Mishael Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: What i said was, do you agree not all of Bible is inspired by God as some are records of traditions of bronze age. I am sure the question is quite clear The Bible is the inspired word of God that records history. The answer is quite clear so please stop playing games. You've not answered a single of my questions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTwo Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 51 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: Shias lie not Muslims. Shias are like your Catholics which go against the Quran( for Catholics Bible). No point in discussing as this will not go anywhere. Let's stick to our personal conversation for now. So Shias are not Muslims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Shias are Muslims they believe in the shadda la ilah ila Allah wa Muhammed rasul Allah, and according to Mohammed himself anyone who says these words is a Muslim. Funny how you Muslims try to declare each other as nonbelievers when you see how you both contradict each other, but both Shias and Sunnis are Muslims, the fault is in your faith which is contradictory not with each other. Edited April 20, 2018 by Mishael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 Catholics are Christians they don't go against the Bible, they just have differing opinions on traditions with Protestants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 44 minutes ago, GeorgeTwo said: So Shias are not Muslims? There are some Shias who are believed as Muslims but most of them are not. They worship Ali the son in law of Muhammad. lying is a Shia origin with no basis in Quran/hadith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, Mishael said: Catholics are Christians they don't go against the Bible, they just have differing opinions on traditions with Protestants. Don't they do idol worship which is forbidden in bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeTwo Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: There are some Shias who are believed as Muslims but most of them are not. They worship Ali the son in law of Muhammad. lying is a Shia origin with no basis in Quran/hadith Show me where they worship Ali. Also, plenty of Sunnis have lied to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, OneGodBeliever said: Don't they do idol worship which is forbidden in bible? Its not idolatry since we don't believe the statues and icons are capable of doing anything on their own. Shias are not praying to Ali they ask Ali to pray for them, the proof that both Sunnis and Shias can't get their Tawhid defined in a single way, both Sunnis and Shias will both find Hadiths to back up each of their beliefs. Edited April 20, 2018 by Mishael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, GeorgeTwo said: Show me where they worship Ali. Also, plenty of Sunnis have lied to me. The worship of Ali means they call for Ali's help instead of Allah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneGodBeliever Posted April 20, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 23 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mishael said: Its not idolatry since we don't believe the statues and icons are capable of doing anything on their own. Shias are not praying to Ali they ask Ali to pray for them, the proof that both Sunnis and Shias can't get their Tawhid defined in a single way, both Sunnis and Shias will both find Hadiths to back up each of their beliefs. So do Catholics and protestants but there is only one truth, both can't be right. So leave Shias to us and let's continue our discussion. It's strictly forbidden to makes images of God in bible which Catholics do. What they can do or cannot is between you and the catholic Edited April 20, 2018 by OneGodBeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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