JohnD Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) The recent hoopla about Biden is the device of the Socialist Wing of the DNC (which is where the leak about Trump's inquiries came from) to remove the old man from the ticket and to make Elizabeth Warren the front runner to get the "just because she's a woman" vote. Edited September 22, 2019 by JohnD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted September 22, 2019 57 minutes ago, JohnD said: The recent hoopla about Biden is the device of the Socialist Wing of the DNC (which is where the leak about Trump's inquiries came from) to remove the old man from the ticket and to make Elizabeth Warren the front runner to get the "just because she's a woman" vote. It's sad how people will twist the truth when they crave power. You'd think Donald Trump was the devil himself. Wonder how much infighting we'll see in the Democratic party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said: It's sad how people will twist the truth when they crave power. You'd think Donald Trump was the devil himself. Wonder how much infighting we'll see in the Democratic party. Lots. Pelosi lost control because the party is split. The socialists are intensely determined and won;t back down. This is why they NEED the votes of people who only see gender as the reason to vote for Warren. Coupled with the trump haters, it might not be the landslide victory for Trump that we hope for. ESPECIALLY if those who voted for him in 2016 "went to sleep" as conservatives and Christians are notorious for doing. Wake up when the world is about to end... no sooner... then go back to sleep until the next brink of Armageddon. {SIGH} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 If I were a woman, I would be ashamed that Hillary or Warren were the BEST any party could come up with to represent women. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unworthyservant Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 645 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 298 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 22, 2019 That's why I don't get involved in the political mess. Look at your comments and then tell me how are you ever going to be able to minister to a Socialist (Yes God loves them, too) if that person had seen this thread? I figure either side I come down on I have just alienated half the population because political views are so volatile these days. So, my only thought on the matter is think "Is it worth alienating those lost souls who may hold an opinion opposite mine?" before you state controversial political opinions. If you feel stronger about the opinions than the risk then by all means have at it but "As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord" and I won't involve myself in taking hard stands on anything that could affect my testimony with anyone who might not agree with an opinion that has nothing to do with Salvation or living for the Lord. I just think it's a dangerous slope that I'm not willing to compromise my Testimony for. I think that when Christ said "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesars and unto God that which is Gods" he was talking about much more than the tax (or tribute) in question. That said, shouldn't this thread be in the Politics section where folks who like to discuss such stuff hang out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unworthyservant Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 645 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 298 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, JohnD said: ESPECIALLY if those who voted for him in 2016 "went to sleep" as conservatives and Christians are notorious for doing. Just curious, you lump conservative and Christian in the same statement. What's the correlation there? Is it that conservatives are Christians or are Christians supposed to be conservatives? I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 907 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,650 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,833 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, unworthyservant said: Just curious, you lump conservative and Christian in the same statement. What's the correlation there? Is it that conservatives are Christians or are Christians supposed to be conservatives? I don't understand. Uh... read the text. I SAID... Conservatives AND Christians. IF I meant they were one and the same I would have said so. Are you just trolling for an argument???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.79 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 hours ago, JohnD said: The recent hoopla about Biden is the device of the Socialist Wing of the DNC (which is where the leak about Trump's inquiries came from) to remove the old man from the ticket and to make Elizabeth Warren the front runner to get the "just because she's a woman" vote. I ignore politics. It is more peaceful that way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unworthyservant Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 645 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 298 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, JohnD said: Uh... read the text. I SAID... Conservatives AND Christians. IF I meant they were one and the same I would have said so. Are you just trolling for an argument???? Not at all. I wish to quell all political argument among Christians! That's why I take no public stand on politics in general because just as when you say "conservatives and Christians" do or should do this or that there's some presumption of correlation (just by the fact that they are seen together) that could be insinuated even if not actually intended. Ditto if someone said the exact words but inserted "liberal" or "socialist" and Christians do or should do but it's going to be the other side that could take umbrage. So, either way by inclusion or exclusion, partisan political stands are so controversial these days (with both sides crying God is on our side) and since I don't believe that God supports any political party (unless it's for His reasons that we can never know) it just hurts me when I see Christians taking partisan stands on these issues to the possible detriment of their testimony with those of an opposite political view. I would hate to think that someone would have reason to dismiss my testimony with either "How can you be a Christian and a Republican?" or "How can you be a Christian and a Democrat?"logic. Neither of which I personally believe have much validity but it's just something I prefer not to have to explain in order to share the Gospel with ANYONE of any party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unworthyservant Posted September 22, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 645 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 298 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, missmuffet said: I ignore politics. It is more peaceful that way. Hallelujah! I try to do the same but I still take fire from both sides when I try and urge others to refrain from such partisan political discussions in order to not taint the impression of their testimony with those who have conflicting political views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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