modern meanings of the word "JEW"

[Dan_79]

2 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Says what? Jesus called those Jews that opposed Him as children of the devil, but Ephesians says the same about the Gentiles.

Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.
(Rev 3:9)
 

Here it is referring to the same.

Ok so why does Paul go after the "Jews that say they are Jews" and not to the lost sheep which Jesus instructed?

[Dan_79]

4 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Context should tell you. Which verse?

This makes no sense to help the lost understand scripture though hence the OP asks why do people still need to ask?

If the "context" is Judahite why not just say so, why leave it to chance that it will not be asked (every time all od the time).

If I have to ask it is because it is not clear, not the other way around.

[Dan_79]

5 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I'm going to have to ask you for the Scriptural reference. It is Jesus that said that through John..."Jews that say they are Jews, but are not".

Rev 2.9

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5 minutes ago, Dan_79 said:

This makes no sense to help the lost understand scripture though hence the OP asks why do people still need to ask?

If the "context" is Judahite why not just say so, why leave it to chance that it will not be asked (every time all od the time).

If I have to ask it is because it is not clear, not the other way around.

Always keep in mind when dealing with the Holy Bible... All true understanding of it comes via the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.. 

[Dan_79]

6 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Context makes clear because of the various uses of the word Jew.

But each context is using a generalization. Namely "Jew" which can and does draw from some bottomless pit of synonyms to be offered. They cannot ALL be correct as I mentioned in the OP some are at variance or contradictory.

The English language does not get full use in the world of generalizations and which is what has held countless people back I should imagine.

Edited May 1, 2018 by Dan_79

[Dan_79]

10 minutes ago, Yowm said:

“‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. (Rev 2:9)
 

These are most likely those leaders who vehemently oppose the Gospel message. They may be in the line of Jacob but have not the faith of Abraham. Their opposition reveals which camp they are in.

I am still confused, how does God make a covenant with his people and not keep this promise due to the lack of faith on his childrens part?

[Dan_79]

Just now, Dan_79 said:

I am still confused, how does God make a covenant with his people and not keep this promise due to the lack of faith on his childrens part?

I dont want to go off topic which is happening slowly

[Dan_79]

11 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Sure it is general, all the more you need context.

If I said what does the word 'bear' mean? You would want to know the context to give a definition.

Where Israelite would suffice and give clarity of context it isnt as the generalization gets presidence. Why should a reader need to reconstruct a verse unnessessarily?

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4 minutes ago, Dan_79 said:

I am still confused, how does God make a covenant with his people and not keep this promise due to the lack of faith on his childrens part?

A covenant is a contract between two parties..

The OT was a covenant between the descendants of Israel and God..

A Contract once broken by one of the parties can be canceled..

The terms of the Old Covenant where broken by the Jewish people..

 

A new Contract was then created By God through the LORD Jesus Christ..

Jews and gentiles are now free to put their names onto the New Covenant / contract..

[Dan_79]

3 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I have to go for now.

Ok.

Thanks for your input