to3]

1 hour ago, MorningGlory said:

As for whether the Earth would continue to spin if hit by an asteroid of great size?  I don't know but we've been hit by them before and the world was not destroyed and didn't stop spinning otherwise we wouldn't be here. 

Hello Mg,           ok perhaps... for the above mentioned,

However i if we look at revelations in the place they mention: Wormwood the asteroid you believe this skull looking asteroid is?

 

now you say that asteroids hit the earth before and nothing really had happened. OK.

But if we are to take it that this skull asteroid is in fact:  wormwood , then  not only the earth will be hit,, but  !/3 of the sun and 1/3the moon and 1/3 of the stars are struck.   that is a pretty big impact.

My question was if this asteroid not only hits the earth but also 1/3 of the sun and moon, what impact could that possibly have on the rotation of a globe earth?  As from the globe earth perspective the earth is dependent on the sun and moon for being able to spin and remain in  proper dynamic rotation.  So my question is if 1/3 of the sun  and moon get damaged respectively, that is quite serious in terms that it could possible effect the rotation of the earth if we are talking about a globe model earth and its dynamics in relation to the sun and moon.

of course on a flat model earth the earth would  not be as greatly effected as the globe model because it was created before the sun and moon, thus their is no force from the sun or moon that would be as damaging as the globe earth model would .: All of the land masses would be scoured clean of anything not attached to bedrock.

ref:

What would happen if the Earth stopped spinning?

"If the Earth stopped spinning suddenly, the atmosphere would still be in motion with the Earth's original 1100 mile per hour rotation speed at the equator. All of the land masses would be scoured clean of anything not attached to bedrock. This means rocks, topsoil, trees, buildings, your pet dog, and so on, would be swept away into the atmosphere. "

 

(Just a reference to the bible passage that mentions wormwood)

Revelation 8:11

…10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter like wormwood oil, and many people died from the bitter waters. 12Then the fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck. A third of the stars were darkened, a third of the day was without light, and a third of the night as well.…

[MorningGlory]

2 hours ago, 1to3 said:

Hello Mg,           ok perhaps... for the above mentioned,

However i if we look at revelations in the place they mention: Wormwood the asteroid you believe this skull looking asteroid is?

 

now you say that asteroids hit the earth before and nothing really had happened. OK.

But if we are to take it that this skull asteroid is in fact:  wormwood , then  not only the earth will be hit,, but  !/3 of the sun and 1/3the moon and 1/3 of the stars are struck.   that is a pretty big impact.

My question was if this asteroid not only hits the earth but also 1/3 of the sun and moon, what impact could that possibly have on the rotation of a globe earth?  As from the globe earth perspective the earth is dependent on the sun and moon for being able to spin and remain in  proper dynamic rotation.  So my question is if 1/3 of the sun  and moon get damaged respectively, that is quite serious in terms that it could possible effect the rotation of the earth if we are talking about a globe model earth and its dynamics in relation to the sun and moon.

of course on a flat model earth the earth would  not be as greatly effected as the globe model because it was created before the sun and moon, thus their is no force from the sun or moon that would be as damaging as the globe earth model would .: All of the land masses would be scoured clean of anything not attached to bedrock.

ref:

What would happen if the Earth stopped spinning?

"If the Earth stopped spinning suddenly, the atmosphere would still be in motion with the Earth's original 1100 mile per hour rotation speed at the equator. All of the land masses would be scoured clean of anything not attached to bedrock. This means rocks, topsoil, trees, buildings, your pet dog, and so on, would be swept away into the atmosphere. "

 

(Just a reference to the bible passage that mentions wormwood)

Revelation 8:11

…10Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter like wormwood oil, and many people died from the bitter waters. 12Then the fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun and moon and stars were struck. A third of the stars were darkened, a third of the day was without light, and a third of the night as well.…

I don't believe that this skull shaped asteroid is the Wormwood in Revelation.  I think there's a much bigger asteroid out there but it's all conjecture at this point.  If an asteroid the size of the one that hit the Yucatan hits the Earth it would raise millions of tons of debris.  Much like a massive volcanic eruption that debris would go into the atmosphere and block out the sun's rays for years.  How God is going to make this happen is up to Him but it IS going to happen along with all the other things mentioned in Revelation.  Regardless of how He does it...it's going to be hell on Earth when He does.  It's a good thing to think about this stuff now, although we may not see it in our lifetimes, because we need to be ready, to be right with God and not worry too much about it because there is really nothing we can do to prevent it.

[Enoch2021]

On 1/3/2018 at 3:54 PM, MorningGlory said:

As for whether the Earth would continue to spin if hit by an asteroid of great size?  I don't know but we've been hit by them before and the world was not destroyed and didn't stop spinning otherwise we wouldn't be here. " 

  The Earth doesn't "Spin"...

 

Not "Spinning":

For the Coriolis Effect to Exist, you MUST HAVE (i.e., the "Necessary Conditions"): 1. Two differing Frames of Reference (One Rotating Coordinate System (Non-Inertial) --- The Earth  and One Non-Rotating Coordinate System (Inertial)-- The Atmosphere ...and anything in it)...

"CC.12 The Coriolis Effect:

When set in motion, freely moving objects, including AIR [Atmosphere] and WATER masses [Clouds/Water Vapor], move in straight paths while the Earth continues to

                                                                                 ROTATE INDEPENDENTLY.

Because freely moving objects ARE NOT carried with the Earth as it Rotates, they are subject to an apparent deflection called the “Coriolis effect.” To an observer rotating with the Earth, freely moving objects that travel in a straight line appear to travel in a curved path on the Earth."

Segar, Douglas A; Introduction to Ocean Sciences, 2nd Edition: Critical Concept Reminders -- CC.12 The Coriolis Effect (pp. 313, 314, 323, 324), ISBN: 978-0-393-92629-3, 2007.

http://www.wwnorton.com/college/geo/oceansci/cc/cc12.html

 

In other words, anything not "Tethered" to the Earth is 'Freely Moving'.

2. The Object in question not Physically Attached to the Rotating Coordinate System appears to deflect (i.e., Moves Independently of the Rotating Coordinate System) from the vantage point anywhere on the rotating coordinate system -- aka: the 'Coriolis Effect'.

So, if the Coriolis Effect Exists (with Respect to the Earth), then a Flight from Charlotte North Carolina to LA (Non-Stop) traveling @ 500 mph (Air Speed) --- with both locations roughly 35th degree N Latitude, (i.e., both 'allegedly' spinning @ 860 mph ) should be ~ *1.5 hours!!* (But it's ~ *4.5 hrs!!*)

Charlotte to LA Flight: Air Speed 500 mph. Ground Speed: 500 mph + 860 mph "Alleged" rotation speed = 1360 mph.

So in my example:

1. Two differing Frames of Reference: (Earth and Atmosphere -- and everything in it) 2. The Plane in the Atmosphere is "Freely Moving" (not attached) to the Rotating Coordinate System and is flying in a straight path. In other words, Based on the Law of Non-Contradiction each (The Coriolis Effect and the Charlotte Flight at 1.5 hours) are either: Both TRUE or Both FALSE.

The Flight is most assuredly FALSE!! 

In conclusion, the Earth is *NOT* "Spinning"; ERGO..."The Ball" goes by way of the DoDo Bird or you're a Stationary Ball Geo-Centrist. Voila.

The only way the above can be refuted is if you're of the position that the Atmosphere 'spins' with the Earth. So then:

1. Please explain how the Coriolis Effect can EXIST when the NECESSARY CONDITIONS for it to EXIST are Two Differing Coordinate Systems (Reference Frames) -- One Rotating --"Earth" and One Non-Rotating-- the "Atmosphere" and everything in it...?

2. Show the Experiment where 'Gases'/Gas rotate in Lock-Step with a Rotating Solid Body just 5 cm above the surface, then provide the mechanism....?

3. Please explain "EAST/North/South" Surface Winds...?  

(Bonus Question: How you can have different wind speeds and directions simultaneously at differing elevations of the atmosphere while the atmosphere is collectively 'spinning' East, in Unison...?)

btw, These are Contradictory Statements:

1. The Atmosphere 'spins' in Lock-Step with the Earth.

2. The Existence of "EAST/North/South" Surface Winds.

Which do you think is FALSE?

MOREOVER, following the 'yarn'... Every Cubic Nanometer of atmosphere traveling horizontally from the equator to the center of rotationMUST HAVE differing Tangential Speeds; and every Cubic Nanometer of atmosphere rising in elevation from each respective horizontal Cubic Nanometer of atmosphere MUST HAVE differing Tangential Speeds (In fact, the higher the elevation... the faster they'll need to travel to keep up !!); and all of this rolling along at differing speeds... in Unison, EAST?? 

This is so far beyond Preposterous Ludicrousness Absurdity, 'evolution' (whatever that is??) and Multiverses... are BLUSHING!!

AND, does anyone know how far up this 'Increasing Speed' Rope-A-Dope Fairytale Spinning Atmosphere ENDS?? I'd like to see that...it'll give a Whole New Meaning to Guillotine "WIND SHEAR"!! Goodness Gracious People.  

ps. Are the Gas Molecules attached to each other by: Velcro?? Glue?? Pixie Dust?? Other?? And where is the energy coming from for the continuous "Shot in the Arm" injections needed to keep each successive Cubic Nanometer of atmosphere higher elevation brethren in tow?

Alice in Wonderland is more tenable than the "Spinning-Ball" religion.

 

And God has already established the Earth is Stationary:

Non-Spinning "Immovable":

 

(1 Chronicles 16:30) "Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be NOT-MOVED."

 

(Psalms 93:1) "The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it CANNOT BE MOVED."

 

(Psalms 96:10) "Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall NOT BE MOVED: he shall judge the people righteously."

 

(Joshua 10:12) "Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon."  

 

If it was the Earth that was moving, Why didn't Joshua say: "EARTH STAND STILL" ??

 

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