Alan Hales Posted September 2, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 406 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 102 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/14/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, listener24 said: Brother, the Lord prayer talks exactly about that heavenly Kingdom that Jesus will set at His Return, when He will deliver us from the evil one, by separating the goats from the sheep, that is why is not "obsolete". In fact He says "our Father in HEAVEN..THY Kingdom Come" This is the same cry expressed in Revelation (notoriously a book about end times), about the true believers, especially in the last days: The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let the one who hears say, "Come!" He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. Jesus taught the Lord prayer, He didn't say "pray this prayer only from year 30 A.D. to year 33 A.D. then stop praying this because of the Pentecost", this is the invention of someone who told you this. The Kingdom of God has already come, The Kingdom that Jesus meant in the Our Father, Jesus said some of those will be alive when the Kingdom comes, But they are ALL dead now, So either Jesus was telling lies, or He wasn't talking about the coming Kingdom that's in our future. If you read the "Our Father", [Which ISN'T The Lord's pray, Because that's found in Jn 17], You'll see that Jesus is always talking about this lifetime. Such as, "Thy will be done ON EARTH", "Give us THIS DAY". "Forgive us, [There will be nothing to forgive in the coming Kingdom]" "Lead us not into temptation , [There is nothing to tempt us in the coming Kingdom]. " Deliver us from evil, [There is no evil in the coming Kingdom]". "The Kingdom, power and glory, For EVER and EVER", Note the words "For ever and ever", NOT just the coming Kingdom. Forever started at that time... NO...NO.. Jesus was telling His disciples to pray for things in this lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.56 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 12:47 PM, hayleyv048 said: I have no idea how to pray or what it entails. Hayley Prayer is to converse with the Lord God Trinity. Jesus died to give us eternal life, and to break down the wall of separation between us and God, “And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit.At that moment the curtain in the sanctuary of the Temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. The earth shook, rocks split apart,” (Matthew 28:50-51), “Therefore, brethren, since we have full freedom andconfidence to enter into the [Holy of] Holies [by the power and virtue] in the blood of Jesus,” (Hebrews 10:19) and, “Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence, and you are holy and blameless as you stand before him without a single fault.” (Colossians 1:22). God the Trinity wants to spend time with you and this is prayer, when you talk to him and are quiet to listen to His voice (which will never contradict Scripture, so we must know it which is God breathed 2 Timothy 3:16). God does on cross to remove the separation between Hom and his children and so that we can be with Him forever; obviously He wants to have a relationship, to know Him (Philippians 3:8) which is in the Greek Ginosko or Epignosko which means to know in personal and intone relationship. Praying is how we spiritual connect and talk to God and hear from God; like a cellphone except much deeper, you can see God in prayer, hear Him, and talk to Him as if he was in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedirection Posted September 6, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 93 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 62 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/11/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2018 The appendix of the love dare book has really great advice on how to pray, what blocks it, and what unlocks it. Take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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