Gerioke Posted June 3, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Where in prophesy does it say that church would be in big extravagant buildings or that we would be worshipping with electric guitars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahavah Posted June 3, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/13/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 3, 2005 In the third world, they may think of a church as a cave, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok..Tell me..What is A church anyway? Is is a building or a people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted June 3, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted June 3, 2005 A church is a gathering of believers, be it in a building, cave or in an open field. Does Jesus care if they are in caves? I think not, as long as they are doing the will of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahavah Posted June 3, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/13/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 3, 2005 A church is a gathering of believers, be it in a building, cave or in an open field. Does Jesus care if they are in caves? I think not, as long as they are doing the will of God. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanctyfied Posted June 4, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 95 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2005 Ok my mistake, sorry I glanced at the article again and realized it wasnt about islam So try to not look at the other text and judge me. Pleeeaase. It is awesome the third world countrys are accepting Jesus. But, I still don't understand why you think miracles are dorment here in America. They are not you just have to be where Jesus is moving. And if you can't do that, then do it yourself. Jesus gave us all different gifts to use. Gerioke Where in the Bible does it say we can't worship Him in Big buildings. And where does it say not to worship Him with Electric Guitars. The kids nowadays don't like the old organs, and a bunch of people who can't sing on key. They will by no means ever listen to it, let alone join a church like that. The entire world has changed since the 50's We are to go out and preach the Gospel to where? (All the World). The message is still the same. The tools we use are a little different. God has never changed, and yet He is Everchanging. Look at it this way there ears are deaf to the old ways. So throw it in an amplifier so they can Hear that God Loves them. Sanctyfieds Home page. Click on this link. Goto to the second page. then goto the CD site. You can hear The Band I'm in Called Sanctyfied. at least 2 minutes of each song. This is what God has called me to do. And the results of seeing people get saved is amazing. It is my Ministry. I wouldn't be doing all this if God wasn't incharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolineS Posted June 4, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 414 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/15/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2005 I read this article on WND a short time ago. I think it does fit into Bible prophecy, I just haven't decided how. I think it can be looked at two different ways. "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." Matt. 24:24. We know that in the end times apostasy will increase greatly. There will be a great falling away from true doctrine and faith in Jesus Christ. Satan and his angels will masquerade as angels of light and perform signs and miracles. I believe there will be healings, maybe even resurrections of the dead. Could this be the beginning?? Another possibility is that Christ is calling christians back to the Bible, to true doctrine not found in mainline churches of Catholics and Protestants. I think people are searching for truth, turning back to the Bible and trying to follow Christ as the apostles did. "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me." John 10:16. "And I heard another voice from heaven saying, 'Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.'" Rev. 18:4 I think I would have to know more about this church and their beliefs. I would have to see if they line up with the Bible. So I think this movement definitely fits into the end times, but how I am not sure. In Christ, CarolineS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted June 4, 2005 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Quote sanctyfied, The kids nowadays don't like the old organs, and a bunch of people who can't sing on key. They will by no means ever listen to it, let alone join a church like that So you are saying the music is just a gimmick to get the young ones to come to church. Funny,..I thought people went to church to give thanks to the Lord and to glorify His mighty works and name. Your loud music might draw the young ones for a rage, but it's driving the old ones who worship God, and not music, away. I could live without music, but I couldn't live without God. But we have had plenty of threads about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanctyfied Posted June 4, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 95 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2005 Hi eric, We all worship God. And believe it or Not The old ones love the Worship just as much. I have alot of the older people come to me saying they love the new music. So I don't quite get what you are saying. It's all about Worship not a rage. as a musician myself. When someone goes off key. It's like scratching nails on a chalkboard to me. It shoots straight down my spine. If you love the old stuff there is nothing wrong with that. If you love the new stuff there is nothing wrong with that. God puts people where He wants them. Not where you want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted June 4, 2005 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Hey, that's okay brother, You rock and roll your way to heaven. I'll get there without it. Twent to thirty thousand people in China alone are coming to Christ and risking life and limd in uderground houses to get to know Jesus, with no music. If the same amount. per capita, in Nth America, were to do the same or any other western country for that matter, there would'nt be enough christian facilities to contain them and train them. There is nothing wrong with good old gospel songs and what if someone sings a bit off key Man put drums and guitars in church not God. God sent His son on a donkey to preach the gospel not rock and rollers driving a SUV. cheers, e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanctyfied Posted June 4, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 95 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/31/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2005 I agree Good ole gospel songs are awesome. I also love the new. ( As Long as the Annointing is there ) It is still true Worship Unto God. As He says In Psalms 33:3 3 Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise. 4 For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth. Psalms 40:3 3 And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD. Psalms 96 1 O sing unto the LORD a new song: sing unto the LORD, all the earth. 2 Sing unto the LORD, bless his name; show forth his salvation from day to day. One of my favorites. Psalms 144 9 I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee. 10 strings Guitar and Bass = 10 among many others. Yes God has blessed this country. Beyond belief. We still have that right. To Worship God and as loud as we want to. I will sing an praise Him with everything I have in me. For what He has saved me from is much. The Pharises didn't like the crowed Prasing Jesus while He sat on that donkey either. He said "40And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out." Praise God for what He is doing around the entire world. Prophecy is being fullfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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