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1 hour ago, Mike Mclees said:

Their is no 7 yr tribulation because the church has been in tribulation as Jesus said there would be since the church began until this very day. Jesus confirms Daniel that a 7yr peace will be made but the peace will be broken in the last 3 1/2 years called great tribulation as Jesus said in Matt 24. This is of course be the time of the Antichrist rule and will try to destroy all believers in Christ . This is also confirmed in Daniel 7:25. There is nowhere in scripture that the church escape the period of the antichrist. Read also Rev 15 where the saints  suffered the 3 1/2 yr "Great Tribulation"! 

They are being celibrated but notice no mention of special saints that did not have to suffer.   Hmmm strange

I tend to agree with some of what you say. For an Israeli, tribulation was the exile and continued. Pentecost addressed that, but the Rabbis probably did not notice. We have to see all this from an Israeli point of view else we miss so much. So it is with the various versions of the Tanach. One has to see it from their view point to get it. 70 Ad was singularly the most terrible thing imaginable for an Israeli. They would have called it a 'great tribulation'. If you read Josephus' account you might see the gravity of it all from an Hebrew perspective. Now they are completely scattered and only since 1948 has that been addressed on a physical level. So to an Israeli the tribulation continues until all tribes are united. Some of our 'great theologians' said that 1948 was not possible. Many actually spoke out against Israel as this was 'the thing to do' in some circles. It led eventually to the holocaust. Make a note of these, and have nothing to do with them.

So when we want to superimpose our modern western take on anything, as if the prophets were speaking to us, we will go very far afield from the person that wrote it and the people that it was written to primarily.

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4 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

Their is no 7 yr tribulation because the church has been in tribulation as Jesus said there would be since the church began until this very day. Jesus confirms Daniel that a 7yr peace will be made but the peace will be broken in the last 3 1/2 years called great tribulation as Jesus said in Matt 24. This is of course be the time of the Antichrist rule and will try to destroy all believers in Christ . This is also confirmed in Daniel 7:25. There is nowhere in scripture that the church escape the period of the antichrist. Read also Rev 15 where the saints  suffered the 3 1/2 yr "Great Tribulation"! 

They are being celibrated but notice no mention of special saints that did not have to suffer.   Hmmm strange

Suit yourself

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On 8/24/2019 at 1:20 AM, Jersleem said:

I wants to know how to be ready for tribulation ? how it will start and signs and symptoms before rapture.

I have heard alot of different doctorins but really wants to know properly  in chronological oder. I come accross alot of time regarding this topic.

Thanks

The tribulation does not come before the rapture.

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